Yahoo, Tattoos, and tOSU (1-year bowl ban, 82 scholly limit for 3 years)

[DaBears]

I'm not going to lie, the raffle part of the story made me laugh. Another question, let's say that you are one of the named players in the story and you know you are innocent. You paid for your tattoos, you never went there, whatever - what do you do? What recourse can you take? Once again, I could be very naive, but I have a hard time believing that everything in the SI story is true given the credibility of their sources.

 

[scott91575]

28 over 8 years is an insane amount?

Exactly. I would bet you could find this kind of hearsay (which is what it is, there is no actual proof with these 20 or so other players) at most major college football programs. College football players get free stuff all the time. With 85 players+ on a team, you can bet they are getting all kinds of stuff. I would bet plenty of players get free meals, booze, etc. that is very similar in value to some tattoos. This isn't a $750,000 house or six figure payments to a dad actively shopping his son (which is apparently fine). This is some college kids who got some free stuff for memorabilia.

The big thing is Tressel lied about it. That was already known. I'm not sure any of these extra allegations really changes much. No one claimed the university knew about it. In fact, Rose stated the university was not helping him so he had to find other avenues.

 

[Colvinnl]

An assistant assistant coach doesn't do that without being directed. Just saying.

I'm not saying he did it but I disagree. Why wouldn't a young coach do something like that to help his team and himself?

 

[dragurd]

I'd say it reaching to say it's all confirmed at this point. Most of the article is hearsay and rumors not exactly hard hitting investigative reporting.

And Jax to your question. I can't believe if that was true that OSU would be so dumb as to try to hide it from the NCAA. Things the department of justice found would come out one way or another. It'd be inanely stupid to try and pick and choose what parts of their info you chose to report.

 

[Powair7s]

Rose

Can Rose sound more ignorant? Complains about the school giving him nothing and that he had nothing but, rather then trading memorabilia for food or gas etc. he trades it for ink...brilliant!

 

[scott91575]

I'd say it reaching to say it's all confirmed at this point. Most of the article is hearsay and rumors not exactly hard hitting investigative reporting.

And Jax to your question. I can't believe if that was true that OSU would be so dumb as to try to hide it from the NCAA. Things the department of justice found would come out one way or another. Itd be innanely stupid to try and pick and choose what parts of their info you chose to report.

and 1 source is a 3 time felon.

 

[MaxBuck]

... from what I see its open mic night at the BP bar to see who can be more dismissive of the article.

Certainly the article makes it clear that the tat-trading was likely far more widespread than we'd known. But what else did this "blockbuster" article really present, other than smug comments from one more sports "journalist" who can have no greater fun than assuming an attitude of moral superiority relative to a coach who is alleged (incorrectly) to have set himself up as a moral paragon?

 

[heisman]

this is worth a hearty chuckle:

i can see it now...

tipster: "george, i've got something really juicy on tressel from his time as an assistant coach in the 80s. you're going to love this."

dohrmann: "fantastic! i'd love to hear it. lay it on me. don't leave out any details."

tipster: "okay. we used to have these raffles, see, after these football camps. those in the crowd would buy the raffle tickets."

dohrmann: "interesting. i bet the tickets were expensive."

tipster: "2 bucks."

dohrmann: "oh."

tipster: "it gets better, george. the kids at the camp would get the prizes. but, see, tressel would rig it so that the very best players would win the prizes."

dohrmann: "now we're onto something here. what were the players winning? i bet the prizes were really big and expensive. televisions? ataris? trips? what... what were they?"

tipster: "no. $30 shoes and $15 jerseys."

dohrmann: "oh. okay. have a good one."

I can't remember what I ate for dinner last night, let alone what happened 26 years ago.

 

[scott91575]

Can Rose sound more ignorant? Complains about the school giving him nothing and that he had nothing but, rather then trading memorabilia for food or gas etc. he trades it for ink...brilliant!

Yeah, he comes off as an idiot. The funny thing is, he just burnt every bridge that being an Ohio State player gives you in the future. Not exactly smart.

 

[OHSportsFan]

How long did this guy investigate/post up on campus for this?

Just wondering. I haven't read it, but wanted an idea of how long he worked on this story.

 

[Merih]

2 examples in the story of some pretty big deal type stuff and from what I see its open mic night at the BP bar to see who can be more dismissive of the article.

I'm not being dismissive. I just wasn't naive enough to believe that the first six mentioned were the only ones involved with these types of actions. I attended OSU during the hot periods mentioned in the article, I'm not surprised.

So in terms of jawdropping things mentioned in the article, I didn't see much. Doesn't lessen the impact that these topics coming to light will have on our program.

 

[strohs]

Certainly the article makes it clear that the tat-trading was likely far more widespread than we'd known. But what else did this "blockbuster" article really present, other than smug comments from one more sports "journalist" who can have no greater fun than assuming an attitude of moral superiority relative to a coach who is alleged (incorrectly) to have set himself up as a moral paragon?

What else did it present??? Didnt you see the part about the raffles? He rigged raffles!!! I hear he also hates grandmas and routinely steals their groceries, not good!

Ive felt from the beginning that Tress should have been fired / resigned for lying to the NCAA, but this article is a piece of "journalistic" crapola.

 

[CHU]

and 1 source is a 3 time felon.

That's exactly what I was thinking.

There seriously seems to be a lot of statements going everywhere (but all against the character of Jim Tressel).

 

[Jaxbuck]

And Jax to your question. I can't believe if that was true that OSU would be so dumb as to try to hide it from the NCAA. Things the department of justice found would come out one way or another. Itd be innanely stupid to try and pick and choose what parts of their info you chose to report.

I agree.

and yet the Sports Illustrated writer puts it in there.

Makes you wonder why he would do something like that if it were a complete lie that would soon be dismissed, cause him to be discredited/lose his job doesn't it?

Now that I think about it I seem to recall a similar scenario a few weeks back when people were tripping over themselves to one up each other on their level of outrage over the obviously deceitful, false and slanted Yahoo story. I seem to recall never getting a good answer from the outraged as to why Yahoo would just make something up that easily dismissed if proven false.

Hmmm.

 

[AuTX Buckeye]

How long did this guy investigate/post up on campus for this?

Just wondering. I haven't read it, but wanted an idea of how long he worked on this story.

wondering if the freedom of information act works both ways... maybe a lawyer type could tell us.

gotta wonder too.. not sure if this twitter source is allowed but Scott Sika Twitter

@JeffSvoboda the fact that johnny simon only had 2 tats and he had them when he came in makes me wonder how reliable those names r