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Yahoo, Tattoos, and tOSU (1-year bowl ban, 82 scholly limit for 3 years)

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Tlangs;1926708; said:
so the football players are guilty but Bufford (and Diebler/Dieblers dad) who bought cars at the same place are ok. good to know.


I wonder if Titus knows that if the football program comes down, basketball is too. 2 guys out of 10 is 20% of the hoops team getting extra benefits.
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That's not what he was saying at all... Did you even read it?

Titus claims to have driven Buford to practice every day, so unless he bought the car this past year, then he did not get a car from that dealer. He also claimed that his 1997 SUV was always one of the nicest cars on the basketball team.

He's not saying it's ok if the basketball players did it, he's saying that they didn't as far as he knows.
 
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Buckeye Maniac said:
That's not what he was saying at all... Did you even read it?

Titus claims to have driven Buford to practice every day, so unless he bought the car this past year, then he did not get a car from that dealer. He also claimed that his 1997 SUV was always one of the nicest cars on the basketball team.

He's not saying it's ok if the basketball players did it, he's saying that they didn't as far as he knows.
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I don't think Tlangs was saying Titus was claiming it's OK if basketball players do it, but not OK if football players do. He was saying it's odd that a basketball player is saying "yep....all them football guys probably did get free cars. oh, those guys on that list who played basketball? no, they're innocent. the football players, though.......they're dirty."
 
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This investigation and so forth? Maybe not a bad thing-
Over the past few months, the news swirling and trickling out of Columbus has been a slow, tortuous experience for Buckeye fans. Described as either ?death by papercut? or ?dripping water torture?, it?s resulted in many members of a passionate fanbase to react in interesting ways. Some respond aggressively- questioning the media that?s reporting each new and ?new? detail of the ongoing situation. Others choose to redirect their attention- choosing to focus instead on the stellar performances from the Men?s Volleyball, Tennis, Baseball, and Track teams as well as the work being done by the Women?s track and field squad. Still another group has adopted a ?bunker mentality?; choosing to hunker down and lay low by not engaging media or talk at the watercooler until it?s all blown over? whenever that may be.

I tend to vacillate between all three of these; I question the media?s selective attentiveness to the Ohio State story at the expense of others, I was among the first to text my Volleyball (and Penn State fan) friends when the Bucks took the trophy, and I gave up watching ESPN for Lent and haven?t gone back (I?ve got twitter? what else do you need these days?).

But I?ve got a word of truth for all three groups of people and those who fall somewhere in between: This is not horrific, and may in fact be one of the best things to ever happen to Ohio State?s Athletic Department.
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tBBC: No Need To Panic
 
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BB73;1926773; said:
A discussion of how the media members have handled things involved with the JT story, it's a worthwhile read.

Ozone
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The last guy, John Porentas especially hits the homerun. There are fewer and fewer guys I'm willing to read because pageviews have become as important as ratings so "journalists" have become more and more like Mark May and Collin Cowherd.

I've paired my reading list down a lot lately even before Tatgate. I've been wondering what a journalism degree has to do with sports analysis anyway. Does Stewart Mandel, Dennis Dod, or Bruce Feldman actually watch more football than most of us? I would guess the guys who go to games live watch less. I don't think any of those guys played even collegiately. So goes the story for most of the "journalists". What exactly do they know about football that you and I don't?

When we can all catch the games on TV now the need for reporting is dwindled. There are very few games I didn't see that I will click on a link for a recap (maybe the box score). So now we have a bunch of journalists who have nothing to write about because we've already seen it so they are analyzing it without the chops to do so. And they're pretentious about it, like they are more qualified to analyze sports because they have a journalism degree. Journalism degrees now offer sports theory courses? You can get better analysis in a BP game thread.

The lesson is that there's a storm because something happened because no storm is small anymore.
 
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BuckeyeNation27;1926789; said:
I don't think Tlangs was saying Titus was claiming it's OK if basketball players do it, but not OK if football players do. He was saying it's odd that a basketball player is saying "yep....all them football guys probably did get free cars. oh, those guys on that list who played basketball? no, they're innocent. the football players, though.......they're dirty."
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bingo....and also that if this dealership problem is true and Bufford and Diebler did happen to buy cars there, it isn't good for the basketball teams Big 10 championship this season. (although the report stated it was Diebler's dad that bought a car there...so via the Cam Newton rule Diebs 3 point record is safe)
 
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buckeyeinfla;1926949; said:
Sports Illustrated article on this whole thing out Tuesday 5/31. will detail jim tressel's issues at YSU...not sure what they bring to the table in the way of new information
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probably nothing new, but it wouldn't surprise me if a lot of people don't know about the YSU transgressions of the past.
 
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scooter1369;1925998; said:
My brother in law is one of the top car salesmen in Columbus. Most of his business is repeat business and word of mouth because people direct their freinds and family to him. Its how that business operates. Its sales. You build a clientele. This guy just happened to build a clientele of football players. My brother in law has lawyers, judges, baliffs, you name it coming to him, because it only takes one guy at the county courthouse to say, "You're looking for a car? I know this guy at ________. Go see him. He knows his shit"
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Posted something similar to this awhile back....every good salesperson worth their weight is going to build a clientele and the best way to do it is through clients who tell others....It is fricking sales 101 and every sales guru talks about it...
 
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BUCKYLE;1926517; said:
No one's ignoring a fucking thing. I haven't seen a confirmation that the tickets were from players. Tho, if my mom thought someone saved her son a couple grand on a car loan she was paying for, while not breaking any rules that would hurt the school I love, she may...persuade me...to hook the dude up. Also, it could've been as innocent as "hey, if you're gettin' rid of any bowl tickets...lollololololololololol"...and the first dude gives them up, the subsequent players coming in..."hey, the first Buckeye I sold a car to gave me bowl ticks...so...lololololololololol". I'm not suggesting any of what I say is true, only that it's not impossible to explain. I don't think anything I said is that far out of range, either. But whatever. You're determined to hang tOSU, and that's your right. I'm not saying you're not justified. I've just been thru this bull-fucking-shit before, and it seemed then, as it does now, there was too much smoke!!1!! OMGZ!!211!!...I'll believe it when I see it.
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I'm determined to hang OSU because I'm skeptical. That's the dumbest fucking thing I've read in this thread. Clearly I want the school I attend and root for to get screwed.

This is what I was referring to earlier in the thread when I said I was tired of those who aren't "all in" getting called out for not being a blind supporter. It's fucking stupid. It's just an absurd thought to think that fans of OSU want OSU to go down. I love OSU, I love Tressel. But I can't just ignore the fact that this looks shady as hell. Does that make me less of a fan? To some, I guess it does.
 
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IMO Castel nails it on the head as to why Tressel is getting raked over the coals;

Right or wrong, Tressel has done very little to earn any currency within the media. He often treats them as hostile enemies, or at the very least spies with ulterior motives. Members of the media are not
provided the same access to Ohio State's football program that many other big-name schools allow, and Tressel has become a master at dodging questions he would rather not answer with long-winded filibusters about a topic of his choosing. As a result, the media pulled no punches when Tressel lost his foothold on the high ground because it's a lot easier to continue poking fun at his apparent hypocrisy than it is to come up with something original.
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