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WR Ted Ginn, Jr. (Official Thread)

Ginn4Heisman;810098; said:
wasnt willis projected top 3 before the injury? and yes the injury to willis was much worse but he still fell what 23 spots?

Ya, 2nd to 4th pick overall was projected before the injury.

I thought where he ended up was very good. I do not believe that was his first injury to that knee. When he tore three ligaments in the Fiesta Bowl it was thought to be career-threatening injury and even playing in his rookie year was questionable.

That changed as his recovery was ahead of schedule prior to the draft. Here is where he was April 22nd for his workout

McGahee ran two 50-yard "striders" -- more than jogging but not quite sprinting.
"I wanted to see if he could run straight ahead," Heimerdinger said. "You could see he's dragging a little bit, but he's still running straight ahead pretty good."
Ginn should be just fine. Perhaps a minor drop in the draft if anything.
 
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here is a little story/rankings that Todd McShay from ESPN wrote about Ginn and his workout. -- Which by the last line, i will admit that i am wrong for thinking that he will slide as Todd thinks it did little to his draft status.


Ohio State WR/RS Ted Ginn Jr. was finally able to perform for NFL scouts on Wednesday, just 17 days prior to the 2007 draft (April 28-29). For starters, Ginn participated only in the 40-yard dash and position drills, which means NFL teams have no shuttle times or leaping results to record on him.

He ran three 40-yard dash attempts in the 4.4-second range (4.41, 4.45 and 4.49). Those are good times for most but hardly to the world-class standards Ginn was expected to achieve. For comparison purposes, Ohio State's No. 4 receiver, Roy Hall, was timed by some scouts in the high 4.3-second range during last month's pro day -- and Hall is 6-foot-2 and 229 pounds.

It's important to note that trainers claim Ginn's foot injury is only 75-percent healed at the moment. While it helps explain his unspectacular 40 times, it does not ease concerns regarding his durability issues. Doctors expect Ginn to return to full form in the near future, but NFL teams are understandably worried about his recovery time. After all, he suffered the injury celebrating a touchdown return in the national championship game more than three months ago. The 5-foot-11, 178-pound receiver caught the ball well in drills, but he noticeably began to favor his foot midway through the session.
As always, it's important to put these workouts in perspective. It doesn't take much game-tape to diagnose Ginn Jr. as one of the fastest players in the class when he's 100-percent healthy. On the flipside, it doesn't take much time in the film room to recognize his weaknesses as a receiver, which includes inconsistent focus, poor route-running skills and a general lack of toughness. With that in mind, Wednesday's workout in Columbus could not have done much to sway scouts' opinions one way or the other. Still, it's safe to say Ginn was underwhelming.

Now that all the information is in, here's how I rank the top-10 wide receivers in the 2007 draft class:

1. Calvin Johnson, Georgia Tech -- Most talented athlete in this year's draft.
2. Dwayne Bowe, LSU -- Didn't run especially well, but a steal if he slips to the bottom half of Round 1.
3. Ted Ginn Jr., Ohio State -- Overrated receiver but explosive return ability makes up for it.
4. Robert Meachem, Tennessee -- Second-round receiver on film; 4.3 speed gets him drafted late in the first.
5. Dwayne Jarrett, USC -- Better prospect than Mike Williams (Lions) but still will disappoint in the NFL due to poor separation skills.
6. Steve Smith, USC -- Underrated talent; should be a good No. 2 or great No. 3 WR in the NFL.
7. Anthony Gonzalez, Ohio State -- Better pure receiver (hands, routes and toughness) than Ginn Jr.
8. Sidney Rice, South Carolina -- First-round height, athleticism and leaping ability, but Day 2 burst and strength.
9. Craig Davis, LSU -- Tremendous athleticism and speed but questionable toughness.
10. Jason Hill, Washington State -- Third-round prospect, will get over-drafted due to excellent 40-time.
 
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BuckeyeNation27;810039; said:
He reportedly fell on 5 out of 6 attempts. Fell. To the ground.

Now either he's an idiot who doesn't know how to run, he has forgotten how to play football since November + 1 play of January, or there was something wrong with the surface/his ankle. How many times did he just flat out fall while actually playing football.......you know......that thing he'll actually be getting paid for? Not running 40 yards in a straight line as fast as he can, but real football.
Logic has no place in the midst of a discussion of pre-NFL draft workouts.....where have you been?
 
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Ginn4Heisman;810098; said:
wasnt willis projected top 3 before the injury? and yes the injury to willis was much worse but he still fell what 23 spots?

And yes these NFL guys are stupid and one minded about a simple work out look at the mock drafts right after the season and now, people have went way up and way down just because of them. Hell look at some of the past drafts.

Jimmy Williams was projected top 15 last year slid all the way to 37 on bad workouts

heath miller was projected 13-20 then had that mild sport hernia and slid to pick 30

in 04 Steven Jackson was projected 10-15 and slid to 24 baised on his workout numbers.

there is always atleast 1 player that slids the wrong way in the 1st round because of his works outs, and i believe this year it Teddy.
Good insight, good examples, good grammar. That deserves a GPA.
:bonk:

P.S. Re-read your first 2 questions, walk to the bathroom and look in the mirror. Tell me what you see.
 
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He ran three 40-yard dash attempts in the 4.4-second range (4.41, 4.45 and 4.49). Those are good times for most but hardly to the world-class standards Ginn was expected to achieve. For comparison purposes, Ohio State's No. 4 receiver, Roy Hall, was timed by some scouts in the high 4.3-second range during last month's pro day -- and Hall is 6-foot-2 and 229 pounds.


He can say what he wants...but when it comes down to it Ginn's play on the field speaks for itself...i'd like to see who he picks if Ginn and Hall were in a race against each other...he'd be the only one to pick Hall and that I can guarantee
 
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ABC Local
Although his stamina was less than ideal following months of rehabilitation for a sprained foot, Ohio State wide receiver Ted Ginn Jr. was still clocked in the 4.3s in the 40-yard sprint during a Wednesday workout for NFL scouts, a performance which likely strengthened his status as a top 15 selection in this month's draft.

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The workout on Wednesday consisted of Ginn running the 40 and of going through a series of receiving drills. Scouts said Ginn caught the ball well and demonstrated a fluid running style but that, with his foot still not 100 percent, he was not as explosive in and out of his cuts as they project him to be when he is fully recovered. Most teams rate Ginn the No. 2 wide receiver prospect in the draft, behind only Georgia Tech's Calvin Johnson, and some projections have him a top 10 choice. Beyond the foot injury, the only other concerns about Ginn revolve around his thin build. At the combine, he measured 5-feet-11 .25 and 178 pounds.

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DDN

OSU star Ginn runs well for NFL scouts

Back from a foot injury, he's timed at 4.4 seconds in the 40-yard dash.



By Chick Ludwig
Staff Writer

Thursday, April 12, 2007

Even when Ted Ginn Jr. isn't performing at his peak, the former Ohio State star is still impressive.
The 5-foot-11, 178-pound wide receiver, finally healthy after four months of rehabilitation for a left mid-foot sprain, reportedly was clocked between 4.37 and 4.45 seconds in the 40-yard dash at his campus workout for NFL scouts on Wednesday.

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DDN

An interview with Ted Ginn Jr.'s agent



By Chick Ludwig
Staff Writer

Thursday, April 12, 2007

The following is a transcript of Dayton Daily News' NFL writer Chick Ludwig's interview with Neil Cornrich, the agent for former Ohio State wide receiver Ted Ginn Jr.
After four months of rehab for a left mid-foot sprain, Ginn reportedly was clocked at 4.3 seconds in the 40-yard dash at his campus workout for NFL scouts on Wednesday. The NFL Draft is April 28 and 29.

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Ohio State's Ginn piques Rams' interest
ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH​
04/12/2007

Rams Park was oozing with return ability Wednesday. No less than five draft prospects with at least one kickoff or punt return for a touchdown in college had visits with the team.

Why then, did a five-man Rams contingent zip over to Columbus, Ohio, on Wednesday to watch ... a return man?

The answer: Ted Ginn Jr.

Coach Scott Linehan, offensive coordinator Greg Olson, wide receivers coach Henry Ellard, special teams coach Al Roberts and vice president of player personnel Tony Softli were there to watch Ginn's eagerly awaited pro day.

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Dispatch

NFL workout
Gimpy Ginn wows scouts
Speed obvious despite being just '75 to 80 percent'
Thursday, April 12, 2007 3:47 AM
By Ken Gordon


THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH
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ASSOCIATED PRESS
Ted Ginn Gr., here answering questions at the NFL Combine in February, averaged 4.4 seconds in three 40-yard dashes yesterday during a private workout for scouts.

Ted Ginn Jr. wasn't healthy enough to run Ginn-like times, but nobody left his private workout yesterday disappointed in the former Ohio State receiver. Ginn suffered a foot sprain in the Jan. 8 national-title game and started running again only three weeks ago, his father said. Ted Ginn Sr. estimated that his son was about "75 to 80 percent" healthy when he auditioned for at least 15 NFL teams in the Woody Hayes Athletic Center.

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Dispatch

Still hurting, Ginn goes around 4.4 in 40s

Wednesday, April 11, 2007 3:44 PM
By Ken Gordon


COLUMBUS DISPATCH

Even less than 100 percent healthy, Ted Ginn Jr. proved pretty fast today in a private workout for NFL coaches and scouts. The former Ohio State receiver ran three 40-yard dashes at the Woody Hayes Athletic Center, and the consensus was he averaged around 4.4 seconds.
His father, Ted Ginn Sr., reported times of 4.38, 4.40 and 4.41. He said his son was 75 percent to 80 percent healthy.

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