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UpNorth_Buckeye said:
They'll have played 10 conference games, and of their 3 OOC, they had @ #15 NW and vs #8 ND. IMO our best win and best loss are better than theirs. Everything else goes towards them. I would put stanford in over osu if they beat usc.
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Two loses to two teams who lost to big ten teams. TWO loses.... I think they'll get in if the chips fall right but I'm confident in saying that they SHOULDN'T BE in
 
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bukIpower said:
Two loses to two teams who lost to big ten teams. TWO loses.... I think they'll get in if the chips fall right but I'm confident in saying that they SHOULDN'T BE in
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Two losses to two big ten teams who OSU either didn't play, or also lost to. Not sure how that helps your argument. The two losses were still against respectable teams. And they will have played 12/13 games against power 5 opponents. Even with two losses, their resume is better than OSU's. Now we could argue about who is better. I think OSU is. But better resume? Give me Stanford.
 
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UpNorth_Buckeye said:
Two losses to two big ten teams who OSU either didn't play, or also lost to. Not sure how that helps your argument. The two losses were still against respectable teams. And they will have played 12/13 games against power 5 opponents. Even with two losses, their resume is better than OSU's. Now we could argue about who is better. I think OSU is. But better resume? Give me Stanford.
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If they didn't lose to Oregon late in the season we wouldn't even be discussing it. They'd be #4 and playing to stay there.

The fact is they lost two games and not by last second FGs either. Quality losses don't mean anything, though. A loss is a loss. If you want to compare resumes you look at the ranked wins and the record.

11-1 and second highest ranking in arguably the toughest conference with a win over #15ish vs. 11-2 conference champion of probably the third best conference with a win over #8ish.

Those resumes are a wash to me, but ultimately the committee will have to commit to defining its metrics if the choice comes down to these two teams.
 
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Rose Bowl could pass on Big Ten title game loser and take Ohio State



If the Big Ten champion finishes in the top four of the College Football Playoff, the Rose Bowl Game presented by Northwestern Mutual does not have to choose the loser of the game between No. 4 Iowa and No. 5 Michigan State.

In addition, Rose Bowl management committee chairman Scott Jenkins said they also aren't required to take the next-highest-ranked Big Ten team behind the conference champ.
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The Rose Bowl does have a "cluster concept," and the teams in consideration would have to be within six ranking points of each other in the final CFP ranking.

When asked if the committee would consider Ohio State, Jenkins said they would "discuss that in detail in our committee over the weekend, but especially on Sunday morning."

Entire article: http://espn.go.com/college-football...n-title-game-loser-select-ohio-state-buckeyes
 
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UpNorth_Buckeye said:
Two losses to two big ten teams who OSU either didn't play, or also lost to. Not sure how that helps your argument. The two losses were still against respectable teams. And they will have played 12/13 games against power 5 opponents. Even with two losses, their resume is better than OSU's. Now we could argue about who is better. I think OSU is. But better resume? Give me Stanford.
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Agree with you but I'm just saying eye test wise they shouldn't be in.

They lost by 10 points to NW. A NW team that got destroyed 38-0 to a scum team that we waxed nearly as bad.

Oregon lost to the same team that we lost to as well.

Then you factor in them playing a 4 loss ranked USC team for their "quality" conference championship game and I just think it's a load of shit.

Two loses is two loses. If USC wins then why not them? Why stop at two loses? If Conference Championships matter so much then why are we doing this to begin with? Just bring out the BCS already. This wouldn't be a issue if they had only one loss but how can you discount that over a season a team lost twice. We got in last year because we had 1 loss, had a lopsided victory against a borderline top ten team with 2 losses, won top 10 game with MSU, and had a early season loss.

What will stanford had accomplished? They lost early and late in the year, and they play a FOUR loss championship opponent who they already beat. The only thing at the moment they match osu from last year with is they have a top 10 win. Oh and they are still on their first string QB

Meanwhile osu loses one time and is going to get penalized basically like it's two loses? If strength of schedule is their argument then that's another issue I have. It's quit simple to schedule good opponents but it's quite another to actually win the games. They are getting credit for scheduling ND and NW

Thats like Houston scheduling Alabama and losing to them and then they get in the playoffs based off of the assumption "well they had the balls to at least play them" well you have to win that game to get any credit from me. It's like getting credit for benching 400 when you only ATTEMPTED 400 but actually failed miserably at the attempt

In regards to their win over ND... they lost their starting QB, RB, Safety and CB (I'm sure I'm missing more) and still beat them in a shootout on a last second field goal. ND is overrated and when we get left out of the playoffs due to Clemson and Bama winning I'm positive we prove just how overrated either tree or ND truly are.
 
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Bestbuck36 said:
Which is absolutely stupid considering scUM destroyed NW 38-0. More ignorance from voters that can't be explained.
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Let me try and explain it (without saying I agree with it). To me this says that the committee places a high value on wins and losses. NW, with 1 less loss than SCUM get ranked higher even through SCUM beat them soundly.

I view this as a good thing for OSU this year. This "data point" makes me think that the committee will not move Stanford ahead of OSU in the final standings even with a win in the Pac 12 CCG. Of course if one of NC or Bama loses, I would still like Stanford to lose as well so as not to test this theory.
 
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exhawg said:
Losses should count more than conference championships. 1 loss non-champ should trump 2 loss champ. Clemson is the only one with a shot at making the playoff in the event they lose the CCG in some fluky, got screwed over by the refs kind of way. I'm hoping that game is so bad it sets football back 50 years with UNC coming out on top.
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1-loss division winning team. We didn't play for the CCG but we still brought home the East trophy. I know that may not sound like much, but considering how tough the East was this year it's worth noting on the resume.

bukIpower said:
Exactly. Maybe if they were playing a 1 loss USC team that was top 5 then I could see it but since when is beating a 4 loss team impressive?
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Bingo. Ohio State is expected to beat a 4 loss Penn state and not brag about it. How does a division champion Stanford beat a 4 loss USC team and get credit?
 
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