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Thanks for the replies regarding Pilots @Crump's brother and @NJ-Buckeye . I don't know if my better half will let me go away from our Odyssey, but just wanted to check in with folks who recently posted about having Pilots in this thread. A couple years ago, I rented a Passport in Denver for one of my kid's sports, and the thing saved our lives in a full on blizzard where cars were going off the road left and right. I'm a big fan of the tried and true V6 that Honda uses across these lines for a family hauler, as there are many mechanics familiar with them should something happen on one of our road trips. I share @dozenmonkeyz concerns with Toyota/Lexus moving away from their tried and true V6s to the turbo 4 cylinders. Which brings me to...

buckeyebri said:
Any thoughts on a picking up a used EV? Drove a BMW i4 rental and loved it
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Yes, but not for a family hauler where I would worry about being stranded if we were on a road trip and something went wrong. Would also require some electrical work to be done at home (charger, but also have a short to the back half of my garage). My wife's car will also need replacing (or a commitment to high maintenance costs going forward), and that is where an EV would make a lot of sense for her daily driving needs. I've briefly looked at Audi e-tron GTs, as those go way under MSRP for being lightly used, and will check out the other brands.

If I knew Lucid was going to stay in business, and if they had a physical presence within a reasonable distance, the Gravity would actually be an awesome option as a family vehicle. Great design and long range. But I am afraid of what would happen if it were to have issues - I wouldn't want to wait months for a fix. And I don't know if the Saudis are going to let the brand go the way of the LIV golf tour.

@exhawg awesome on the Fisker Ocean. Hope it treats you well.
 
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NJ-Buckeye said:
I easily give my Honda Pilot Black Edition 5 stars.. and it has been driven a ton in last 2 years... Would buy it again in a heartbeat

My 2007 Pilot is sitting at 235,000
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My 06 Odyssey is still chugging away at around 160K. I should probably do the timing belt again soon...it's a mountain goat in the snow. Just put my snows on yesterday.
 
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JohnnyCockfight said:
Thanks for the replies regarding Pilots @Crump's brother and @NJ-Buckeye . I don't know if my better half will let me go away from our Odyssey, but just wanted to check in with folks who recently posted about having Pilots in this thread. A couple years ago, I rented a Passport in Denver for one of my kid's sports, and the thing saved our lives in a full on blizzard where cars were going off the road left and right. I'm a big fan of the tried and true V6 that Honda uses across these lines for a family hauler, as there are many mechanics familiar with them should something happen on one of our road trips. I share @dozenmonkeyz concerns with Toyota/Lexus moving away from their tried and true V6s to the turbo 4 cylinders. Which brings me to...


Yes, but not for a family hauler where I would worry about being stranded if we were on a road trip and something went wrong. Would also require some electrical work to be done at home (charger, but also have a short to the back half of my garage). My wife's car will also need replacing (or a commitment to high maintenance costs going forward), and that is where an EV would make a lot of sense for her daily driving needs. I've briefly looked at Audi e-tron GTs, as those go way under MSRP for being lightly used, and will check out the other brands.

If I knew Lucid was going to stay in business, and if they had a physical presence within a reasonable distance, the Gravity would actually be an awesome option as a family vehicle. Great design and long range. But I am afraid of what would happen if it were to have issues - I wouldn't want to wait months for a fix. And I don't know if the Saudis are going to let the brand go the way of the LIV golf tour.

@exhawg awesome on the Fisker Ocean. Hope it treats you well.
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We bought a plug-in Pacifica last year, right before the rebates ended, and the 30ish miles per charge gets my wife to and from work most days. We take the Ocean anywhere else with a round trip of under 300 miles. I've done most of my charging at home and done little more than test fast charging a couple times to make sure it works. Cost-wise, our average month with a plug-in hybrid and a full EV is around $80 for electricity and a tank of gas.

I just drove the Ocean from Cleveland to the game this past weekend. The Center for Automotive Research on Kinnear has a bunch of chargers, so I parked it there with the charge limit turned down to make sure I didn't end up with idle fees since I was going to be tailgating/watching a horse abortion for 8 hours. That was enough to get me to the east side for the night, then back to the Cleveland area the next day with 20% battery left. Outside of being 10K less, the main reason I picked the Ocean over an Ioniq or Mach-E was that it has a 340-mile* battery.

I've done a bunch of research on EV's over the past year, and I really feel they are the future. The latest tech in China can charge a car 10 minutes and have batteries that can go 600+ miles on a charge. For current cars in the US the Hyundai Ioniq 5 will go from 10-80% in under 20 minutes. Give it 5 years, and you'll have a 3-row SUV or minivan with 600+ mile range and 15-minute charging. Road trips between an EV and ICE will never be equal, but when you consider all of the time you save by plugging in at home rather than sitting in line at Costco for 10 minutes to fill up, it more than evens out for the EV. So many hotels have free charging now that I could drive 300ish miles, fast charge for 45 minutes, drive another 200 miles to a hotel, charge it up for free all night, then do it all over the next day. I'm planning a trip to Tennessee this winter, and I'm hoping the wife is ok taking the Ocean. It looks like we could stop for lunch in Cincy for cheap fast charging at a new Walmart charging station, then 2 stops at Buc-ee's on the way down. I don't think we've ever driven by a Buc-ee's without stopping for at least 30 minutes.
 
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JohnnyCockfight said:
Any long term reviews on the Honda Pilot @dozenmonkeyz and @NJ-Buckeye ? (Or anyone else). The family hauler Odyssey is getting a bit long in the tooth, and I need to decide between higher maintenance costs going forward versus getting something new.
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I've only got about 3,200 miles on it but I love it and haven't had any issues.
 
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JohnnyCockfight said:
Thanks for the replies regarding Pilots @Crump's brother and @NJ-Buckeye . I don't know if my better half will let me go away from our Odyssey, but just wanted to check in with folks who recently posted about having Pilots in this thread. A couple years ago, I rented a Passport in Denver for one of my kid's sports, and the thing saved our lives in a full on blizzard where cars were going off the road left and right. I'm a big fan of the tried and true V6 that Honda uses across these lines for a family hauler, as there are many mechanics familiar with them should something happen on one of our road trips. I share @dozenmonkeyz concerns with Toyota/Lexus moving away from their tried and true V6s to the turbo 4 cylinders. Which brings me to...


Yes, but not for a family hauler where I would worry about being stranded if we were on a road trip and something went wrong. Would also require some electrical work to be done at home (charger, but also have a short to the back half of my garage). My wife's car will also need replacing (or a commitment to high maintenance costs going forward), and that is where an EV would make a lot of sense for her daily driving needs. I've briefly looked at Audi e-tron GTs, as those go way under MSRP for being lightly used, and will check out the other brands.

If I knew Lucid was going to stay in business, and if they had a physical presence within a reasonable distance, the Gravity would actually be an awesome option as a family vehicle. Great design and long range. But I am afraid of what would happen if it were to have issues - I wouldn't want to wait months for a fix. And I don't know if the Saudis are going to let the brand go the way of the LIV golf tour.

@exhawg awesome on the Fisker Ocean. Hope it treats you well.
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Recommend going and actually sitting in all 3 rows of the Pilot so you can feel the volume and comfort vs the Odyssey. I think she'd be surprised at how roomy it is. But it's definitely not the same amount of space so if that's her priority it may not check the box.
 
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Wifey bought a Toyota Highlander hybrid in 2015. Still chugging, and cannot get her to part with it. PS, we're now in Ohio, and calmly suggested that she keep it for another one or two years, as she knows nada about driving in snow. Anyway, her starter battery went out, and Toyota guy looked me dead in the eye, when asked him how much the hybrid deck would be to replace, and got a $15-18k figure! My eyes went up, and he said don't worry, won't need until around 150,000. Soooo, when you shop for a new/used hybrid or straight EV, you might want to consider asking how much for the replacement batteries, could be a factor on why selling......and PS, just got back from Europe, and many, many EVs there, as gas is $2.61/LITER! (Little under four liters to a US gallon). And bicycles abound (Zurich, Lucerne, Amsterdam mostly). PSS, in Amsterdam, bicycles have the right of way - literally. Our Uber driver made my wife jump and have an 'Erk!' moment a time or two, from how close he came to those bicycles and/or pedestrians. Bet could start a thread about cab/uber drivers.
 
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