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I have misplaced my pants.
You're up by 1 with 20 seconds left on your opponent's 1 yard line. Instead of kneeling it and running out the clock, you punch it in for the TD. Your opponent returns the kickoff for a TD, goes for 2, and ties the game. You lose in OT. The TD hurt you.
Meh - I'd argue that your ineptitude at stopping the other team from scoring is to blame.
That said, if I'm coach, and I can have my team in a position to kneel on the ball to win the game, that's absolutely what I'm doing.
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TresselstillownsTSUN
Hall of Fame
You're up by 1 with 20 seconds left on your opponent's 1 yard line. Instead of kneeling it and running out the clock, you punch it in for the TD. Your opponent returns the kickoff for a TD, goes for 2, and ties the game. You lose in OT. The TD hurt you.
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buckeye4ever21
Heisman
Here's some stats about how passive our defense is.
http://buckeyextra.dispatch.com/content/stories/2013/10/25/gameday/gd-oller-column.html
92nd in tackles for loss
47th in sacks
79th in passing yards per game
http://buckeyextra.dispatch.com/content/stories/2013/10/25/gameday/gd-oller-column.html
92nd in tackles for loss
47th in sacks
79th in passing yards per game
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buckeyeintn
Legend
Here's a stat about how successful the 2013 defense is.
Tied for first in fewest losses.
Not that there isn't room for improvement, but I think the criticism is a little over the top. When it comes to stats, the most important is 7-0.
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Bleed S & G
Taking Crazy Pills
According to ESPN, we are last in passing defense in the B1G against B1G teams. They also said 'even the message boarders have a hard time ranking them above Alabama, Oregon and FSU'
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buckeye4ever21
Heisman
You can sugar coat all you want our pass defense is bad and so is the big ten. Players and coaches in the back 7 are underperforming.
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But did they only kick field goals before that?You're up by 1 with 20 seconds left on your opponent's 1 yard line. Instead of kneeling it and running out the clock, you punch it in for the TD. Your opponent returns the kickoff for a TD, goes for 2, and ties the game. You lose in OT. The TD hurt you.
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Two things:
1) I'm sorry but the undefeated argument needs to stop and I wish the coaches would stop (I'm not quoting anyone because the coaches have used it and numerous posters here). If our offense was not light-years ahead, we would have lost a few games by now. I realize every win is a team win, but it's not like it was the defensive game plan to let the opposing offense move the ball at will, cause almost no turnovers, and depend on the offense. Occasionally they were noteworthy in the role of the win (I will give them Wisconsin), but often they put alot of pressure on our offense to score points (Northwestern, Iowa...Buffalo to some extent...Cal, Nebraska, and Indiana last year before Boren made the move).
2) The offense is not putting the defense right back on the field most of the time. I am too lazy to look up time of possession but while we get to the line quick, we often pause, look back over to the sideline, and then run the play. Lots of the plays are 5-8 yard runs from Hyde or Braxton. We possess the ball and usually have sustained touchdown drives. It's not like every drive is barely over a minute like Scoregon. "The defense is getting tired" angle is usually attributable to their inability to get off the field on third downs.
- Note: Not trying to pick on the defense, but I'm sick of the baseless excuses. If you want to blame the coaches for not utilizing our ability and adjusting the scheme quick enough to put our boys in a position to succeed earlier in games, that is a justified excuse. If you want to point to Roby/Bryant both being off the field against Iowa, very justified. If you want to point to the massive attrition we've had on the defensive side of the ball and the subsequent loss of both leadership and talent (Bell, Whiting, McVey, Fellows, Wood, etc.), extremely justified. There are concrete reasons for our defensive performance thus far. However, the two I pointed out are not.
1) I'm sorry but the undefeated argument needs to stop and I wish the coaches would stop (I'm not quoting anyone because the coaches have used it and numerous posters here). If our offense was not light-years ahead, we would have lost a few games by now. I realize every win is a team win, but it's not like it was the defensive game plan to let the opposing offense move the ball at will, cause almost no turnovers, and depend on the offense. Occasionally they were noteworthy in the role of the win (I will give them Wisconsin), but often they put alot of pressure on our offense to score points (Northwestern, Iowa...Buffalo to some extent...Cal, Nebraska, and Indiana last year before Boren made the move).
2) The offense is not putting the defense right back on the field most of the time. I am too lazy to look up time of possession but while we get to the line quick, we often pause, look back over to the sideline, and then run the play. Lots of the plays are 5-8 yard runs from Hyde or Braxton. We possess the ball and usually have sustained touchdown drives. It's not like every drive is barely over a minute like Scoregon. "The defense is getting tired" angle is usually attributable to their inability to get off the field on third downs.
- Note: Not trying to pick on the defense, but I'm sick of the baseless excuses. If you want to blame the coaches for not utilizing our ability and adjusting the scheme quick enough to put our boys in a position to succeed earlier in games, that is a justified excuse. If you want to point to Roby/Bryant both being off the field against Iowa, very justified. If you want to point to the massive attrition we've had on the defensive side of the ball and the subsequent loss of both leadership and talent (Bell, Whiting, McVey, Fellows, Wood, etc.), extremely justified. There are concrete reasons for our defensive performance thus far. However, the two I pointed out are not.
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BUCKYLE
Washed
Undefeated is undefeated tho. Of course we all want to see the D perform better. Just like we all wanted this offense to go along with the suffocating D under JT. I don't think people chirping about undefeated are excusing the substandard play, so much as they're reminding some folks that shit ain't as bad as they think.
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TresselstillownsTSUN
Hall of Fame
Do we all agree that the defense is what's keeping OSU outta the elite team talk?
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And that is completely fair, I realize this defense is not going to be dominant like the JT days. I had low expectations for a basically brand new defense and I knew there would be significant growing pains. Not a lack of confidence, but a dose of reality with most of our starters leaving. But the operative word of growing pains is "growing"...we are not growing and probably are regressing. All I want to see is gradual improvement...we're winning games now but unless there is serious growth by the end of the season, this defense will not keep us undefeated, whether it be Big Ten play or in whatever bowl we land in.
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