Buddy just told me he paid way over $100K for his 2020 Land Rover and it's now worth about $25K trade-in !?!?!/
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I scratch my head why car manufacturers have cars with historically the same issues but don't fix them
Chrysler/Jeep has been known for transmission issues forever...
Toyota is known for the weird stuff... like window, door lock and windshield wiper motors..
Honda Pilot is known for being the loudest road noise car in its class
Stuff that Deming tools (TQC, Kaizen, Six Sigma) specifically addressed 40 years ago.. and presented it to all the major car companies.. only Japanese did anything with it
Car industry strategy (and has been for decades) : get the car sold even at lowest margins.. make your money in the service bay
Chrysler/Jeep has been known for transmission issues forever...
Toyota is known for the weird stuff... like window, door lock and windshield wiper motors..
Honda Pilot is known for being the loudest road noise car in its class
Stuff that Deming tools (TQC, Kaizen, Six Sigma) specifically addressed 40 years ago.. and presented it to all the major car companies.. only Japanese did anything with it
Car industry strategy (and has been for decades) : get the car sold even at lowest margins.. make your money in the service bay
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You better be having an intimate relationship with your mechanic or its likely to cause bankruptcy
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BuckBackHome
Wolverine is largest member of weasel family
Read an article years ago about who was then a new CEO to Ford. Guy asked for a new vehicle every few weeks. The reason was to see what it was like driving their various models.
The article talked about how each model was so different. For example, one morning he would get in and could not find the lights because it was different than the model he drove the week before. And these were all Fords.
As to Jeeps, I asked my mechanic years ago about buying a Cherokee. He had a big smile and said it would be great for him. I went with the Acura at that point.
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calibuck
Too soon old, too late smart
Thanks NJ Buck, you brought back memories. Yeah, got all the Theory X, Y, Z stuff, along with others, and Deming. What he said was so very true in theory, but practice could not be implemented in American production. Yet, in Japan, he was revered, still have a trophy in his name (?). Japan implemented in their factories (which USA bombed, and then paid to rebuild), and if I recollect correctly, elevated Japan to pinnacle of production, and reputation for producing things that worked....boiled down, "do it right the first time, and don't waste time/money on redoing" - paraphrased.
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calibuck
Too soon old, too late smart
After I rolled my Lexus, bought a Subaru Outback. Just finished my 3 year warranty, and have less than 18,000 miles on it. While I don't love it, it's reliable, but afraid to say it's smarter than I am. Underpowered, but bought it for mileage, not drags off the line. Carries plenty, and roomy for passengers. Daughter wants an Audi, as her doctor friend has one. Don't look forward to the next car purchase, and reading the above, look forward to buying the 'pretty good auto', and not even considering the perfect one. Other than doctor visits, only use to get around town, and go the golf course. PS, sticks fit very well in back. Looked at Jags, but price tag - simply didn't want to pay for it. Good luck, like your idea of buying a gently used vehicle. About the time the warranty runs out, so does the reliability of the car.
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Just avoid getting one that‘s being sold because it got flooded by Helene or some other storm.
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ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
So, the only info I could find is that Defenders and Land Rovers hold 73% of their value after 2 years. Full-on Range Rovers hold 53% of their value after 5.
Also, the warranties are pretty damned good.
New: 4/50K bumper to bumper + 7/100K powertrain
Certified Used: 7/100K bumper to bumper!
Sounds like a 2 or 3 year old certified Defender is a pretty damned good deal. My only fear is that my next car will probably make one or two round trips to Reno every year, and if it does break down, you know it will be in the middle of Wyoming. Along I-80, there is literally no dealer between Omaha and Salt Lake
I'm still thinking about the new Q5 plug in hybrid when I finally decide to give up my 5 year old Q5.
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I mean, or station wagon. I never understood what "crossover" meant but I always thought of it as a wagon with some lift. (Now now, I'm not trying to get the unibody people all "My SUV is just as good even though its not body on frame! So simmer down)
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What if I told you guys the world has invented a vehicle that requires no fuel, no maintenance, and is subsidized by the federal government?
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Buckeneye
I lead, you follow.
Unless it's the F-150, and I can't comment past the 98' models, every car I've seen Ford produce, especially the Fusion, usually has some type of severe transmission issue.
Jeeps are money pits. You'd have to carry more cash than sense to buy one.
High end Honda. Those K-series motors go forever. While I miss my caddy, because it was heavier, AWD, had the winter mode and GM's interchange program was nice, Honda has been nothing but great to me with anything I've ever owned.
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