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yeah it got posted... and ironically at the same time as they posted oden in a wake jersey.DCBuckFan said:anyone ever post this one?
Check in the wake flamers thread, you'll find the picture in there within the last few days... and it should link to where it was posted.
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3yardsandacloud
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dconhoo
Rookie
OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 2:43:49 pm**** **
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Ohio State AD anticipates more hoops sanctions
www.zanesvilletimesrecord...10313/1006
I am sure Skip has long-since moved on. Therefore, as a Wake fan, I have too.
But, even if Wake wasn't involved with these recruits, this is one weird story. Signing the nation's premier recruiting class AND expecting NCAA sanctions is just bizarre.
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Saneff
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Re: OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 2:46:43 pm**** **
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Usually you get in trouble AFTER you sign the big recruits.
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CaryDeac
Starter
Re: OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 2:46:59 pm**** **
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Oden/Conley commit on Wednesday, the AD says he expects more sanctions on Thursday. Great timing!
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PhDeac
All-American
OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 2:47:20 pm**** **
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"It could be everything from taking down our (Final Four and Big Ten championship) banners to a loss of scholarships."
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If you check the record books on the finalfour.net website, they still list Michigan's Final Four appearances and box scores. The NCAA can't take away a Final Four. Including that as a major punishment is saying that the transgressions were worse because they actually won with them. The NCAA should run as if OSU didn't win because of cheating and then take the banners, etc on top of that.
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94Deac
All-American
Re: OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 2:49:34 pm**** **
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I stopped in our parking deck to talk to a guy who drives a Jeep with an OSU tire cover on the back. I have talked to him before about sports and wanted to congratulate him on their recruiting coup. He had no idea who Oden/Conley were. He asked if they were top football recruits. No, he was not joking around. I just smiled empathetically and drove off.
Edited by: 94Deac at: 7/1/05 2:51:18 pm
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Pilchard
Team Captain
Re: OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 2:50:35 pm**** **
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Even if OSU received some drastic penalty which caused MC and GO to rethink their choice (about .01% chance of that happening), not sure that they would choose WF even if Skip had available scholarships in the Fall. Those two had every reason to come to WF, and did not. WF is dead to them, and they are dead to us.
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Dirk341
Starter
Re: OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 2:51:16 pm**** **
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The boogie man is coming... mark it down.
I hope Conley and Oden collect themselves and ultimately head for Indiana. I'd like to see them play in a clean program before adoring fans. They deserve better than a football school.
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HugeDeacFan
6th Man
Re: OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 2:51:35 pm**** **
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How funny would it be if we held out for the center that we wanted and it ended up being Oden. He never signs with OSU because of the sanctions and ends up committing to play here for one year. I feel bad for Conley and Oden now that the AD is coming out with this...wait...no I don't.
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NazT Deac
Lord of the Dance
OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 2:51:55 pm**** **
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i'll save osu posters the time and say, "it's nothing we aren't already expecting." and "we won't be banned from psost-season."
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"We have to get to a point where we eliminate NCAA infractions that are intentional. Two, we have to minimize our behavioral issues that we have had. You're not going to eliminate them; it's unrealistic to think that. But we should not have as many as we've had."
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hey! sounds like a great plan moving forward!
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HLynn
6th Man
Re: OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 2:53:57 pm**** **
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"We know we are going to cheat, but we should try to keep it under the radar".
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NazT Deac
Lord of the Dance
OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 2:56:09 pm**** **
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yes, if they called skip back today, i would hope skip would say he really appreciates it, but we already have a PG now. would love to have those 2 playing ball for WF, but not at the expense of ish. he's a deacon now and we take care of our guys.
would love to see them at indiana or mich state.
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reginator
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Posted: 7/1/05 2:56:57 pm**** **
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That's a great quote Naz
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otowndeac
Waterboy
Re: OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 2:57:22 pm**** **
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I was in a conversation with a guy last night who drives 7 hours to every home game for OSU football. I then started talking about OCC. He looked shocked and said he'd have to jump on the internet and check that out. Maybe with the class of '06, the fans will start paying attention.
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VaDeac
Starter
Re: OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 2:58:30 pm**** **
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well, i'd hope he'd take the big fella if he could cut the umbilical cord with conley.
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PhDeac
All-American
OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 3:02:01 pm**** **
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Even if OSU received some drastic penalty which caused MC and GO to rethink their choice (about .01% chance of that happening), not sure that they would choose WF even if Skip had available scholarships in the Fall. Those two had every reason to come to WF, and did not. WF is dead to them, and they are dead to us.
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Izzo is just waiting to pick up the pieces.
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yes, if they called skip back today, i would hope skip would say he really appreciates it, but we already have a PG now. would love to have those 2 playing ball for WF, but not at the expense of ish. he's a deacon now and we take care of our guys.
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Of course, this reminds me of my analogy on the premium boards that Conley/Oden is like Eliza Dushku being 50/50 for me vs. wakefan and throwing in fooling around with the French news chick for awhile. Well, I'd like to me the guy who would stick with his nice sweet petite girlfriend when Eliza comes back calling a few months later. Skip would give it some serious thought.
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94Deac
All-American
Re: OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 3:05:27 pm**** **
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Still, somewhere in our collective minds, we have to be asking how OSU, facing what they're facing, lands these two over Wake. We're obviously biased and there's locality considerations, but nonetheless, it's baffling. Did we forget deodorant this month??!?
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bishop85
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OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 3:09:45 pm**** **
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can anyone say post season ban???
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Pilchard
Team Captain
Re: OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 3:11:23 pm**** **
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It would be impossible for any coach to turn down Greg Oden. So, if he comes knocking, Skip will let him in.
My point is that I just don't that these kids want to go to WF. I agree that if something caused them to rethink the OSU choice that it would be Indiana or MSU or some other Midwest school, but just don't see any scenario where they are choosing WF.
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webeballn
Waterboy
OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 3:13:23 pm**** **
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Did Conley or Oden ever address the possibility of sanctions?
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WindyCityDeac
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Posted: 7/1/05 3:13:57 pm**** **
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Still, somewhere in our collective minds, we have to be asking how OSU, facing what they're facing, lands these two over Wake. We're obviously biased and there's locality considerations, but nonetheless, it's baffling. Did we forget deodorant this month??!?
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We didn't send the envelope to Daequan. O$U did...
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PhDeac
All-American
OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 3:14:20 pm**** **
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Yes. They basically said they were told they wouldn't be a factor.
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deacfreak
Waterboy
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Posted: 7/1/05 3:15:52 pm**** **
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I think we all know something went on at OSU to get OC. Cook was unfortunately understandable. But, we must find solace in the fact that Skip will not stoop to the level of others. He will keep Wake a place we are all proud to have been a part of and that we are proud to continue to support.
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rgordon504
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OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 3:21:40 pm**** **
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to all the posters who keep talking about how osu fans havnt even heard of oden/conley,
guess what? lots of wake fans havnt either. not everyone follows high school recruiting from the time the kids are 16
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WindyCityDeac
Team Captain
OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 3:22:21 pm**** **
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and i sure haven't heard of most of our Football recruits
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RiskyBusiness
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Posted: 7/1/05 3:22:53 pm**** **
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guess what? lots of wake fans havnt either. not everyone follows high school recruiting from the time the kids are 16
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MichDeac24
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Posted: 7/1/05 3:26:08 pm**** **
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I keep seeing references to shady things Matta has done. But they're simply references. Do we have a serious reason to believe that Matta was slamming Prosser, behaving unethically, or doing something in violation of NCAA rules?
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94Deac
All-American
Re: OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 3:27:16 pm**** **
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rgordon: part of being a fan is following who your team wants. At least being an "active fan."
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Pilchard
Team Captain
Re: OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 3:27:29 pm**** **
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Ohio State is massive. In addition, Columbus is a large city that treats OSU as its home town sports team. Even if only a fraction of OSU fans care about hoop, there is still plenty of people to fill their new arena. I agree that there are many reasons that WF would've been a better choice than OSU, but the football school versus the basketball school argument is not one of them.
Conley, and especially Oden, will get plenty of love and adulation on the OSU campus even if OSU is a football school.
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rgordon504
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OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 3:37:51 pm**** **
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well 94 believe or not but not everyone posts on sports message boards or has high school recruiting memberships. i just dont buy the argument that they wont get love there. if thats your way of coping with the fact we lost them then fine keep doing it i guess
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PhDeac
All-American
OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 3:39:55 pm**** **
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Let's put it like this. There wasn't an up to the minute thread on Bucknuts about their visit to OSU and there probably won't be a 100 post thread when Conley or Oden returns to campus 10 years after they leave.
That's love.
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rgordon504
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OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 3:41:24 pm**** **
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maybe they would have been appreciated more here but i doubt that was their number one priority when choosing between us and them
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3SistersDeac
Rookie
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Posted: 7/1/05 3:43:57 pm**** **
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Gee, where are all those bucknut lurker types now?
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SafareeClub
6th Man
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Posted: 7/1/05 3:47:49 pm**** **
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agreed, rgordon. If being loved and worshiped by the masses and having your sport as #1 on campus, then we should never expect to get a decent football recruit again.
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ManhassetDeac
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OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 3:55:15 pm**** **
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I stopped in our parking deck to talk to a guy who drives a Jeep with an OSU tire cover on the back. I have talked to him before about sports and wanted to congratulate him on their recruiting coup. He had no idea who Oden/Conley were. He asked if they were top football recruits. No, he was not joking around. I just smiled empathetically and drove off.
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You could have had that same conversation with a random WFU grad on the side of the road and he probably wouldn't know who they were either
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Renfield
6th Man
Re: OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 3:56:00 pm**** **
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You reckon Matta and the AD told OC before they verballed that they expected further sanctions? Funny how this comes out the next day.
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DemanDeac
Team Captain
Re: OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 4:14:45 pm**** **
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Let me add that I don't think Matta did anything illegal to get OCC to come to OSU. Unethical or negative recruiting can be considered a matter of opinion but using my personal criteria of negative and what I know from what some recruits said, he did use some negative recruiting against Wake Forest IMO. Please do not EZ me because I can not and will not tell you what was said. This is the last time I will make any comment on Mike Conley, Greg Oden, or Ohio State because they matter not one bit to me anymore and it is time for all of us to move on and let their chips fall where they may.
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SirDeacsAlot
Starter
OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 4:15:05 pm**** **
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Would we still take Oden and Conley if they changed their minds? A 6 player class in 2006 w/ 2 pg's?
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EatLeadCommie
Team Captain
OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 4:18:11 pm**** **
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If you check the record books on the finalfour.net website, they still list Michigan's Final Four appearances and box scores. The NCAA can't take away a Final Four.
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I believe they have in the past. Memphis State in 1985 comes to mind.
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CallowaySlave
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Posted: 7/1/05 4:32:03 pm**** **
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Would we still take Oden and Conley if they changed their minds? A 6 player class in 2006 w/ 2 pg's?
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They won't change their minds, but I'd hope that Skip would accept Oden immediately if he became available.
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Tripol
Recruit
OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 4:37:58 pm**** **
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Do you people realize that the NCAA could hand down a sanction as tough as they did with Baylor (mind you that is very unlikely) and it would never effect OSU during the time Oden and Conley play at OSU?
It is widely held that the worst that could happen to OSU is another post season ban this season, the loss of 1 or 2 scholarships (mind you for 1 year and taken over a few seasons), and the removal of banners from the arena. And that's worst case for OSU. None of that even effects Oden & company. Did anyone notice they just got another top 100 guy today (Chichester 6-8 210). OSU is clearly almost in the clear with the NCAA and coming out of it smelling like roses because they made a great hire in Matta. Good for them.
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tiltdeac
6th Man
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Posted: 7/1/05 4:39:06 pm**** **
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OSU is clearly almost in the clear with the NCAA
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osu4brutus03
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Posted: 7/1/05 4:43:50 pm**** **
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Why are you guys over here trying to hate on The Ohio State University. Wake doesn't have anything on The Ohio State University. Instead of hating on a great university.... be happy for the process we have made.
Go Bucks
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KidA23
All-Conference
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Posted: 7/1/05 4:45:25 pm**** **
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be happy for the process we have made
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Must have been a very difficult progress to come up with this statement.
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PhDeac
All-American
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Posted: 7/1/05 4:59:29 pm**** **
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I believe they have in the past. Memphis State in 1985 comes to mind.
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If it comes to mind, then the NCAA didn't go back in time and erase it. The Final Four happened. No matter what they do, it happened. I bet if you go to the Final Four website, it will have evidence that the game happened.
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Zman32
Recruit
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Posted: 7/1/05 5:24:50 pm**** **
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You guys really need to get over this. It seems like an obsession with some of you. Oden and Conley clearly stated they liked OSU better, and not for the reasons you want to believe. You're making yourselves look bad, really bad.
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DemanDeac
Team Captain
Re: OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 5:46:34 pm**** **
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I agree that this is past history and we need to focus our energy on schools that matter, the ACC. But this comment
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Oden and Conley clearly stated they liked OSU better, and not for the reasons you want to believe.
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is questionable. The ONLY reason they are going to OSU instead of Wake is geography, which is exactly why Thaddeus Young, Vernon Macklin or any other big man from the south is not going to OSU. Your advantage is negated outside of the midwest.
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dconhoo
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OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 2:43:49 pm**** **
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Ohio State AD anticipates more hoops sanctions
www.zanesvilletimesrecord...10313/1006
I am sure Skip has long-since moved on. Therefore, as a Wake fan, I have too.
But, even if Wake wasn't involved with these recruits, this is one weird story. Signing the nation's premier recruiting class AND expecting NCAA sanctions is just bizarre.
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Saneff
Starter
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Posted: 7/1/05 2:46:43 pm**** **
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Usually you get in trouble AFTER you sign the big recruits.
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CaryDeac
Starter
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Posted: 7/1/05 2:46:59 pm**** **
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Oden/Conley commit on Wednesday, the AD says he expects more sanctions on Thursday. Great timing!
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PhDeac
All-American
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"It could be everything from taking down our (Final Four and Big Ten championship) banners to a loss of scholarships."
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If you check the record books on the finalfour.net website, they still list Michigan's Final Four appearances and box scores. The NCAA can't take away a Final Four. Including that as a major punishment is saying that the transgressions were worse because they actually won with them. The NCAA should run as if OSU didn't win because of cheating and then take the banners, etc on top of that.
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94Deac
All-American
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Posted: 7/1/05 2:49:34 pm**** **
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I stopped in our parking deck to talk to a guy who drives a Jeep with an OSU tire cover on the back. I have talked to him before about sports and wanted to congratulate him on their recruiting coup. He had no idea who Oden/Conley were. He asked if they were top football recruits. No, he was not joking around. I just smiled empathetically and drove off.
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Pilchard
Team Captain
Re: OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 2:50:35 pm**** **
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Even if OSU received some drastic penalty which caused MC and GO to rethink their choice (about .01% chance of that happening), not sure that they would choose WF even if Skip had available scholarships in the Fall. Those two had every reason to come to WF, and did not. WF is dead to them, and they are dead to us.
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Dirk341
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Posted: 7/1/05 2:51:16 pm**** **
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The boogie man is coming... mark it down.
I hope Conley and Oden collect themselves and ultimately head for Indiana. I'd like to see them play in a clean program before adoring fans. They deserve better than a football school.
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HugeDeacFan
6th Man
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Posted: 7/1/05 2:51:35 pm**** **
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How funny would it be if we held out for the center that we wanted and it ended up being Oden. He never signs with OSU because of the sanctions and ends up committing to play here for one year. I feel bad for Conley and Oden now that the AD is coming out with this...wait...no I don't.
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NazT Deac
Lord of the Dance
OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 2:51:55 pm**** **
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i'll save osu posters the time and say, "it's nothing we aren't already expecting." and "we won't be banned from psost-season."
great quote by the osu AD:
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"We have to get to a point where we eliminate NCAA infractions that are intentional. Two, we have to minimize our behavioral issues that we have had. You're not going to eliminate them; it's unrealistic to think that. But we should not have as many as we've had."
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hey! sounds like a great plan moving forward!
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HLynn
6th Man
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Posted: 7/1/05 2:53:57 pm**** **
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"We know we are going to cheat, but we should try to keep it under the radar".
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NazT Deac
Lord of the Dance
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Posted: 7/1/05 2:56:09 pm**** **
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yes, if they called skip back today, i would hope skip would say he really appreciates it, but we already have a PG now. would love to have those 2 playing ball for WF, but not at the expense of ish. he's a deacon now and we take care of our guys.
would love to see them at indiana or mich state.
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reginator
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That's a great quote Naz
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otowndeac
Waterboy
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Posted: 7/1/05 2:57:22 pm**** **
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I was in a conversation with a guy last night who drives 7 hours to every home game for OSU football. I then started talking about OCC. He looked shocked and said he'd have to jump on the internet and check that out. Maybe with the class of '06, the fans will start paying attention.
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VaDeac
Starter
Re: OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 2:58:30 pm**** **
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well, i'd hope he'd take the big fella if he could cut the umbilical cord with conley.
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PhDeac
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Even if OSU received some drastic penalty which caused MC and GO to rethink their choice (about .01% chance of that happening), not sure that they would choose WF even if Skip had available scholarships in the Fall. Those two had every reason to come to WF, and did not. WF is dead to them, and they are dead to us.
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Izzo is just waiting to pick up the pieces.
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yes, if they called skip back today, i would hope skip would say he really appreciates it, but we already have a PG now. would love to have those 2 playing ball for WF, but not at the expense of ish. he's a deacon now and we take care of our guys.
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Of course, this reminds me of my analogy on the premium boards that Conley/Oden is like Eliza Dushku being 50/50 for me vs. wakefan and throwing in fooling around with the French news chick for awhile. Well, I'd like to me the guy who would stick with his nice sweet petite girlfriend when Eliza comes back calling a few months later. Skip would give it some serious thought.
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94Deac
All-American
Re: OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 3:05:27 pm**** **
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Still, somewhere in our collective minds, we have to be asking how OSU, facing what they're facing, lands these two over Wake. We're obviously biased and there's locality considerations, but nonetheless, it's baffling. Did we forget deodorant this month??!?
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bishop85
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OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 3:09:45 pm**** **
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can anyone say post season ban???
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Pilchard
Team Captain
Re: OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 3:11:23 pm**** **
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It would be impossible for any coach to turn down Greg Oden. So, if he comes knocking, Skip will let him in.
My point is that I just don't that these kids want to go to WF. I agree that if something caused them to rethink the OSU choice that it would be Indiana or MSU or some other Midwest school, but just don't see any scenario where they are choosing WF.
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webeballn
Waterboy
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Posted: 7/1/05 3:13:23 pm**** **
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Did Conley or Oden ever address the possibility of sanctions?
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WindyCityDeac
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Posted: 7/1/05 3:13:57 pm**** **
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Still, somewhere in our collective minds, we have to be asking how OSU, facing what they're facing, lands these two over Wake. We're obviously biased and there's locality considerations, but nonetheless, it's baffling. Did we forget deodorant this month??!?
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We didn't send the envelope to Daequan. O$U did...
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PhDeac
All-American
OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 3:14:20 pm**** **
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Yes. They basically said they were told they wouldn't be a factor.
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deacfreak
Waterboy
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Posted: 7/1/05 3:15:52 pm**** **
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I think we all know something went on at OSU to get OC. Cook was unfortunately understandable. But, we must find solace in the fact that Skip will not stoop to the level of others. He will keep Wake a place we are all proud to have been a part of and that we are proud to continue to support.
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rgordon504
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Posted: 7/1/05 3:21:40 pm**** **
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to all the posters who keep talking about how osu fans havnt even heard of oden/conley,
guess what? lots of wake fans havnt either. not everyone follows high school recruiting from the time the kids are 16
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WindyCityDeac
Team Captain
OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 3:22:21 pm**** **
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and i sure haven't heard of most of our Football recruits
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RiskyBusiness
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Posted: 7/1/05 3:22:53 pm**** **
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guess what? lots of wake fans havnt either. not everyone follows high school recruiting from the time the kids are 16
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MichDeac24
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Posted: 7/1/05 3:26:08 pm**** **
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I keep seeing references to shady things Matta has done. But they're simply references. Do we have a serious reason to believe that Matta was slamming Prosser, behaving unethically, or doing something in violation of NCAA rules?
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94Deac
All-American
Re: OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 3:27:16 pm**** **
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rgordon: part of being a fan is following who your team wants. At least being an "active fan."
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Pilchard
Team Captain
Re: OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 3:27:29 pm**** **
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Ohio State is massive. In addition, Columbus is a large city that treats OSU as its home town sports team. Even if only a fraction of OSU fans care about hoop, there is still plenty of people to fill their new arena. I agree that there are many reasons that WF would've been a better choice than OSU, but the football school versus the basketball school argument is not one of them.
Conley, and especially Oden, will get plenty of love and adulation on the OSU campus even if OSU is a football school.
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rgordon504
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OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 3:37:51 pm**** **
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well 94 believe or not but not everyone posts on sports message boards or has high school recruiting memberships. i just dont buy the argument that they wont get love there. if thats your way of coping with the fact we lost them then fine keep doing it i guess
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PhDeac
All-American
OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 3:39:55 pm**** **
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Let's put it like this. There wasn't an up to the minute thread on Bucknuts about their visit to OSU and there probably won't be a 100 post thread when Conley or Oden returns to campus 10 years after they leave.
That's love.
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rgordon504
Starter
OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 3:41:24 pm**** **
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maybe they would have been appreciated more here but i doubt that was their number one priority when choosing between us and them
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3SistersDeac
Rookie
Re: OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 3:43:57 pm**** **
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Gee, where are all those bucknut lurker types now?
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SafareeClub
6th Man
Re: OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 3:47:49 pm**** **
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agreed, rgordon. If being loved and worshiped by the masses and having your sport as #1 on campus, then we should never expect to get a decent football recruit again.
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ManhassetDeac
Starter
OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 3:55:15 pm**** **
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I stopped in our parking deck to talk to a guy who drives a Jeep with an OSU tire cover on the back. I have talked to him before about sports and wanted to congratulate him on their recruiting coup. He had no idea who Oden/Conley were. He asked if they were top football recruits. No, he was not joking around. I just smiled empathetically and drove off.
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You could have had that same conversation with a random WFU grad on the side of the road and he probably wouldn't know who they were either
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Renfield
6th Man
Re: OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 3:56:00 pm**** **
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You reckon Matta and the AD told OC before they verballed that they expected further sanctions? Funny how this comes out the next day.
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DemanDeac
Team Captain
Re: OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 4:14:45 pm**** **
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Let me add that I don't think Matta did anything illegal to get OCC to come to OSU. Unethical or negative recruiting can be considered a matter of opinion but using my personal criteria of negative and what I know from what some recruits said, he did use some negative recruiting against Wake Forest IMO. Please do not EZ me because I can not and will not tell you what was said. This is the last time I will make any comment on Mike Conley, Greg Oden, or Ohio State because they matter not one bit to me anymore and it is time for all of us to move on and let their chips fall where they may.
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SirDeacsAlot
Starter
OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 4:15:05 pm**** **
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Would we still take Oden and Conley if they changed their minds? A 6 player class in 2006 w/ 2 pg's?
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EatLeadCommie
Team Captain
OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 4:18:11 pm**** **
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If you check the record books on the finalfour.net website, they still list Michigan's Final Four appearances and box scores. The NCAA can't take away a Final Four.
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I believe they have in the past. Memphis State in 1985 comes to mind.
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CallowaySlave
Starter
Re: OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 4:32:03 pm**** **
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Would we still take Oden and Conley if they changed their minds? A 6 player class in 2006 w/ 2 pg's?
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They won't change their minds, but I'd hope that Skip would accept Oden immediately if he became available.
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Tripol
Recruit
OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 4:37:58 pm**** **
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Do you people realize that the NCAA could hand down a sanction as tough as they did with Baylor (mind you that is very unlikely) and it would never effect OSU during the time Oden and Conley play at OSU?
It is widely held that the worst that could happen to OSU is another post season ban this season, the loss of 1 or 2 scholarships (mind you for 1 year and taken over a few seasons), and the removal of banners from the arena. And that's worst case for OSU. None of that even effects Oden & company. Did anyone notice they just got another top 100 guy today (Chichester 6-8 210). OSU is clearly almost in the clear with the NCAA and coming out of it smelling like roses because they made a great hire in Matta. Good for them.
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tiltdeac
6th Man
Re: OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 4:39:06 pm**** **
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OSU is clearly almost in the clear with the NCAA
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osu4brutus03
Recruit
Re: OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 4:43:50 pm**** **
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Why are you guys over here trying to hate on The Ohio State University. Wake doesn't have anything on The Ohio State University. Instead of hating on a great university.... be happy for the process we have made.
Go Bucks
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KidA23
All-Conference
Re: OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 4:45:25 pm**** **
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be happy for the process we have made
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Must have been a very difficult progress to come up with this statement.
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PhDeac
All-American
OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 4:59:29 pm**** **
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I believe they have in the past. Memphis State in 1985 comes to mind.
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If it comes to mind, then the NCAA didn't go back in time and erase it. The Final Four happened. No matter what they do, it happened. I bet if you go to the Final Four website, it will have evidence that the game happened.
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Zman32
Recruit
Re: OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 5:24:50 pm**** **
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You guys really need to get over this. It seems like an obsession with some of you. Oden and Conley clearly stated they liked OSU better, and not for the reasons you want to believe. You're making yourselves look bad, really bad.
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DemanDeac
Team Captain
Re: OSU AD expects further sanctions
Posted: 7/1/05 5:46:34 pm**** **
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I agree that this is past history and we need to focus our energy on schools that matter, the ACC. But this comment
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Oden and Conley clearly stated they liked OSU better, and not for the reasons you want to believe.
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is questionable. The ONLY reason they are going to OSU instead of Wake is geography, which is exactly why Thaddeus Young, Vernon Macklin or any other big man from the south is not going to OSU. Your advantage is negated outside of the midwest.
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It's painfully obvious how new they are to the recruiting process... at least on a national scale for elite players. They don't even realize that geography is often a turnoff but not a roadblock to recruits.
Doesn't really match up well with their claims that they are an elite school... does it?
Doesn't really match up well with their claims that they are an elite school... does it?
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OSUBasketballJunkie
Never Forget 31-0
They just can't seem to realize that they are not considered an elite school compared to OSU.....the kids just felt comfortable with Matta...thats it, there coach didnt get it done. End of story
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Now that the reality has set in and the more intelligent posters are telling the teenagers to move on...
we are seeing many more posts admitting that Wake has stunk it up in the postseason, makes no adjustments on defense, are not as elite as was suggested the last few months, and that Matta + OSU is clearly an attractive combo.
we are seeing many more posts admitting that Wake has stunk it up in the postseason, makes no adjustments on defense, are not as elite as was suggested the last few months, and that Matta + OSU is clearly an attractive combo.
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Wake Forest = Piss Poor sister of Duke and UNC, fighting with NCSt to stay out of the basement in their own state.
Fucking losers.
Fucking losers.
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scott91575
Resident hater
Hey, Wake got their PG. A dude that weighs about 2 paper clips and is a 2 star guard. Sweeeeeeet!!! They act like he is the next coming of Magic Johnson.
All I can say is they actually accepted me on that board. I will not post. I shall not post for about two years. Then, when they are at their worst. Right after they can't get an NIT bid...I will throw a huge post about everything. Revenge is best served cold, and those sorry asses need to know their place.
Of course they will talk about how great an education Wake is. Kiss my ass. I make more than 99% of those assholes, and I went to Ohio State!
All I can say is they actually accepted me on that board. I will not post. I shall not post for about two years. Then, when they are at their worst. Right after they can't get an NIT bid...I will throw a huge post about everything. Revenge is best served cold, and those sorry asses need to know their place.
Of course they will talk about how great an education Wake is. Kiss my ass. I make more than 99% of those assholes, and I went to Ohio State!
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OSUBasketballJunkie
Never Forget 31-0
Its just my opinion, but why pour salt on their wounds...they found out the truth the hard way.....
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