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Yahoo, Tattoos, and tOSU (1-year bowl ban, 82 scholly limit for 3 years)

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westbrock;1968801; said:
I was listening to an espn radio affiliate tonight. In its Sportcenter recap when discussing the hearing today Holtzman noted that G Smith said tOSU has not heard anything about additional allegations or particular additional issues being investigated. He then said there was a letter sent by the NCAA, not to tOSU, but to a consultant tOSU hired that the NCAA is looking into other matters and that an additional hearing may be necessary. Take if FWIW given the source.
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He's correct. The letter was an internal NCAA letter sent from their Enforcement Department to their Infractions Committee, dated July 13th/14th (depending on which copy you see), and copies of that letter were sent to Gene Marsh (Tressel's lawyer) and Chuck Smrt (an attorney who tOSU is consulting for compliance issues). The letter stated that the investigation was still open, and that the hearing could possibly be delayed. Since the hearing wasn't delayed, that in itself was a good sign.

But according to the Dispatch yesterday, Gene Smith said that those issues have since been resolved. It's believed that those issues were related to the last 1 or 2 guys that were involved with Eddie Rife but not identified in December. Neither one of those 2 guys is still at tOSU.

I believe that the issues which have been identified to date have been resolved. I think the NCAA won't come out and say that the investigation is over simply because they're waiting several weeks to finalize their report, and if they say it's over and then something new pops up before their report is published they'll look silly.

buckeyebri;1968867; said:
ESPiN is still saying that the Failure to Monitor is still on the table and could come out of the July letter of additional investigation.

I thought that the NCAA already sent OSU a letter saying that this was not going to happen?
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ESPN is talking about a letter on July 13th/14th. The case summary which the NCAA sent to tOSU on July 21st said that "there are no remaining issues regarding either allegation" and "the enforcement staff did not believe a failure to monitor charge was appropriate in this case".

So it seems that ESPN is hanging its hat on the fact that 1 month ago the NCAA said that the case was still open, despite the fact that the NCAA said 1 week later that there are no remaining issues. So good luck to them with that.

All of the documents which I'm referring to are available in the link that is in post 1 of this thread.
 
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It's like saying Illinois still has a chance. The odds have dropped tremendously. Never in the history of football has one program been so thoroughly examined.
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buckeyebri;1968867; said:
ESPiN is still saying that the Failure to Monitor is still on the table and could come out of the July letter of additional investigation.

I thought that the NCAA already sent OSU a letter saying that this was not going to happen?
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your sig says it all
 
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buckeyeinfla;1968764; said:
i think the ongoing investigation pertained to July and player H...forde got the letter a month late and used it in the present tense. I don't think the NCAA is investigating osu anymore..i think this is all but over
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e!spn is desperately clinging to any scrap that they can twist to continue to draw viewership/page hits. If the investigation was still on going, yesterday's hearing would have been pushed back. It's that simple. e!spn knows this full well, but they have an agenda to push. They are as much a journalistic entity as tmz is. Which is to say they're not...at all.
 
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NFBuck;1968883; said:
e!spn is desperately clinging to any scrap that they can twist to continue to draw viewership/page hits. If the investigation was still on going, yesterday's hearing would have been pushed back. It's that simple. e!spn knows this full well, but they have an agenda to push. They are as much a journalistic entity as tmz is. Which is to say they're not...at all.
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^^THIS^^ They really don't want to let this thing die and move on to oh, I don't know, Oregon, UNC, Auburn. I guess tOSU news is their best driver of ratings/pageviews. So we have that going for us. :roll1:
 
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This is a text from one of friends who roots for TSUN.

"Hey feller ur bucks might be as fucked as the blue, wow, example being made of brutus"

My reply, "Stop listening to ESPiN, shit, Dodd, etc. And! Next time you better capitalize Bucks and Brutus!"

Am I missing something? Is there some super report that I can't find that says tOSU is banned from Earth?
 
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LovelandBuckeye;1968959; said:
This is a text from one of friends who roots for TSUN.

"Hey feller ur bucks might be as fucked as the blue, wow, example being made of brutus"

My reply, "Stop listening to ESPiN, shit, Dodd, etc. And! Next time you better capitalize Bucks and Brutus!"

Am I missing something? Is there some super report that I can't find that says tOSU is banned from Earth?
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Yes, but i shoved that report up Dodds ass. (he liked it)
 
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MililaniBuckeye;1968609; said:
Bingo. Our infractions do not rise to the level which would warrant schollie reductions or a bowl ban.
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I could see one or two schollies taken for like two years and extending the probation 2 or 3 years more. Really don't see a bowl ban unless they get a hard on about it happening on probation - but the two major infractions do not have anything to do with each other. The thing is, they can really do anything they want, as precedent is not binding on them in any way.

I agree with your take Mili, but I still think that they may get a pound of flesh - or at least a few ounces - for tOSU making a fool of them in December. And before you start saying "That was Tress - not us!", remember that Tress was an employee, and while you can describe it as a rogue coach deal, that does not make the coach any less a representative of the program. I'm not trying to be Debbie Downer, but some of the language out of NCAA infractions has been more threatening than we have heard for a while....the "not bound by prior decisions" and the "need to increase penalties to deter" type sound bites.

Hope for the best, expect the worst I guess. But you don't make a failure to monitor or a lack of institutional control finding in three and a half freaking hours, so I'm with you on that being a no-go.
 
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Gatorubet;1969101; said:
Hope for the best, expect the worst I guess.
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That pretty much sums up my thoughts over this whole debacle. I expect to be void of postseason play this season, maybe next. The NCAA is the joke rent-a-cop who is being laughed at, I just get this feeling that they are going to come down on OSU in a fashion that will make us an example. ESPN is reporting constantly on us......know why? OSU draws ratings, always has always will. Let's just take this for what it is. ESPN putting kindling on the fire during a slow summer news cycle. They know that they piss us off, they know that there are many fans out there that dislike OSU. Either way, they get a reaction, which is what they are going for. Lets just hope that the NCAA will not come down too hard here......I hope for the best, but expect the worst.
 
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NCAA Set to Hear Ohio State Violations Case
Naturally, Smith believes the Buckeyes' proposed penalties are sufficient.

"We feel strongly about where we are with our sanctions," he said recently.

Should the NCAA decide to add to Ohio State's penalties, Smith, who has served on the NCAA's committee on infractions, said he would be extremely upset.

"I'll be shocked and disappointed and on the offensive," he said. "It'll be behavior you haven't witnessed."
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I found the link at a scUM forum. What Smith says, especially the bolded part on page 2, is pretty strong. Didn't expect that from him. Anyone know anything more about this?
 
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