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Well, what's your thoughts on Barbaro?

I just read in the paper this morning that they may have to put him down within the next 24 hours if he begins to favor his good leg. Hopefully he can pull out of it and continue to stand on both legs evenly.

As of now they cut away a good bit of the foot that has the laminitis,which is his left one. They say he is doing better,but if he favors one or the other that is it,they will euthanize him.:cry:
I had a pony that foundered (laminitis) from worm medication. With her we had a creek & the best thing right away was cold swirling water. Then after some time she had corrective shoeing done & went on to her normal competitive career in barrel racing.
 
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<NYT_BYLINE version="1.0" type=" ">By JOE DRAPE and MARIA NEWMAN
</NYT_BYLINE>Published: July 14, 2006
<NYT_TEXT>KENNETT SQUARE, Pa, July 14 — Doctors treating Barbaro, the injured Kentucky Derby winner, said today that while the colt’s medical condition remained dire, he was stable and responding to treatment.
“Barbaro was out of his sling for more than 12 hours yesterday, and he had a calm, restful night, sleeping on his side for more than four hours,” said Dr. Dean Richardson, chief of surgery at the George D. Widener Hospital here.
Still, the doctor said, his condition “remains extremely serious.”
Barbaro underwent surgery on Wednesday on his left hind leg to try to treat the laminitis that had formed in the last few days. The procedure, a hoof wall resection, removed about 80 percent of Barbaro’s left rear hoof.
Dr. Richardson said on Thursday that the procedure was made necessary by the severity of the painful infection, which tends to form when one limb bears too much weight. Bones in Barbaro’s other hind leg were shattered as he ran in the Preakness Stakes; that leg was surgically repaired May 21 and remains in a cast.
Doctors were guarded on Thursday about Barbaro’s chances for recovery, saying they had been significantly diminished by the laminitis. The condition is not uncommon in horses in the weeks after surgery, they said, but Barbaro’s case was especially severe.
For the moment, the main priority of the University of Pennsylvania veterinary team that is treating Barbaro is pain management. Dr. Richardson said on Thursday that if the medical team was unable to keep the horse from suffering severely, the owners, Roy and Gretchen Jackson, may be faced with the need to have him destroyed.
“There is no vet out there who went into this to inflict pain on an animal,” Dr. Richardson said.
Barbaro, a horse who once seemed to have the Triple Crown in his sights, is now simply trying to survive.
He has endured four leg-cast changes and a three-hour surgical procedure late Saturday in which a plate and screws from the initial surgery were replaced. The colt did not come out of that surgery as well as he did after the initial lifesaving operation in May, needing 12 hours to shake off the effects of anesthesia and return to his stall in the facility’s intensive-care unit.
Since then, concerns about infections in Barbaro’s repaired right hind leg and the previously healthy left one have added to feelings of unease.
Ever since Barbaro’s horrific breakdown in the Preakness transfixed the nation, and then his startlingly smooth recovery in the ensuing days lifted the spirits of everyone involved with the horse, the Jacksons have remained committed to the expensive goal of returning the colt to a normal, pain-free life, albeit one away from the racetrack.
They also have said they were prepared for the ups and downs that would accompany a convalescence that could take months. Laminitis loomed as a potential problem for Barbaro from the beginning of his treatment, experts said.
“It goes hand in hand” with major leg problems, said Dr. Larry Bramlage, an equine surgeon in Kentucky. “Laminitis is usually the terminal event for any horse that has had a severe orthopedic surgery.”
While horses with laminitis can be saved, the prospect of Barbaro having to battle that condition, as well as other infections stemming from the original surgery, could mean extreme discomfort for the colt that would undermine the healing process.
<NYT_AUTHOR_ID>Joe Drape reported from Kennett Square, Pa., for this article, and Maria Newman


from NYT http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/14/sports/14cnd-barbaro.html?ei=5094&en=9a1b0347b2d68139&hp=&ex=1152936000&adxnnl=1&partner=homepage&adxnnlx=1152893884-V3Z9Vjysrqerdzmfjskg9A


looks good so far i guess
 
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that's kind of a dick thing to say don't you think. personally it doesn't bother me but ellie seems to be a big horse lover.
Yeah. I'm being a bit of a dick about it. Truth is, most of these animals who's lives become a side show, are better off dead. These horses are run into the ground and beaten mercilessly for the last 500 yards of each race with a sophisticated stick.

Some one actually said to me once "But the horse doesn't feel it". Bullshit. If they didn't feel it, the rider wouldn't be doing it.

And as for the argument that these horses love to do this, prove it.
 
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,203560,00.html

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Derby Winner Barbaro 'Doing Better,' Vet Says
Friday, July 14, 2006


KENNETT SQUARE, Pa. — Barbaro was doing "much better" Friday morning, a day after his veterinarian said the Kentucky Derby winner was a "long shot" to survive a potentially fatal hoof disease.

"Barbaro was out of his sling for more than 12 hours yesterday, and he had a calm, restful night, sleeping on his side for more than four hours," Dr. Dean Richardson said in a statement issued Friday by the University of Pennsylvania's New Bolton Center. "While his condition is stable, it remains extremely serious."

Richardson appeared upbeat earlier when he told The Associated Press that Barbaro had a "good night. He's doing much better."

Richardson told a packed news conference Thursday that the 3-year-old colt has a severe case of the disease laminitis in his left hind leg, and termed his prognosis as "poor."

Barbaro looked every bit the champion Thursday, but it's how he acts in the next few days that will determine how much longer he lives.

Laminitis, Richardson said, is an "exquisitely painful" condition, and Barbaro has a case so bad that 80 percent of the Derby winner's left hoof wall was removed Wednesday. It could take as long as six months for the hoof to grow back. The disease is often caused by uneven weight distribution to a limb, usually because of serious injury to another.

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Barbaro shattered three bones in his right hind leg just a few yards after the start of the Preakness Stakes on May 20.

While the news was good Friday, Barbaro's condition could change at any time.

"If he starts acting like he doesn't want to stand on the leg, that's it — that will be when we call it quits," a blunt Richardson said Thursday at the University of Pennsylvania's New Bolton Center.

"It could happen within 24 hours," he added.

The vet, who has been treating Barbaro since the colt's breakdown, said Thursday that Barbaro looks fine — "his ears are up, he's bright, he's looking around." But that doesn't reflect the true nature of his condition.

"I'd be lying if I said anything other than poor," he said. "As long as the horse is not suffering, we are going to continue to try to save him. If we can keep him comfortable, we think it's worth the effort."

Barbaro is being treated aggressively with pain medication and remains in the same stall he's been in since being brought to the intensive care unit.

Only the sight of fiberglass casts on both hind legs — a longer cast is on the right leg — gives any indication that something is terribly wrong with Barbaro.

"If you look at this horse, it'd be hard to put him down," Richardson said.

That precisely is the awful task that could be imminent because of a disease that has no cure.

"It's a devastating problem in horses that nobody has a solution to," Richardson said.

Until his misstep at the Preakness, Barbaro's career was nothing short of brilliant.

He won his first five starts, including the Florida Derby. His 6 1/2-length victory at the Derby was so convincing he was being hailed as the next likely Triple Crown champion — and first since Affirmed since 1978.

But seconds after the gates swung open at Pimlico, that career was cut short when the colt broke down, his right hind leg flaring out awkwardly because of three broken bones.

Race fans at Pimlico wept and within 24 hours the entire nation seemed to be caught up in a "Barbaro watch," waiting for any news of his surgery and condition.

And for the longest time, it all seemed to be going well.

Barbaro's first six weeks of recovery were relatively smooth — despite five hours of surgery to insert a titanium plate and 27 screws into his three shattered bones.

Each day brought more optimism: Barbaro was eyeing the mares, nickering, gobbling up his feed and trying to walk out of his stall. There was great hope Barbaro somehow would overcome the odds and live a life of leisure on the farm, although he'd always have a hitch in his gait.

Richardson, along with owners Gretchen and Roy Jackson and trainer Michael Matz, all believed the colt had a chance to recover.

Until last week, when Barbaro's condition steadily worsened.

The colt underwent three surgical procedures and four cast changes on the injured leg, followed by a hoof wall resection.

"I really thought we were going to make it two weeks ago," Richardson said. "Today I'm not as confident."

Within hours of the grim update, roses and apples began arriving at the hospital, and hundreds of get-well e-mail messages were posted on a Web site set up by the New Bolton Center.

The vet didn't mince words: "It's as bad a laminitis as you can have. It's as bad as it gets."

He said he has discussed the situation closely with the Jacksons, who have stressed that their main concern is for Barbaro to be pain free.

Several telephone messages left for the Jacksons and Matz were not returned.

Richardson said Barbaro's injured right hind leg was healing well, but because a horse has to be evenly balanced to carry his weight, laminitis set in on the other foot. Secretariat, the 1973 Triple Crown winner, was euthanized due to laminitis in 1989.

"The reason we cut away the hoof wall is because the hoof wall is not connected" to the bone, he said. "If you had a nail that was separated from the end you'd pull it off. It's dead tissue that's in the way of living tissue."

Richardson said it would take several months for the hoof to grow back, and as long as six months to be completely healed.

Barbaro has been fitted with a sling to prevent sudden movements and allow him to shift his weight from side to side. The main goal is comfort.

"The sling is on only some of the day, when it's off, he can lie down," Richardson said. "We are not torturing this horse."

Edgar Prado, the jockey credited with saving Barbaro by quickly pulling him up in the Preakness, was devastated by the grim prognosis.

"It's very upsetting," he said. "Barbaro has shown to everyone what a fighter he is. He showed it on the track and with all the surgeries he's had. It just goes to show what kind of courage he has. He's a true champion, and is fighting every step of the way.

"All we can do now is hope and pray. We'll need a miracle, but maybe it will happen."
 
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that's kind of a dick thing to say don't you think. personally it doesn't bother me but ellie seems to be a big horse lover.
I really enjoy horse racing, it was an unfortunate thing that happen to the Kentucky Derby winner. If, Barbaro didn't win a triple crown race, all of this would be moot. It was a funny joke. If you don't like a comment, just ignore it. Go Buck!:wink2:
 
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ESPN's Bill Simmons (The Sports Guy)
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/060714
Q: Enough about Barbaro. To quote Ralphie Cifaretto ... "It was a [bleeping] horse!" If he placed at the Derby, he'd be an anonymous Euroburger right now. Instead, he's getting the "President's colon" treatment. Can we move on?
--Kernberg, Dorchester, Mass.


SG: That was this month's "Really evil e-mail that made me laugh out loud." By the way, I think Barbaro has replaced the Bonds home run chase and Clemens' comeback as the ongoing "major" sports story that nobody seems to actually care about. We're on a roll, folks! Next on the docket: T.O. and Bill Parcells may or may not be getting along! For more, let's go to Ed Werder in Dallas!
 
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that's kind of a dick thing to say don't you think. personally it doesn't bother me but ellie seems to be a big horse lover.

Well everyone is entitled to their opinion! They like to run it's true,just like greyhounds. When they retire some of them get the good life some don't.
I know alot of people who have ex race horses & show them,I had an ex race horse from the quarter horse track,she did okay & she turned into a super barrel racer,no encouraging needed she loved to run.
When race horses show no interest in running they usually are sold as show prospects.
Some Thoroughbreds become dressage or hunter/jumpers,neither is my cup of tea! Yes,some people/trainers are brutal to their horses on the track then there are some who are truly blessed with being able to do this!
Same as greyounds,they are bred to run! They are also abused on the track sometimes too! I talked to a lady at an AKC show who raises show greyhounds & they are monsters as puppies! They are better off running for a year or 2!
My greyhound ran till he was three,he has a birthday on July 30th,I have his race records! Out of 43 starts he placed in 31. 5 wins,5 places & 8 shows! He did not run alot as some do.some have aroud 100~150 races easily.
Then you have to worry about bone cancer in them,especially the weight bearing leg in a race which is the right hind. Alot of amputations of that leg. Dr.Couto at Ohio State specializes in these Greyt pets! They have bigger hearts,higher blood pressure,more red blood cells you name it he said they are onthis planet to make a veterinarians life difficult! But I love my greyhound,his name is Willie Parker!
As for Barbaro these people love this horse alot & have the money to do anything they can to save him to carry on his legacy & they know to quit when he is in too much pain for this!
 
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Barbaro feeling well enough to enjoy daily outings

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"I thought he was thrilled the first time he went out. He just seemed very happy to be out. You can tell he's looking forward to it every day. It's absolutely normal. Horses love to be outside, obviously, and he's pretty excited about it." Dr. Dean Richardson

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Barbaro stepped outside his ICU stall and started daily walks on a grassy area near the unit last week for the first time since having catastrophic injuries in the Preakness nearly three months ago. The Kentucky Derby winner, also recovering from a severe case of laminitis on his left hoof, continues to show signs he's on the road to recovery.

"It's a big step just to know he feels good enough that you can take him out of the stall and walk him around like a normal horse and he eats grass like a normal horse," Dean Richardson, chief surgeon at the New Bolton Center, said Monday. "That doesn't mean he's healed. It just means things are going well right now."

The 3-year-old had made only a couple of brief walks back and forth from his stall to the surgery room at the University of Pennsylvania's New Bolton Center until last week. Now Barbaro is walked daily for about 15 to 20 minutes in a secluded area not far from the George D. Widener Hospital ICU.

"I thought he was thrilled the first time he went out," Richardson said in a telephone interview from New Bolton. "He just seemed very happy to be out. You can tell he's looking forward to it every day. It's absolutely normal. Horses love to be outside, obviously, and he's pretty excited about it."

Barbaro is shown on video released by the University of Pennsylvania grazing on grass, with Richardson walking him around.

Barbaro has a cast on his right hind leg that encloses the foot and extends up to just below the hock. There's a bandage on the laminitis-stricken left hind foot, and support wraps on Barbaro's front legs.

The colt's comfort level has taken a surprising turn since Richardson said in early July the prognosis for a full recovery was "poor."

"I think we're lucky his tissues are fairly healthy," Richardson said. "I don't know why he's more comfortable than some horses with the same condition."

Barbaro had the cast on his injured right hind leg changed last Tuesday and Richardson said it might not need to be changed for about another three weeks. The left hoof, which needs to completely regrow if the colt is to have any shot of walking, remains the biggest concern.

"He's got to get this left hind foot to the point where it's a solid structure that can sustain long-term weight bearing," Richardson said. "Could there still be some major things resulting in him having to be put down? Yeah. He's absolutely not out of the woods yet."

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