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Yahoo, Tattoos, and tOSU (1-year bowl ban, 82 scholly limit for 3 years)

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Part of me thinks that the NCAA considers this incessant waiting to be an unwritten part of their punishment. They know better than anyone that football, and especially recruiting, is a 12 month business, as are all associated decisions like hiring and firing coaches, so I think they may intentionally drag their feet to make the teams wait so they can't do things on their terms. Kind of like highway patrol when they pull you over for speeding (presume you are in a hurry) and then sit in their car for 10-15 minutes "checking your license in the computer" (which likely takes 10 seconds)...
 
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3074326;2032762; said:
God damn has the last year made me very jaded towards college football. :(

I really had no reaction to hearing this stuff from today. Sad.
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I'm the same way. I've watched NCAA football for most of my life over the NFL but the last few years have really changed that. This stuff is just rediculous.
 
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Bucklion;2032782; said:
Part of me thinks that the NCAA considers this incessant waiting to be an unwritten part of their punishment. They know better than anyone that football, and especially recruiting, is a 12 month business, as are all associated decisions like hiring and firing coaches, so I think they may intentionally drag their feet to make the teams wait so they can't do things on their terms. Kind of like highway patrol when they pull you over for speeding (presume you are in a hurry) and then sit in their car for 10-15 minutes "checking your license in the computer" (which likely takes 10 seconds)...
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Sometimes I think it's true. I realize the people in Indy oversee every school under their umbrella (it isn't that big of a place, I've made several trips to White River Park to take pictures), but it seems like they could really move a hell of a lot faster than they usually do. Sometimes I think most of those offices are vacant anyway when I'm down there.
 
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BB73;2032781; said:
It sucks that the ruling won't come out until after the 2011 postseason.
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how much more time could they possibly need? it is insane how long these things take to come out...so let me guess that the NCAA's ruling on Miami will come out sometime in 2015
 
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I don't care who reported the violations. If we hid the violations we should be reamed like USC. We won't be because we self-reported. But, I'd prefer if we just stopped breaking the fucking rules so we didn't have to worry about how the violations were found and who reported them.
 
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BB73;2032781; said:
From reading the documents, the Failure to Monitor is because tOSU realized that there were issues with DiGeronimno as a booster a few years ago - they did some things to distance DiGeronimo from the program in 2005 and 2006.

But tOSU didn't take steps to make sure that players didn't attend the February, 2011 charity event without the compliance department's approval; and didn't make sure that anybody employed by DiGeronimo in the last couple of years had gotten approval and filled out the proper forms, etc.

I'm still hoping there's no postseason ban, but I think it could go either way. It sucks that the ruling won't come out until after the 2011 postseason.

Edit - Gee's cover letter asks for a review via conference call during the week of November 28th, and asks them to render a final decision on this case as soon thereafter as possible. It mentions something previously referred to in a November 3rd letter from University consultant Stephanie Hannah to NCAA Committee on Infractions member Shep Cooper, so it seems tOSU has been working to try to get this resolved in time for the 2011 postseason. But if tOSU defeats TSUN on Nov 26th to earn the CCG berth, can a ruling that occurs the following week affect the participants in the Dec 3rd CCG?
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there is no proof that this is the case.
 
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Me, on the computer this afternoon:
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My 2 cents:

If Smith can use his connections and get a decision by the completion of the CCG, my opinion of him will turn almost 180 degrees. Recruits will have the truth, Board, Gee, Smith, and coaching candidates will know the situation, all will be well.

If he can get the timetable moved up considerably, he is at least doing his job. The recruits can at least know the details, seeing on how this is the most important decision of their lives to date (not that the NCAA seems to care about fairness or anything.

If, despite his 'connections', he is unable to put any pressure on the NCAA and the final decision doesn't come down until March, in effect torpedoing our recruiting class and our coaching decision, then I would kick him in the shin if I ever passed him on the street.


On a semi-related note, in my IMO (which is completely amateur and not based on precedent in any way) I have felt that as the end of October beginning of November came around, the chances of any postseason ban applying to 2011 became very unlikely. Can anyone with more insight confirm or refute that assumption?
 
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Ryan36_1;2032890; said:
On a semi-related note, in my IMO (which is completely amateur and not based on precedent in any way) I have felt that as the end of October beginning of November came around, the chances of any postseason ban applying to 2011 became very unlikely. Can anyone with more insight confirm or refute that assumption?
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I don't think there is anything that would prevent the NCAA from waiting until the B1G championship game (if OSU is not in it) to announce a post-season ban. However, I expect we will hear from them in the next week. :(

I just want to get it over with, whatever it is.

It would be so awesome to play in the B1G champ game and win it. Matt Hayes said before the season that we wouldn't be a factor. I think Ohio State will handle the next 2 games. That game in A2 will be really interesting for the first time in a long time.
 
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Well I may be way to optimistic, but the NCAA leveled the FTM and OSU has already accepted the verdict. The only thing in play now is the punishment. Which Gene Smith hit exactly right on the Tatgate violations. Assuming Smith is right again, the NCAA can accept the self impose and therefore eliminate the need for a COI meeting on 12/10. The timeline in the Dispatch would be if we were contesting the charges.

What I am saying is this could be finished before the end of this month.
 
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