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bukIpower said:
With all the talk of Clemson losing they'll now have more than enough motivation to come out and go off tomorrow. I think all the speculation will be moot as ultimately everyone that's supposed to win will win.

OSO vs Stanford in the Rose.
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I don't expect Clemson or Bama to lose. However, I highly doubt Clemson was going into the game thinking that it was going to be a cakewalk and the talking heads at ESPN have now alerted them to be on their guard. For Clemson it a question if they are going to be....well, Clemson. Do they spit out the bit in the biggest game that they played in the last several decades. Does the pressure of having to play their way in cause them to make mistakes (turnovers, penalties,missed assignments) because their coach and team have never been here before. To me the talking heads at ESPN just add to the pressure for them rather then remove it.

Bama, with a coach and team with experience in these situations, is IMO much less likely to feel this pressure. The only way I see Florida winning is getting some fluky score (defensive TD,special teams)
 
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Jaxbuck said:
to each their own

I think the chance of Bama/Clemson staying ahead with a loss is literally zero. Same with UNC.

Stanford goes crazy on USC then maybe

none of that is 30-35%
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We probably don't differ much on bama/clemson/UNC. I'd have a small % for bama/Clemson in case they lose on something absurd like a horrendous bad call. And UNC if they crush Clemson. But I think stanford is in with a non-flukey win. That's what drives the 40% down for me.
 
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Agree with @sflbuck 100%. The focus on the negative (don't lose or else) could absolutely hurt Clemson more than it motivates them to suddenly wake up and play hard.

If I say "don't think of pink elephants" first thing in your mind is a pink elephant. "Don't lose this game or we lose our playoff berth" works the same way. Brain doesn't have a picture for "don't" so it pictures the next thing.

Also, of note the money lines have changed some on the two primary games:

Bama now -950 (that's 9.5 to 1 against UF) which is a move up
Clemson now -200 (2-1 against UNC) which has steadily lowered as the week has gone on
If anyone is worried about Stanford they are -178 (1.78 to 1 against USC)

Spreads*
*Since 2003 the straight up win results of those point spreads are in parentheses next to the spreads

Bama -17.5 (91.4%)
Clemson -4.5 (66%)
Stanford -4 (60.4%)

Assuming OSU only needs a Bama or Clemson loss the odds are at 39.7%

Not the longest of long shots but odds are certainly against us
 
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UpNorth_Buckeye said:
We probably don't differ much on bama/clemson/UNC. I'd have a small % for bama/Clemson in case they lose on something absurd like a horrendous bad call. And UNC if they crush Clemson. But I think stanford is in with a non-flukey win. That's what drives the 40% down for me.
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I don't share that fear of Stanford but I think USC wins straight up and makes it a non issue anyway.

Stanford barely beat a Sark after Dark coached version earlier this season. USC has the talent and the style match up to beat Standfords ass, meaning they are more than happy to engage in Stanford football with Stanford and are probably better at it when properly coached (or even adequately).
 
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Gcashwell said:
This article must be a joke because ESPN is to busy riding SEC dick to write stuff like this. At least that is what I have gathered from most of the posts here.
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I won't give them the click to read it but if I had to guess they are reading the writing on the wall and adjusting course.

I think trying to act like ESPN doesn't have a distinct pro SEC agenda is going to be a losing and fruitless argument
 
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Lots of talk about Stanford jumping us if they win today because of their SOS. Also talk of NC moving from 10 to top 4 with a win. Looks like we would need at least 2 upsets maybe all 3 to move in.

The way the schedule fell it just wasn't going to happen with the late loss and being outside the Big 10 championship game that is a real killer.

Really needed Michigan to get a freaking punt off with 10 seconds left. At the time we all laughed at that Michigan loss and ultimately it is what kept us out of the Big 10 championship game and a win and in shot to the playoffs.

Really tough to take but we were the benefit of the reverse situation last year of having the worse loss of the 1 loss teams and still getting in while this year we have the best of the 1 loss teams but it means nothing.

Last year was an unexpected title especially after they lost to Va Tech and this year when they were expected to win it all they don't get it done. It seems to always happen that way when a team is expected to win it all they fall short after winning the previous year. How many teams have won back to back National championships in the past 20 years ?
 
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