Yahoo, Tattoos, and tOSU (1-year bowl ban, 82 scholly limit for 3 years)

[Coqui]

Do you really think all 125 athletes need constant monitoring? Come on now. Everyone on the team, including the staff, knows who the bad apples are. JT clearly knew who the baddest apple was, as he was warned on multiple occasions, yet he chose to cover it up instead of act on it.

I cant believe at this point that anyone is actually still sticking up for Tressel, take off the scarlet colored glasses guys. Like many of you I always hung my hat on his integrity, but apparently that was non-existent. Its time to take our medicine, clean up the program, and move on.

Yeah because someone who wants an in would never start with a walk on. And remember, one of the Tat 5 wasn't a star player (until after the Sugar Bowl) Had you read my post, you would realize I'm not standing up for anyone. I'm simply saying laying the blame on one party is ridiculous.

It's the players fault for accepting the money or whatever. It's the compliance department's fault for not noticing it. It's the coach's fault for not ingraining it better into the players.

 

[Nicknam4]

Who was it that mentioned coaches talked about the rules frequently? I thought it was Lauranitis or Sanzenbacher, but I'm not sure.

 

[MaxBuck]

I would agree with you, except Ohio State's problem is they have no plausible deniability. Tressel knew exactly what was gong on, having even been given specifics, and chose to cover it up instead of act.

This horse isn't just dead, it's already been bottled.

 

[Carmen Ohio]

As much as we all like predicting... looking at the schedule and figuring out what our final record will be with the certainty of some all-knowing god, I think everybody needs to step back from this one and actually wait to see what happens. A lot of intelligent arguments are being made but some important points are consistently and perhaps in some cases conveniently being ignored.

First, S.I. and ESPN are not the NCAA. It doesn't hand down sanctions based on news reports centered on anonymous sources and sillouetted ex-friends. The NCAA has to have proof. All any of us know is that it's reasonable to assume they have proof surrounding the six players suspended for the first five games and that JT lied about what he knew. Given the image Tressel cultivated and the obvious close relationship he had with TP, those two things by themselves are enough to force his resignation and Pryor to follow. How can this kid step on the field knowing that many of the 100,000 plus think he's the one responsible for their beloved coach's resignation.

But more than anything mentioned, I strongly believe that in mentoring Braxton Miller he saw a quarterback who was already better than him and just needed the reps. I think TP knew with everything going on, after five games there'd be a good chance he would not see the field as a starter again and used this as a chance to get out. Ohio State a mess? In shambles? This is the year to "get" Ohio State? The defense has always been fantastic, the backfield has never been this deep, we have a great recruiting class and new blood at quarterback could get us back to team offense, not go-as-one-man-goes offense... now we have a reason to play inspired football.

Finally, put yourself in the NCAA's shoes. Has it ever had a case quite like this one? Severe sanctions were meted out when it was clear players were being outright paid in one way or another. Wasn't part of the reason the NCAA let the players in question participate in the bowl game that they were not informed that selling their memorabilia was a violation? Isn't it possible that one member of the infractions committee is going to look at this thing and think; "this rule is idotic" to quote Bobby Knight, and keep the committee in check?

The bottom line is if it seems most people predict doom and gloom it's because most people didn't or don't go to Ohio State. It's because most of them have seen their team lose to Ohio State. If the players knew they were in violation and it was widespread then who can argue against whatever we get. But no matter what that is, nobody or nothing can kill Ohio State... and we've got a season to play.

 

[Gatorubet]

Isn't it possible that one member of the infractions committee is going to look at this thing and think; "this rule is idotic" to quote Bobby Knight, and keep the commitee in check?

No.

 

[WolverineMike]

Wasn't part of the reason the NCAA let the players in question participate in the bowl game that they were not informed that selling their memorabilia was a violation?

osu most severe penalties are not going to come from the players selling their stuff. The harshest stuff is going to come from Tress and his handling of the situation. In my IMO

 

[Carmen Ohio]

No.

Nice to meet a person who knows what people think and what's possible. I'll send you my bills. Take my wife, PLEASE! :)

 

[3074326]

Nice to meet a person who knows what people think and what's possible. I'll send you my bills. Take my wife, PLEASE! :)

Is it possible? Sure, I suppose. It's also possible that I'll bang Jessica Alba one day. Probably dealing with the same odds. :p

 

[bassbuckeye07]

osu most severe penalties are not going to come from the players selling their stuff. The harshest stuff is going to come from Tress and his handling of the situation. In my IMO

This is actually fact....the tattoo situation has been ruled on, only if they find additional violations (possible) by those players is there going to be more infractions examined. One issue in this case is one of the suspended players and most likely the one who enjoyed the most illicit perks is gone and will not speak....the biggest issue now is Tres's 10.1 violation and any evidence that paints a picture of an athletic department that at best turned a blind eye...at worst allowed it to go on...in sum our biggest problems now are the sins of management


Even if the NCAA could talk to TP I would imagine most of their questions would revolve around staffs knowledge

 

[cjmik_75]

The bottom line is if it seems most people predict doom and gloom it's because most people didn't or don't go to Ohio State. It's because most of them have seen their team lose to Ohio State.

Yes.

 

[y0yoyoin]

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2011/06/former_ohio_state_buckeyes_foo.html

Former Ohio State Buckeyes football player Christopher Cicero, who sent warning emails to Jim Tressel, no stranger to controversy

Most of all, he wanted to be noticed as a Buckeye.
For years, he was known for something else -- controversy.
In 1997, his law license was suspended for statements he made about a sexual relationship he had with a judge who assigned him to a case on her docket. In about 2002, a special prosecutor looked into allegations that he discussed killing witnesses for a client accused of committing two murders, records show. No charges were ever filed.
Cicero, 54, would not be interviewed for this story, nor would John Ferron, an attorney who has represented him. Several attempts to reach his family in Northeast Ohio were unsuccessful.

 

[MaxBuck]

osu most severe penalties are not going to come from the players selling their stuff. The harshest stuff is going to come from Tress and his handling of the situation. In my IMO

If that's the case, there's no problem, since the punishment for that has already been meted out.

 

[bassbuckeye07]

If that's the case, there's no problem, since the punishment for that has already been meted out.

Read his comment again...he is saying its Tress's transgressions that will have the most impact on the school...not the tattoo violations themselves which is exactly correct because the tattoo allegations have already been addressed and decisioned.......REALLY the biggest problems would be the ones we cant really see that would lead to LOIC. The Tat five are no longer the issue...the cover up is and how deep the cover up has gone....(if it extends beyond those guys or if Gene Smith is involved) If the NOA stands I believe we will weather this storm sooner rather than later...if more can be proven in regards to TP's recruitment and his stay here and how much staff knew of what was going on that is were the plunger lies my friends

 

[bassbuckeye07]

Tim May sums things up and gives some forshadowing of more shoes dropping.....and he knows what is being worked on


Link

The drips have filled a bucket, and more splashes could be on the way. All this while OSU has been trying to prepare its response, due July5, to the NCAA's notice of allegations issued in late April, formally citing Tressel for the major violation.
OSU is scheduled for a hearing before the NCAA Committee on Infractions on Aug. 12.
The NCAA has told OSU that it fits the definition of a repeat violator, as Tressel's transgression occurred within the five-year window of sanctions imposed in March 2006 in the Jim O'Brien basketball case.
All of that begs somequestions: Will Ohio State also be cited for "failure to monitor" its coaches and student-athletes properly? That could bring major sanctions. Or does the school face the even more serious "lack of institutional control" charge? That could lead to crippling penalties for the football program.
"When the initial allegations popped up, I didn't think that an institution-wide allegation was appropriate," Buckner said. "But now that we have all of these other allegations coming out, if the NCAA is able to verify some of these additional ones, it's possible that the staff could allege a failure to monitor allegation or a lack of institutional control.
"But again, that all depends upon how many of these additional allegations the (NCAA) staff can actually verify, then, based on that, whether the NCAA believes Ohio State did not properly monitor their compliance program."

 

[MaliBuckeye]

ESPN's look into Talbott, states TP was present at birthday parties for Talbott's son.

As gifts go, walking into your young son's birthday party in Columbus, Ohio, with the star quarterback of the Ohio State football team and a linebacker is the stuff of dreams. Getting that quarterback, Terrelle Pryor, at the birthday party two years in a row with a teammate seems almost incomprehensible.
Yet there was Pryor in successive December parties with different teammates for Dennis J. Talbott's son -- sights that left even partygoers wondering about what they were seeing.
"We all thought it was crazy," said one 2010 partygoer who spoke to ESPN's "Outside the Lines" on the condition of anonymity. "It was a Saturday night, and I remember sitting there watching them watch the SEC championship game [on TV]."