jimotis4heisman
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i repped you for that wow, great work. id say great post/research award is deserved.
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martinss01
blissfully stupid
*waves hand dismissively*
thats weaksauce...
last year i ran 13.1 in the 1/4 mi
in my car...
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MistriBuck
aka MartyrBuck
i could be wrong on this but i'm pretty certain he was junior olympic champ
P.S. => Great work digging up those stats, i loved reading it
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jimotis4heisman
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"Full Speed? Not Yet!"
http://www.dispatch.com/football/football.php?story=dispatch/2004/12/16/20041216-D1-00.html&chck=t
Full speed? Not yet
Ted Ginn Jr. dreams of playing cornerback, and he may get chance next season
Thursday, December 16, 2004
Ken Gordon
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH
<TABLE class=phototableright align=right border=0><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle>
</IMG> </TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>
</IMG> </TD></TR><TR><TD class=credit width=200>NEAL C . LAURON | DISPATCH </TD></TR><TR><TD class=cutline width=200>Ted Ginn Jr. makes his way to the end zone on a 59-yard pass play during Ohio State’s 30-7 win over Indiana on Oct. 25. </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Ohio State tuition for the 2004-2005 academic year: $7,479.
Room and board: $6,792.
According to his dad, not playing Ted Ginn Jr. both ways: worthless.
Ted Ginn, father of the freshman phenom, thinks the Buckeyes are missing out by limiting his son to receiver and special teams. Ginn Jr. was the 2003 USA Today defensive player of the year at Cleveland Glenville but did not take a snap at defensive back this season.
"They’re paying his way, they need to get their money’s worth out of him," the elder Ginn said. "He’s just having fun, he’s not being worked. He’s getting away with murder."
Ginn and coach Jim Tressel have talked about this for a while, often jokingly.
"I’m always picking at Tress and pulling his chain," Ginn said. "He asks me, ‘Do we need to pick it up a little?’ and I tell him, ‘Yeah, use him like a dishrag.’ "
Ginn Jr. proved a bit more valuable than a dishrag, though, and that’s why there is debate over his role for next season.
Despite being used sparingly in the first half this season, he finished as the Buckeyes’ second-leading receiver, led the nation in punt returns, tied an NCAA record with four punt-return touchdowns and added a seventh score on an end-around.
But if the Ginns get their way, the Alamo Bowl on Dec. 29 will be the last game in which Junior is not patrolling the defensive backfield.
This is a kid who idolizes Deion Sanders, whose primary impact in the NFL came as a cornerback.
"Yeah, that’s my dream," Ginn Jr. said of playing corner. "I just hope that I can get over there. But if I don’t, I’m just going to play hard on this side."
The danger of using Ginn full time on defense is that it would potentially lessen his effectiveness on offense. And as he proved this season, he is a game breaker with the ball in his hand, someone defenses must be aware of on every play.
Receivers coach Darrell Hazell does not want to lose his young prodigy to defense.
"At what point in time we play him at cornerback, I don’t know," Hazell said. "At some point, it’s going to happen. I’m not giving him up yet — not just yet."
It raises questions as to what is more valuable to a team — a shutdown cornerback or a turbocharged ball carrier?
Senior cornerback Dustin Fox watched Ginn practice on defense for most of the preseason before coaches decided to switch him to offense full time. Fox was impressed at Ginn’s potential.
"I think he’d be a really good (defensive back)," Fox said, "but we joke all the time — I talk to the other seniors — I’m like, ‘Ginn will never see the defensive side of the ball at Ohio State.’ "
Why is that?
"Because he’s such a threat on offense," Fox said. "If I was a coach, I wouldn’t want to risk him getting hurt going in throwing in a shoulder or something. He’s so impressive when he has the ball in his hands, so I think that they better just stick with giving him the ball."
Tressel is vague on his plans for Ginn’s future.
"He’s very capable," Tressel said. "I’m sure he’ll have a chance to do lots of things in the future."
Ginn is planning on it. A world-class hurdler, he will run track this spring to work on speed and explosion.
Anticipating playing more next season, he also said he wants to add weight. He played at about 175 pounds and wants to get up to at least 180.
"I know a lot of teams will take shots at me next year," Ginn said. "If I get bigger and then go out and run track and maintain weight, I’ll be bigger and faster."
He agrees with his dad that he can handle a bigger workload and not get worn out.
"I played every position last year in high school, from the punter to the quarterback," he said. "So just have fun, condition myself, and just go out and know each side of the ball."
Ginn is easygoing. He isn’t making a stink or openly campaigning one way or the other.
But he is aware of his talent and potential. And it’s clear he believes this season was just the beginning.
"My goal coming in was to score a couple times," he said. "Every time I touch the ball, try and do something with it, try to be an impact player. And I guess I made that goal."
[email protected]
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http://www.dispatch.com/football/football.php?story=dispatch/2004/12/16/20041216-D1-00.html&chck=t
Full speed? Not yet
Ted Ginn Jr. dreams of playing cornerback, and he may get chance next season
Thursday, December 16, 2004
Ken Gordon
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH
<TABLE class=phototableright align=right border=0><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle>
Ohio State tuition for the 2004-2005 academic year: $7,479.
Room and board: $6,792.
According to his dad, not playing Ted Ginn Jr. both ways: worthless.
Ted Ginn, father of the freshman phenom, thinks the Buckeyes are missing out by limiting his son to receiver and special teams. Ginn Jr. was the 2003 USA Today defensive player of the year at Cleveland Glenville but did not take a snap at defensive back this season.
"They’re paying his way, they need to get their money’s worth out of him," the elder Ginn said. "He’s just having fun, he’s not being worked. He’s getting away with murder."
Ginn and coach Jim Tressel have talked about this for a while, often jokingly.
"I’m always picking at Tress and pulling his chain," Ginn said. "He asks me, ‘Do we need to pick it up a little?’ and I tell him, ‘Yeah, use him like a dishrag.’ "
Ginn Jr. proved a bit more valuable than a dishrag, though, and that’s why there is debate over his role for next season.
Despite being used sparingly in the first half this season, he finished as the Buckeyes’ second-leading receiver, led the nation in punt returns, tied an NCAA record with four punt-return touchdowns and added a seventh score on an end-around.
But if the Ginns get their way, the Alamo Bowl on Dec. 29 will be the last game in which Junior is not patrolling the defensive backfield.
This is a kid who idolizes Deion Sanders, whose primary impact in the NFL came as a cornerback.
"Yeah, that’s my dream," Ginn Jr. said of playing corner. "I just hope that I can get over there. But if I don’t, I’m just going to play hard on this side."
The danger of using Ginn full time on defense is that it would potentially lessen his effectiveness on offense. And as he proved this season, he is a game breaker with the ball in his hand, someone defenses must be aware of on every play.
Receivers coach Darrell Hazell does not want to lose his young prodigy to defense.
"At what point in time we play him at cornerback, I don’t know," Hazell said. "At some point, it’s going to happen. I’m not giving him up yet — not just yet."
It raises questions as to what is more valuable to a team — a shutdown cornerback or a turbocharged ball carrier?
Senior cornerback Dustin Fox watched Ginn practice on defense for most of the preseason before coaches decided to switch him to offense full time. Fox was impressed at Ginn’s potential.
"I think he’d be a really good (defensive back)," Fox said, "but we joke all the time — I talk to the other seniors — I’m like, ‘Ginn will never see the defensive side of the ball at Ohio State.’ "
Why is that?
"Because he’s such a threat on offense," Fox said. "If I was a coach, I wouldn’t want to risk him getting hurt going in throwing in a shoulder or something. He’s so impressive when he has the ball in his hands, so I think that they better just stick with giving him the ball."
Tressel is vague on his plans for Ginn’s future.
"He’s very capable," Tressel said. "I’m sure he’ll have a chance to do lots of things in the future."
Ginn is planning on it. A world-class hurdler, he will run track this spring to work on speed and explosion.
Anticipating playing more next season, he also said he wants to add weight. He played at about 175 pounds and wants to get up to at least 180.
"I know a lot of teams will take shots at me next year," Ginn said. "If I get bigger and then go out and run track and maintain weight, I’ll be bigger and faster."
He agrees with his dad that he can handle a bigger workload and not get worn out.
"I played every position last year in high school, from the punter to the quarterback," he said. "So just have fun, condition myself, and just go out and know each side of the ball."
Ginn is easygoing. He isn’t making a stink or openly campaigning one way or the other.
But he is aware of his talent and potential. And it’s clear he believes this season was just the beginning.
"My goal coming in was to score a couple times," he said. "Every time I touch the ball, try and do something with it, try to be an impact player. And I guess I made that goal."
[email protected]
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scUM Buster
kick some ass
I really like Ginn Sr. I'd like to see him on the staff sometime down the road. (after Ginn Jr. is gone, so as to avoid an ESPin accusation)
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scUM Buster said:
No way...we need him to stay at Glenville and keep loading us the pipeline. Besides, he's more of a positive influence and can touch more lives there.
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scUM Buster
kick some ass
As long as we both agree that the man has an incredibly positive influence. I like his attitude.MililaniBuckeye said:
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Since I live in NE Ohio, I can say that I think for some, he goes a little further than just touching lives...he is so influential in a positive way that he probably has saved some lives. What he does year in and year out at Glenville is one the greatest public services to Cleveland.
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jimotis4heisman
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go to a glenville game, its an odd thing. he does things for a community and area that well is not so postive. he gives that area something to be proud of, very proud of, he is not just touching kids lives but bring the community in too.MililaniBuckeye said:
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Now just imagine what those will look like next year when he is playing full time and IF troy keeps what he had in the scum game.
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