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Who was faster? TGII or TP?

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[quote='BusNative;179127;6]Not many people have ever been this fast in the NFL...

He jogs 2 strides/5 yards at the end of the second run... would have been a pretty sick 200 or 400 yard guy for USA track...

YouTube - Ted Ginn Jr. returns two 100+ yard kick-off's for Touchdowns - MIA @ NYJ Week 8 2009

edit: I do thank whoever started this thread for giving me an excuse to YouTube highlights of TGII... so much fun...[/quote]

This clip at the 0:10 mark. He sees the defender, puts his head down, and kicks it into a gear only he has. It's a shame all that speed is wasted on anyone other than myself. :biggrin:
 
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cincibuck;1791129; said:
Thanks for posting the highlight film. The two that stick out the most are the 82 yards against Michigan. Carr put Edwards on the cover team. Braylon takes a whiff and then either goes off to hide or grabs his hamstring (other track coaches will get that reference). Then the end around against Notre Dame with Mangold running convoy until Ginn blows by him.

As to the question, Teddy wins the sprint. It's one thing to get a six foot body out of the blocks and rolling, another to get 6'6 245 out of the blocks. When you seem him run the ball he's already moving before he decides to turn on the jets. Trained up, I wouldn't bet against Terrell in the 400, but again his body size would be an issue.
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I think that was Datish out there, running the 6.2 40, trying to get in the way of some Domers.

Rob Sims actually did a better job of blocking someone clean out of the play first. Good old Sims - just signed a 4-year contract extension with the Lions. They love him up here.

Definitely Teddy G faster - but I think that's because of TP's superior upper body strength, and weight.

Who is more deceptively fast? Definitely TP. Looks like he's CGI pasted against some old footage from the 70s.
 
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OHSportsFan9;1791264; said:
I know this comparison gets brought up all the time, but I think a better speed question in regards to TP (since everyone agrees Teddy beats him) is to...Vince Young.

And from what I remember, I'd say Vince Young is faster than Terrelle. At least, he seemed to play faster. I know TP has deceptive speed with his long strides, while VY had shorter, choppier steps in close quarters (still long strides in the open field) compared to TP, but overall Young seemed to play more with more speed and explosion.

YouTube - Vince Young Career Highlight Video
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I would say that they have similar speed. VY played in a wide open offense which ran a lot of zone read. Also in my opinion TP looks like he has way more size and muscle than VY. TP looks like he's about 250lb and VY looks 230ish.
 
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chillinvillian;1791622; said:
Hey guys I dont mean to keep bring this up but.......

Despective speed = White guys

Illusive speed = All others


Carry on!
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fox,gonzo, nickey and curt lukens were considered some of the fastest guys on the team and Katz was a freak for his size

Lukens won or placed high in the 100 and 200 meters each year and ended up at state . He dominated stark county and it was a big joke going around back then. I remember him winning a regional 200 meter when he was a senior.

Gonzo won or placed high as a junior in the 400 meters and was on the 200 relays. Senior year had some injury .
 
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AKAKBUCK;1791301; said:
Yeah, Bob Hayes, pretty tough to argue with the 100m Olympic winner...

Still guys like Wille Gault and Renaldo Nehemiah (sp?) out there who have pretty impressive track resumes, if only they could catch...:wink2:

And I don't care what anyone says, Rocket Ismail, Herschel Walker and Bo Jackson were all pretty goddammed fast in pads... Hell, think back to Randy Moss in the early Vikings days the few times they did let him return punts...
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word.....

for those of you who missed Herschel Walker and Bo Jackson, you missed 2 truly special athletes. Both were about 6'1 230 lb and the fastest guys on whatever field he played....except possibly against Darrell Greene of the Skins.

Bo was Herschel Walker fast except with much better lateral quickness and he played with more fire and meanness than Herschel showed after his sophomore season as UGA.

Bo played several seasons of outfield for the KC Royals, among other teams, and although he wasn't an instinctual outfielder, he ran down fly balls that center fielders should have caught. He would also run up and across the outfield wall....leaving cleat marks. And if he struck out, he would frequently break the bat over his thigh.

Looking back at my life of watching sports, I'd have to say Bo Jackson was the best athletic specimen I've ever seen. Unbelieveable.
 
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DaveyBoy;1791649; said:
word.....

for those of you who missed Herschel Walker and Bo Jackson, you missed 2 truly special athletes. Both were about 6'1 230 lb and the fastest guys on whatever field he played....except possibly against Darrell Greene of the Skins.

Bo was Herschel Walker fast except with much better lateral quickness and he played with more fire and meanness than Herschel showed after his sophomore season as UGA.

Bo played several seasons of outfield for the KC Royals, among other teams, and although he wasn't an instinctual outfielder, he ran down fly balls that center fielders should have caught. He would also run up and across the outfield wall....leaving cleat marks. And if he struck out, he would frequently break the bat over his thigh.

Looking back at my life of watching sports, I'd have to say Bo Jackson was the best athletic specimen I've ever seen. Unbelieveable.
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Unlike Deion Sanders, who was a mediocre baseball player and an outstanding footballer, Bo was good at both. Then lost it all, baseball and football, on a desperation tackle by a Bengal CB in a game in which Bo had already posted some outstanding stats.

Still, I remain convinced that Jim Brown was the greatest athlete I saw in my time. Well, I saw Jesse Owens, trot around the stadium in the 50's, but that doesn't count.
 
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OHSportsFan9;1791264; said:
I know this comparison gets brought up all the time, but I think a better speed question in regards to TP (since everyone agrees Teddy beats him) is to...Vince Young.

And from what I remember, I'd say Vince Young is faster than Terrelle. At least, he seemed to play faster. I know TP has deceptive speed with his long strides, while VY had shorter, choppier steps in close quarters (still long strides in the open field) compared to TP, but overall Young seemed to play more with more speed and explosion.

YouTube - Vince Young Career Highlight Video
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Young also got to play against Big 12 defenses...which are turrrible, so it's hard to tell from the long plays.
 
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Despective?

cincibuck;1791694; said:
Unlike Deion Sanders, who was a mediocre baseball player and an outstanding footballer, Bo was good at both. Then lost it all, baseball and football, on a desperation tackle by a Bengal CB in a game in which Bo had already posted some outstanding stats.
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Kevin Walker= LB

DaveyBoy;1791649; said:
Looking back at my life of watching sports, I'd have to say Bo Jackson was the best athletic specimen I've ever seen. Unbelieveable.
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Still, I remain convinced that Jim Brown was the greatest athlete I saw in my time. Well, I saw Jesse Owens, trot around the stadium in the 50's, but that doesn't count.
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Before my time but I did get to see him on film so ... I'd be hard pressed to put anyone against Wilt Chamberlain when it came to all around athletic ability.

And that's doesn't in any way diminish Bo & Herschel who were indeed once in a lifetime type athletes.
 
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