Who will be tOSU's head coach on July 1, 2012? (betting closed)

[bucknut502]

I'd like to see Mike Leach. Brilliant offensive mind, has had success at the college level and has connections to Texas recruiting. My only complaint with his coaching philosophy was that he seemed to ignore the defensive side, but in his book he admitted that the time off from coaching and visiting other programs has made him realize that. A Leach ran offense and a steady defense could be real fun to watch. Plus he has a hatred for ESPN...

HELL NO!!!!

 

[exhawg]

I am with you regarding NFL guys. I'll stick with guys which I think are realistic. My top two are:

1. Meyer
2. Beckman

Perhaps I am unaware some viable candidates but I don't consider Chris Peterson and some others like him as realistic.

I think you want an "Ohio" guy and I don't think Peterson has any connections. If Meyer gets the job I see them winning the BCS within the next 3 seasons. If they could get 5-10 years out of Meyer one of the up and coming guys like Hazell might be ready to take over if he can turn Kent around.
If Beckman got the job I wonder if the Rockets would go after Fickell?

 

[Sportsbuck28]

I think you want an "Ohio" guy and I don't think Peterson has any connections. If Meyer gets the job I see them winning the BCS within the next 3 seasons. If they could get 5-10 years out of Meyer one of the up and coming guys like Hazell might be ready to take over if he can turn Kent around.

Just an FYI, Hazell is 47 years old. Under that scenario, he would be in his mid-50s by the time the job came open, and I wouldn't see him getting a look at that point.

Urban Meyer is my dream candidate.

Not sure who my realistic one is.

 

[Buckeye86]

Not sure who my realistic one is.

I don't see why Meyer is not a realistic option. He basically treated the Akron game like a job interview from the booth with how much he talked about what he would do with Braxton if he were OSU's HC.

I found it annoying at the time, but now that would be exactly what we need in my opinion.

My only concern with Meyer is longevity, but who cares at this point. The program needs rebuilt and he is in the perfect position to do it.

 

[bucknut502]

I don't see why Meyer is not a realistic option. He basically treated the Akron game like a job interview from the booth with how much he talked about what he would do with Braxton if he were OSU's HC.

I found it annoying at the time, but now that would be exactly what we need in my opinion.

My only concern with Meyer is longevity, but who cares at this point. The program needs rebuilt and he is in the perfect position to do it.

I agree! I think we need to hit a home run with our hire. scUM has some momentum right now and all it would take is a guy like Urban to get the job to take the wind out of fat boy Hoke's sail!

 

[Sportsbuck28]

I don't see why Meyer is not a realistic option. He basically treated the Akron game like a job interview from the booth with how much he talked about what he would do with Braxton if he were OSU's HC.

I'm not sure about whether to consider him a realistic option which is why I didn't list him as such. I would love to have him as the HC, he's #1 on my list and on many others I'm sure.

My only concern with Meyer is longevity, but who cares at this point. The program needs rebuilt and he is in the perfect position to do it.

I disagree here though as far as the using of the word 'rebuilt'.

I don't think the program needs to be rebuilt, the talent is there and a lot of it is young talent (Braxton, Spencer & Smith, Bennett, Hankins, Miller & Hale, Shazier & Grant, Roby, Clarke, Bryant, Barnett, etc.). Rebuilding would be what Brady Hoke needs to do at TSUN. We just need the right guy at the helm.

 

[Buckeye86]

I'm not sure about whether to consider him a realistic option which is why I didn't list him as such. I would love to have him as the HC, he's #1 on my list and on many others I'm sure.


I disagree here though as far as the using of the word 'rebuilt'.

I don't think the program needs to be rebuilt, the talent is there and a lot of it is young talent (Braxton, Spencer & Smith, Bennett, Hankins, Miller & Hale, Shazier & Grant, Roby, Clarke, Bryant, Barnett, etc.). Rebuilding would be what Brady Hoke needs to do at TSUN. We just need the right guy at the helm.

The coaching staff needs rebuilt and we need a guy with the clout to bring in the best assistants. Meyer is that guy.

I agree about the talent on the field. With the right coaches on the sidelines we will be competing for a MNC in two years at the most.

 

[fanaticbuckeye]

When I look at the coaching search I'm concerned with three things; recruiting, proven winner, and an understanding of the Buckeye tradition.

Recruiting:
As much of a 'this year' concern as well as a long term concern. After the black eye we have taken this off-season and the struggles so far this season, we may potentially need a splash name this offseason, to lure a few big names our way. Ohio State will always recruit well once stabilized, but we need someone that is going to be able to reach into Fl, Tx, and Ca on a regular basis for talent that didn't necessarily grow up a Buckeye.

Proven winner:
Like a few others have said, I would prefer a college guy, as I would be concerned that an NFL guy will want to go back. Having said that, I don't turn down the opportunity to talk to Chucky. Given Tressel's success, I don't necessarily shy away from a coach of a lower tier/conference program either, given the coach has proven the ability to manage the program and all the hoopla that goes with it. Though Columbus will be a different animal than Toledo, Boise, TCU, or any other program basically.

Buckeye tradition/style:
This isn't necessarily a coaching style statement, but an understanding of the wonderful program that tOSU is and can continue to be. I don't want a RichRod-style hiring bringing a gimmick offense, or an I'm a more brilliant than you Weis/McDaniels type hire. But I definitely want a juggernaut defense and then the offense. The not so distant history I have witnessed tsun and Nebraska go away from who they were and struggled for far too long.

 

[Sportsbuck28]

The coaching staff needs rebuilt and we need a guy with the clout to bring in the best assistants. Meyer is that guy.

I agree about the talent on the field. With the right coaches on the sidelines we will be competing for a MNC in two years at the most.

The best thing about Meyer though is that, while he's an offensive guru, and runs an offense that isn't a traditional one, he understands that it takes great defense to win championships.

At Florida, his teams won with top of the line defense, and he understood that at Utah and even Bowling Green as well.

 

[BrutusBobcat]

One of the reasons I'd hoped LF would stay on is that our core identity since forever has been defense, and I like the idea of a hard-nosed defensive oriented head coach being in place, since Heacock is not likely to coach for many more years. I want to see as smooth a transition as we can on that side of the ball. My reservation with someone like Meyer is that while we'd have the delightful confusion of actually watching an offense move the ball and score points with interesting and creative plays, that we might also not see the same emphasis on recruiting and development on defense.

Obviously, the counter argument is that Meyer (or Leach as someone suggested) would hire a "good" defensive coordinator. Okay, who? Does Heacock stay (doubtful)? Our co-coordinator this year is Paul Haynes, who I like very much, but who is in his first year in that post and who has to this point been a position coach. So now you're looking outside the program for someone. Can Meyer hire or keep top shelf coordinators when he's "retired" twice in two seasons?

I'd be a little more excited about Meyer if instead of waxing on about Braxton Miller being his guy, that he'd talked about John Simon or Jon Hankins being his kind of guy. You win in this conference with DL and linebackers.

Edit: Posted after SB28. Good "response". :)

 

[ScriptOhio]

One of the reasons I'd hoped LF would stay on is that our core identity since forever has been defense, and I like the idea of a hard-nosed defensive oriented head coach being in place, since Heacock is not likely to coach for many more years. I want to see as smooth a transition as we can on that side of the ball. My reservation with someone like Meyer is that while we'd have the delightful confusion of actually watching an offense move the ball and score points with interesting and creative plays, that we might also not see the same emphasis on recruiting and development on defense.

Obviously, the counter argument is that Meyer (or Leach as someone suggested) would hire a "good" defensive coordinator. Okay, who? Does Heacock stay (doubtful)? Our co-coordinator this year is Paul Haynes, who I like very much, but who is in his first year in that post and who has to this point been a position coach. So now you're looking outside the program for someone. Can Meyer hire or keep top shelf coordinators when he's "retired" twice in two seasons?

I'd be a little more excited about Meyer if instead of waxing on about Braxton Miller being his guy, that he'd talked about John Simon or Jon Hankins being his kind of guy. You win in this conference with DL and linebackers.

Edit: Posted after SB28. Good "response". :)

I'm sure that there are dozens of great defensive coordinators out there. I have no idea who they are; however, rest assured that people who are in the coaching profession (like Urban Meyer) do know who they are. I have no qualms about him being able to hire a "top flight" defensive coordinator.

:osu:

 

[Oh8ch]

You don't need a "name" coach to recruit at Ohio State. The school name gets you in the door. When you introduce yourself you tell them your name and then you sell the kids and parents on who you are and what you are trying to do.

I am still concerned about how Meyer left Florida. I'm quitting - I'm not quitting - I'm quitting. UF had their share of issues while he was there as well. If the reasons he left Florida were pressure and health related it certainly doesn't get any better in Columbus.

Not knocking the guy, and not against him as a candidate. Just don't see him as the perfect candidate some do.

 

[Buckeye86]

Not knocking the guy, and not against him as a candidate. Just don't see him as the perfect candidate some do.

No one is perfect, but Meyer sure has a lot more positives than negatives.

 

[OhioState001]

Urban for two seasons is good enough for me. Lets face it if the season continues like this our recruiting next year is going to be bad UNLESS we get Urban if we get Urban we could probably pull a top 5 class and if we don't scum will continue to out recruit us

 

[sflbuck]

Obviously, the counter argument is that Meyer would hire a "good" defensive coordinator. Okay, who? Does Heacock stay (doubtful)?

Not sure what their relationship is now but Jim Heacock hired Urban Meyer as his LB coach at Illinois State after Urban had completed his 2 year as an OSU grad assistant.