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WR Ted Ginn, Jr. (Official Thread)

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IMO you don't want to see Teddy get over 200 LBS. i Think he can get a little faster. I know he can get more power.

Plyometrics will increase his vertical jump and make his fast twitch fibers more explosive. He probably can drop his 40 .05. That doesn't sound like much but when you are as fast as he is thats incredible.

He will put on 5-10 pounds of lean mass by next year. This will make a difference when players try to jam him at the line.

IMO Ginn at 190-195 pounds is as big as he needs to get. If he starts getting too muscular he may start to lose speed and agility. He has about 15 -20 more pounds of muscle he can pack on without jeopardizing his overall ability.
 
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it all depends on the quality of turf, the good stuff very few hs teams have (massillon etc) the other is shit, and is terrible. the new fieldturf/niketurf is good but it still hurts your feet and joints, no substitute for a badass well kept field like we have at the shoe
 
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jimotis4heisman said:
it all depends on the quality of turf, the good stuff very few hs teams have (massillon etc) the other is shit, and is terrible. the new fieldturf/niketurf is good but it still hurts your feet and joints, no substitute for a badass well kept field like we have at the shoe
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That's exactly what I was trying to say. The only bad thing about the type of turf they have at places like Massillon is that it tears you up when you dive on it. I loved to cut block so I always had to have something covering my elbows.
 
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I agree. He obviously doesn't have to improve, but from what I understand of his work ethic and background, he will.

My only real comparison is when Herschel Walker was a freshman at Georgia. He was a freak, not just a great player. I don't know how much he really improved in three seasons, though. Similarly, I think we pretty much saw all there was to see of MoC. I doubt that he would've improved all that much, had he stayed. Again, had he even regressed, he would've been an improvement over Ross, but I think he topped out in year one. TG, on the other hand, could be truly amazing, if he continues to develop.
 
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...Similarly, I think we pretty much saw all there was to see of MoC. I doubt that he would've improved all that much, had he stayed...
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I don't know. I think he could've got just a tad faster and got his weight up to a solid 235-240. Plus his added game experience would've improved his ability to predict where holes would form and how/where to make his cuts. Too bad that this is a moot point...
 
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Brutus is correct-a few more lbs of muscle will help him getting off the line. Also-what is TG's vertical? A WR can always work on that. That said, a full off season working on hands and route running will help more than anything. TG will be absolutely sick as a full time weapon on offense w/ a year of experience-to hell w/ playing CB!!
 
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sharper routes, better hands, and a better understanding of the offense are all definite things he can improve on.

as others have noted, speed "maybe". strength, most likely. better field vision, probably. tg will get better as his career progresses.

flame me if you want, but MoC would have been a heisman winner and first round draft choice either this year or next if he had the brain power to stick it out. he could have improved on every single facet of his game. strength, speed, blocking, hands, field vision, etc... but the raw talent was there. unfortantely the iq was sadly lacking.
 
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Obviously TG2's main attribute is blazing speed. We can recruit guys who are bigger and stronger than he will ever be, we already have many receivers in the program that fit that bill, but they will never be anywhere near as prolific a player as Mr. Ginn is and should continue to be. Sure, I would like TG2 to add a little bit of lean muscle to help him get off the line in bump coverage, and break an extra tackle hear and there, but not at the expense of .01 of a second off his forty time.

When Maurice Hall came into the program as a freshman he was a fairly slight player for a running back but he had some serious wheels. I remember him taking a handoff against Akron on a sweep and just outrunning everyone. His speed was impressive to say the least. In the offseason he probably added a good 15 pounds of muscle but I never saw that kind of speed out of him again that i saw in that Akron game.

Basically what I am saying is that some players are "speed guys" and their primary focus in strength and conditioning should be to maintain and improve that speed. TG2 is one of those players. I've seen too many players early in their career who looked very promising but bulked up and never quite lived up to expectations. Mr. Ginn if you want to add a little peak to your pythons i'm all for it but remember why you are the player you. Getting diesel may look good on photo day but the thing that is going to make you a very wealthy man someday are those sweet, sweet wheels!
 
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