ttun Shenanigans, Arguments, and Emasculated Cucks (2019 thread)

[NFBuck]

This is absolute Schadenfreude overload.

I have gallons of Gatorade and a commercial-sized container of Vaseline Intensive Care. Don't stop.

 

[Dryden]

Gerd wasn’t lying.

https://mgoblue.com/news/2019/9/21/football-player-participation-michigan-at-wisconsin.aspx

They played a grand total of 6 DL in a 60 minute game.

Against Wisconsin.

 

[buckeyemania11]

Gerd wasn’t lying.

https://mgoblue.com/news/2019/9/21/football-player-participation-michigan-at-wisconsin.aspx

They played a grand total of 6 DL in a 60 minute game.

Against Wisconsin.

Aubrey Solomon transfer was killer

Luiji Vilain who was a top 10 DE and top 100 overall player in the same class has struggled to even get on the field let alone produce

Besides Aidan Hutchinson from the 18 class, all Dline from the 17/18 classes are what youd probably consider developmental players......which Harbaugh and Co have not specifically been great at...and you dont want to have to rely on those types to pan out as a supposed top program

Verdict is still out on the 19 class. You have Hinton and Mazi Smith who were both higher rated dlinement. Besides that everyone else falls into that developmental catergory of guys ranked like 300th+ in the class.

Gonna be a rough few years for their dline.

 

[Zurp]

Thrice.

scUM Minister of Propaganda, John Ü Bacon, is still whining about the 1974 Game - he claims that Mike Shanktry's final FG attempt was good, but "those refs knew where they were reffing, they were reffing in Columbus that day, and that mattered."

I was born in 1976, so I didn't see that play live. And the only footage I've found is not a good view. But seeing as the referees say it was no good, and I've read several people on this board (and at least two in this thread) say that the kick was wide. Good enough for me.

What about 1972? Again, not a play I saw live, and I think the only footage I've seen was not down the line, but I've heard that Michigan fans insist that their guy god the ball over the goal line, got pushed back, got the ball over the goal line AGAIN, and got pushed back again. Turnover on downs, Buckeye ball. Referees say it, and it's good enough for me.

 

[buckeyemania11]

https://www.mgoblog.com/mgoboard/why-oh-why-can't-we-live

The more stats I look at the more I wonder why we can't we have this. It's so frustrating that we're just so bad in comparison. I want an explosive offense. I would love a semi-explosive offense. I want a school that true top tier talent wants to come to because they really believe we can win. I want to live like this!

 

[gmen6981]

X-Post from the Valenti Gold thread:

STOP! STOP! I only have so much!!!!

 

[gmen6981]

Side note: since that miss kept the final score at 12-10, the Buckeyes proved that day that it's possible to only score with field goals and beat an opponent that scored a touchdown.

Thank Woody THAT'S finally settled!

 

[NFBuck]

Aubrey Solomon transfer was killer

Luiji Vilain who was a top 10 DE and top 100 overall player in the same class has struggled to even get on the field let alone produce

Besides Aidan Hutchinson from the 18 class, all Dline from the 17/18 classes are what youd probably consider developmental players......which Harbaugh and Co have not specifically been great at...and you dont want to have to rely on those types to pan out as a supposed top program

Verdict is still out on the 19 class. You have Hinton and Mazi Smith who were both higher rated dlinement. Besides that everyone else falls into that developmental catergory of guys ranked like 300th+ in the class.

Gonna be a rough few years for their dline.

Jim Harbaugh went to Ann Arbor with a rockstar reputation and came with 3 bullet points that were gonna turn their program around and make them a national power. We're in year five, let's review:

• Blue-chip recruits were gonna be tripping over themselves to play for him. False. He is currently working on his sixth recruiting class; nationally they've finished 37, 8, 5, 22, 8 and are sitting at 11 about 2/3 into the 2020 cycle. On the surface, those rankings are decent, if a little short of the dynamic recruiting they expected. A deeper dive shows those rankings are largely volume related and have lacked star power. In 6 years, he's signed 5 (per 247) 5* and 16 top 100 recruits (or a hair under 3 a year). In that same period, tOSU has signed 15 5* and 50 top-100 kids. That's a slaughter.
• He was going to turn around their woeful QB play from the previous decade. False. In year five, he has yet to recruit a kid that has anything resembling a positive impact. The only Harbaugh recruit to start for them was Brandon Peters (Andrew Luck 2.0!), and he was absolutely ineffective. Outside of that, he's relied on a Hoke recruit (Speight), who was a game manager at best, an Iowa transfer who was a solid game manager in year one, a Houston transfer (O'Korn) who was trash and now a Mississippi transfer who was mediocre his first year and looks lost in his second. His QBs have shown an alarming tendency to get injured, despite rarely relying on their legs: Rudock against tOSU, Speight got hurt and ceded to Peters who got hurt allowing Patterson to win the job who has seemingly been "banged up" his entire tenure. Patterson appeared to be benched for McCaffey (savior 26), who promptly got...wait for it...injured. his QB development has been Sisciliano-esque. The QB Whisperer stuff was and remains a myth.
• He was going to make them competitive in big games and a national power. False. The numbers are well documented at this point. 0-4 against tOSU, 1-3 in Bowls, 1-16 against top-10 teams. That is embarrassing. Hoke was better. There's no argument. They get ran every time they step on the field with a quality appointment. Last weekend was just the capstone on 5 years of failure.

 

[heisman]

Have they changed the rules on targeting again? Saw the hit that gave McCaffrey the concussion. He was a runner, on a called QB run, and took a shoulder to the head, no helmet to helmet. Happens pretty much on every running play.

 

[BB73]

I agree completely with everything you said except for the bolded part. I was directly behind the upright and am quite certain I was the first to scream, "It's wide!" I am 100% certain I was the first one to hug the young lady next to me (who I had never seen before that day) and pick her up.

Let's call it a tie.

 

[heisman]

Jim Harbaugh went to Ann Arbor with a rockstar reputation and came with 3 bullet points that were gonna turn their program around and make them a national power. We're in year five, let's review:

• Blue-chip recruits were gonna be tripping over themselves to play for him. False. He is currently working on his sixth recruiting class; nationally they've finished 37, 8, 5, 22, 8 and are sitting at 11 about 2/3 into the 2020 cycle. On the surface, those rankings are decent, if a little short of the dynamic recruiting they expected. A deeper dive shows those rankings are largely volume related and have lacked star power. In 6 years, he's signed 5 (per 247) 5* and 16 top 100 recruits (or a hair under 3 a year) in six years. In that same period, tOSU has signed 15 5* and 50 top-100 kids. That's a slaughter.
• He was going to turn around their woeful QB play from the previous decade. False. In year five, he has yet to recruit a kid that has anything resembling a positive impact. The only Harbaugh recruit to start for them was Brandon Peters (Andrew Luck 2.0!), and he was absolutely ineffective. Outside of that, he's relied on a Hoke recruit (Speight), who was a game manager at best, an Iowa transfer who was a solid game manager in year one, a Houston transfer (O'Korn) who was trash and now a Mississippi transfer who was mediocre his first year and looks lost in his second. His QBs have shown an alarming tendency to get injured, despite rarely relying on their legs: Rudock against tOSU, Speight got hurt and ceded to Peters who got hurt allowing Patterson to win the job who has seemingly been "banged up" his entire tenure.P appeared to be benched for McCaffey (savior 26), who promptly got...wait for it...injured. his QB development has been Sisciliano-esque. The QB Whisperer stuff was and remains a myth.
• He was going to make them competitive in big games and a national power. False. The numbers are well documented at this point. 0-4 against tOSU, 1-3 in Bowls, 1-16 against top-10 teams. That is embarrassing. Hoke was better. There's no argument. They get ran every time they step on the field with a quality appointment. Last weekend was just the capstone on 5 years of failure.

These idiots have Jordan Glasgow playing at the line of scrimmage. Straight up morons.

 

[LordJeffBuck]

Aubrey Solomon transfer was killer.

Transferred from a bad dumpster fire to a worse dumpster fire. It's beyond me why any five-star kid would consider programs like Michigan or Tennessee when they're basically guaranteed success (on the field and developmentally) at places like Ohio State, Alabama, Clemson, Georgia, Oklahoma, Louisiana State, Notre Dame.

Luiji Vilain who was a top 10 DE and top 100 overall player in the same class has struggled to even get on the field let alone produce.

Vilain and his high school teammate, Patrice Rene, both wanted Buckeye offers (especially Rene). Ohio State passed on both. Rene was having a pretty good career at UNC until he tore his ACL earlier this year. Vilain has been a complete stiff.

Besides Aidan Hutchinson from the 18 class, all Dline from the 17/18 classes are what youd probably consider developmental players......which Harbaugh and Co have not specifically been great at...and you dont want to have to rely on those types to pan out as a supposed top program.

Hutchinson was about the only scUM player who looked decent against Wisconsin. He might be a rotational guy at Ohio State. Might not.

The rest of the 2017/2018 DL:

James Hudson - transferred to Cincinnati
Corey Malone-Hatcher - retired for medical reasons
Kwity Paye - looked awful against Wisconsin (as did 2016 reach Carlo Kemp)
Phillip Paea, Donovan Jeter, Taylor Upshaw, Julius Welschof - combined ZERO tackles in 3 games

Verdict is still out on the 19 class. You have Hinton and Mazi Smith who were both higher rated dlinement. Besides that everyone else falls into that developmental catergory of guys ranked like 300th+ in the class.

5-star DT Chris Hinton has ZERO tackles on the season. Ohio State walk-on DT Zaid Hamdan (about 9th on the depth chart) had three tackles vs Miami.

4-star DL Mazi Smith has not played. Translation: He can't beat out the aforementioned Paea, Jeter, Upshaw, and Welschof, who also aren't playing much (if at all).

By the way, the latest scUM savior, 5-star DB Daxton Hill, has one assisted tackle on the season.

Gonna be a rough few years for their dline.

What a shame!

 

[NFBuck]

Transferred from a bad dumpster fire to a worse dumpster fire. It's beyond me why any five-star kid would consider programs like Michigan or Tennessee when they're basically guaranteed success (on the field and developmentally) at places like Ohio State, Alabama, Clemson, Georgia, Oklahoma, Louisiana State, Notre Dame.


Vilain and his high school teammate, Patrice Rene, both wanted Buckeye offers (especially Rene). Ohio State passed on both. Rene was having a pretty good career at UNC until he tore his ACL earlier this year. Vilain has been a complete stiff.


Hutchinson was about the only scUM player who looked decent against Wisconsin. He might be a rotational guy at Ohio State. Might not.

The rest of the 2017/2018 DL:

James Hudson - transferred to Cincinnati
Corey Malone-Hatcher - retired for medical reasons
Kwity Paye - looked awful against Wisconsin (as did 2016 reach Carlo Kemp)
Phillip Paea, Donovan Jeter, Taylor Upshaw, Julius Welschof - combined ZERO tackles in 3 games


5-star DT Chris Hinton has ZERO tackles on the season. Ohio State walk-on DT Zaid Hamdan (about 9th on the depth chart) had three tackles vs Miami.

4-star DL Mazi Smith has not played. Translation: He can't beat out the aforementioned Paea, Jeter, Upshaw, and Welschof, who also aren't playing much (if at all).

By the way, the latest scUM savior, 5-star DB Daxton Hill, has one assisted tackle on the season.


What a shame!

I was just about to comment on their 2019 DLs. If Hinton or Mazi Smith were worth a damn, they'd be on the field with the tomato cans ahead of them. Most frosh DL that are actually good are at least solid rotational pieces on good DLs. Those two can't see the field with 6 turds in front of them. It would seem that losing Mattison and Washington was a much bigger loss than they tried to sell it.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Ohio State walk-on DT Zaid Hamdan (about 9th on the depth chart) had three tackles vs Miami.

Dude was fired up after each one, too.

 

[Oh8ch]

He was going to turn around their woeful QB play from the previous decade. False. In year five, he has yet to recruit a kid that has anything resembling a positive impact. The only Harbaugh recruit to start for them was Brandon Peters (Andrew Luck 2.0!), and he was absolutely ineffective. Outside of that, he's relied on a Hoke recruit (Speight), who was a game manager at best, an Iowa transfer who was a solid game manager in year one, a Houston transfer (O'Korn) who was trash and now a Mississippi transfer who was mediocre his first year and looks lost in his second. His QBs have shown an alarming tendency to get injured, despite rarely relying on their legs: Rudock against tOSU, Speight got hurt and ceded to Peters who got hurt allowing Patterson to win the job who has seemingly been "banged up" his entire tenure. Patterson appeared to be benched for McCaffey (savior 26), who promptly got...wait for it...injured. his QB development has been Sisciliano-esque. The QB Whisperer stuff was and remains a myth.

Peters at UM threw for 4 TDs and had 3 interceptions.

At a resurgent Illinois he has 10 passing TDs vs 3 interceptions and has also run for two TDs.

Whose the QB whisperer now?