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Ummm... that's cute.

It'd be nice to have more students in the good seats, but those seats are already going to the people who collectively fronted the millions of dollars necessary to build the place. As much as it sucks in some respects, they deserve their reward. The Schott wouldn't even exist if not for those people.

I can tell you this... Gene Smith doesn't give a hoot about an online petition - unless you're gonna PayPal at least a few hundred thousand bones to go along with it.
 
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jlb1705 said:
Ummm... that's cute.

It'd be nice to have more students in the good seats, but those seats are already going to the people who collectively fronted the millions of dollars necessary to build the place. As much as it sucks in some respects, they deserve their reward. The Schott wouldn't even exist if not for those people.

I can tell you this... Gene Smith doesn't give a hoot about an online petition - unless you're gonna PayPal at least a few hundred thousand bones to go along with it.
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That is thing I don't understand. These peole have to know that homecourt advantage is to our teams benefit, so if they were gracious enough to fork out the money to put the place up why don't they act like they care, instead of acting like they paid a lot of money for a cozy seat.

There is no question about it that something has to be done to get the students on the floor.
 
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jlb1705 said:
Ummm... that's cute.

It'd be nice to have more students in the good seats, but those seats are already going to the people who collectively fronted the millions of dollars necessary to build the place. As much as it sucks in some respects, they deserve their reward. The Schott wouldn't even exist if not for those people.

I can tell you this... Gene Smith doesn't give a hoot about an online petition - unless you're gonna PayPal at least a few hundred thousand bones to go along with it.
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I agree. However, if they truly care about Buckeye Basketball, they would want it to be a true Home-court advantage for the bucks.
 
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jlb1705 said:
Ummm... that's cute.

It'd be nice to have more students in the good seats, but those seats are already going to the people who collectively fronted the millions of dollars necessary to build the place. As much as it sucks in some respects, they deserve their reward. The Schott wouldn't even exist if not for those people.
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I doubt our boosters busted their piggy bank to pay for a 130 million dollar church that has an average home court record. Unless that is we aspire to be the "big house" of basketball, in which case ill remember to bring my keys and pop tab filled water bottles to the next home game. That would be really cute.

The issue at hand shouldn't deal with who gets the best seats in the house. What is needed is a larger concentrated, student section. Not the little high school cheer block we currently have. Between football and basketball I can't think of a school with worse student seating than what OSU. It's pathetic.

Is it really too much to ask to put the students in one area? Every other school can do it, but we can't? ND and Florida for example put all of their students in one place, I would venture to say given the sizes of their stadiums, tickets are at a greater premium. If you look at the two major college sports, basketball and football, most would agree that Duke and UF are the toughest environments to visit, in their respective sports. Oh and where do they place their students again? Oh yeah thats right, Duke puts all their students on the entire lower half of the arena, Florida reserves an entire side adjacent to the visitors bench, fancy that. Quantity is a quality all its own, give the students a student section, and a large one. We don't need the best seats in the house, or even the second best, just good enough so our presence is truly felt.
 
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Recently AD Gene Smith was on 1460 the fan and was asked about the atmosphere at the Schott.

They discussed moving faculty out of some sections and moving in students, sort of starting under the basket and wrapping around to mid court. The issue of the price difference in those seats for the students was discussed. I think there will be some changes before next season, but it really falls on the fans to attend the games and make some noise. A better n/c schedule would help, but also a change in ticket options could be an influence.
 
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I dont think its an issue of where the students sit. Its just the issue of getting students to go to the games. Ive been to games at the Schott where the crowd has been CRAZY, but I have also been to games where the student seating isnt even filled up. People like to compare the schott to St. John arena. Let me just say, having been to many games at SJA, its not like it was the Breslin center or anything.

Sadly, we need to face the fact that we are a football school. I dont think its possible for the students to get up for a basketball game like they do for a football game. Sure, they will get up if we are a top 5 team, or if we are playing in a huge game, but we just cant expect the students to be amped and excited about playing Penn State, or Florida A&M.

Show me a school who has both a rowdy basketball crowd and a rowdy football crowd. It's usually either one or the other. Duke, UNC, Illinois and MSU have shitty football crowds, OSU, Michigan, LSU, and Tennessee have shitty basketball crowds. I can only think of a handful of schools that have even close to the amount of intensity for both sports. Maybe Wisconsin, Maybe Florida, Maybe Texas... Most of the time, you are either a Football school, or a Basketball school.
 
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I think they could stand to move the faculty out, but not any season ticket holders, alumni, or donors.

Out of all those schools that people keep mentioning, how many are still trying to pay the mortgage on a new facility? The revenue generated from ticket sales is crucial, and giving more of your best seats to students at a steeply discounted rate hinders the ability for the athletic department to pay off bond debt from construction of the arena. I haven't researched it, but I'm pretty sure that the other institutions that people are throwing out there aren't still paying for their facilities.

Also, out of all those "intimidating environments" - how many of them belong to shitty teams? The best way to intimidate your opponent is to become a good basketball team, and build a tradition of sustained excellence. Make other teams fear the jersey and the players in it. I think people put the cart before the horse when it comes to this sometimes.

I'm also interested to know how many people who keep crying for more students in the lower bowl are actually students? Most of the people I've known who made this argument just had a misplaced sense of entitlement that made them think that a freshman with a discount ticket should be sitting behind the bench. I know - I was one of those people back in 1999-00.

Don't get me wrong - I'd love to see that place get louder - I just think OSU has damn good reasons for having things situated like they are right now. Also, my "that was cute" comment was not directed toward that idea, but rather toward the idea of an online petition. Those things are a freakin' joke.
 
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Were any of you at the Michigan State game? That was better than any college basketball game I've seen recently as far as crowd intensity. They passed out all those towels to everyone before the game and they were all waving like crazy. All the way into double OT...nobody left. When there is a big game to be played, Columbus knows how to give it a show. Illinois last year? The real problem here is the fact that this is a football haven. Fans don't know how to act at basketball games and haven't had a reason to be excited in the recent past. With Thad and his amazing recruiting, OSU basketball is getting fun. The fans will follow.
 
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jlb1705 said:
Ummm... that's cute.

It'd be nice to have more students in the good seats, but those seats are already going to the people who collectively fronted the millions of dollars necessary to build the place. As much as it sucks in some respects, they deserve their reward. The Schott wouldn't even exist if not for those people.
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Honestly, I wish the Schott didn't exist. As so many have eloquently put it, Ohio State is not a basketball school. So why did we have to build a pro-style facility a decent walk away from the students and reasonable parking?

And I'm really tired of the "students won't go to the game" talk. When I was at OState, they would only let me get half-a-season of basketball tickets at the Schott. I had to use my apathetic roommate to get the other half. There are plenty of students that were willing to go to the games. But:

1. The Athletic Department does a terrible job of informing them when tickets go on sale and

2. They hinder their ability to get good seats to all of the games.
 
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I'd like to point out another flaw.

I have plenty of friends who would like to attend the basketball games, but don't

They are being charged $17 a ticket!

I know our football tickets are nearly $30 but seriously, for an event lasting under two hours and doesn't have nearly the popularity. You can't be charging students that kind of $. Start with $8-10 dollar tickets.
 
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Golferdow01 said:
I'd like to point out another flaw.

I have plenty of friends who would like to attend the basketball games, but don't

They are being charged $17 a ticket!

I know our football tickets are nearly $30 but seriously, for an event lasting under two hours and doesn't have nearly the popularity. You can't be charging students that kind of $. Start with $8-10 dollar tickets.
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If we were a basketball school, they could get away with charging that much, but like I said, we're not.
 
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I think the petiton itself can be written better and have a foundation not based on a player that will be here for brief amount of time in the grand scheme of the schott. The last basketball game i was too was when we had ken johnson blocking shots. I'm not a big college basketball guy until march usually because of our recent teams being average. I've been caught up in the nba(which is ass) lately and this year have been following the team. But back to my point, when we were good with ken johnson and co. that place was loud as hell.
 
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You can't be charging students that kind of $. Start with $8-10 dollar tickets.
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That is one of the concerns AD Smith talked about on 1460 recently. The issue of moving the students closer to the floor and reduce the price of those tickets for the students and how to recoup the difference from the faculty who will be moved. Its a tough situation.

They understand the issues, they need to make the tough choices or at least be willing to meet the students half way.

1. The Athletic Department does a terrible job of informing them when tickets go on sale and
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I agree that the AD could improve in this area.
 
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