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ttun Shenanigans, Arguments, and Emasculated Cucks (2019 thread)

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kujirakira said:
Coaching ineptitude is most likely scenario imo.
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Looking at their entire staff.

Harbaugh is Harbaugh, it’s been covered.

Don Brown (DC) has an extensive resume and is an adequate defensive coordinator. I think it’s pretty clearly established at this point that his basic schemes and gameplans are no match versus elite or even above average talent with a half decent game plan.

Josh Gattis (OC) is completely unproven as an offensive coordinator and appears to be a total disaster thus far. I can’t imagine Harbaugh not meddling and insisting on power ball plays constantly, especially in tight games, immediately fucking up any chance of implementing a more dynamic offense if Gattis was capable of that in the first place.

Anthony Campanile (LB) was coaching HS less than a decade ago, split time coaching offense and defense at Rutgers and Boston College, and last coached specifically LBs in HS. Is it worth having a position coach with next to no meaningful experience much less proven experience at the college level to pull a few NJ prospects?

Jay Harbaugh (RB/Special Teams) is nepotism personified and hasn’t held a meaningful job that wasn’t with his dad or uncle in his life. His bio write-up is humorously long and filled with meaningless garbage- like they know full well he has accomplished nothing and are overcompensating.

Ben McDaniels (QB) has only coached at one place for more than a single season twice in his career, each time for only two years, and has only had “quarterbacks” attached to his coaching responsibilities for two of those years prior to his current stop.

Sherrone Moore (TE) has a two year stint at Louisville and a four year stint at Central Michigan as the TEs coach before coming to Michigan in 2018. That’s.It.

Shaun Nua (DL) coached DL at Navy for six years and Arizona State for one year before coming to Michigan in 2019. That’s. It.

Chris Patridge’s (S/special teams) resume sucks so bad they don’t even list it out by year on the athletic website, but he’s been the special teams coordinator for four season at Michigan and was hired from his HS coaching gig for the sole purpose of landing Jabrill Peppers.

We’re all well aware of Ed Warinner’s (OL) backstory.

Michael Zordich (CB) has coached at Youngstown State for three seasons (in two sepeteate stints), the Eagles for four seasons, and has been with Michigan since 2016. That’s. It. Although he seems like he’s probably halfway decent at his job.

So... I think their coaching staff is really, really underwhelming and it’s not even up for debate. Do they complain about this? I feel like they should complain about this.
 
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Buckeye86 said:
Looking at their entire staff.

Harbaugh is Harbaugh, it’s been covered.

Don Brown (DC) has an extensive resume and is an adequate defensive coordinator. I think it’s pretty clearly established at this point that his basic schemes and gameplans are no match versus elite or even above average talent with a half decent game plan.

Josh Gattis (OC) is completely unproven as an offensive coordinator and appears to be a total disaster thus far. I can’t imagine Harbaugh not meddling and insisting on power ball plays constantly, especially in tight games, immediately fucking up any chance of implementing a more dynamic offense if Gattis was capable of that in the first place.

Anthony Campanile (LB) was coaching HS less than a decade ago, split time coaching offense and defense at Rutgers and Boston College, and last coached specifically LBs in HS. Is it worth having a position coach with next to no meaningful experience much less proven experience at the college level to pull a few NJ prospects?

Jay Harbaugh (RB/Special Teams) is nepotism personified and hasn’t held a meaningful job that wasn’t with his dad or uncle in his life. His bio write-up is humorously long and filled with meaningless garbage- like they know full well he has accomplished nothing and are overcompensating.

Ben McDaniels (QB) has only coached at one place for more than a single season twice in his career, each time for only two years, and has only had “quarterbacks” attached to his coaching responsibilities for two of those years prior to his current stop.

Sherrone Moore (TE) has a two year stint at Louisville and a four year stint at Central Michigan as the TEs coach before coming to Michigan in 2018. That’s.It.

Shaun Nua (DL) coached DL at Navy for six years and Arizona State for one year before coming to Michigan in 2019. That’s. It.

Chris Patridge’s (S/special teams) resume sucks so bad they don’t even list it out by year on the athletic website, but he’s been the special teams coordinator for four season at Michigan and was hired from his HS coaching gig for the sole purpose of landing Jabrill Peppers.

We’re all well aware of Ed Warinner’s (OL) backstory.

Michael Zordich (CB) has coached at Youngstown State for three seasons (in two sepeteate stints), the Eagles for four seasons, and has been with Michigan since 2016. That’s. It. Although he seems like he’s probably halfway decent at his job.

So... I think their coaching staff is really, really underwhelming and it’s not even up for debate. Do they complain about this? I feel like they should complain about this.
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I didn’t realize how thoroughly underwhelming that staff was until you laid it out. Holy fuck monkeys. The two best coaches Harbrau ever had are now in Columbus. That is fucking awesome.
 
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Taosman said:
Unlike pro teams college football teams only have their current roster to look for possible "answers" in better players. It's been 3 games and TSUN may not have many "answers". Charbonet may not be healthy this season. And they don't have much else at running-back. And QB? Maybe McCaffree might be the "answer" at QB but I don't see any "whispering" going on. Then there is the defense? A lack of leadership is showing and maybe the loss of Al Washington and Matterson was a big loss for them? They will take their lumps this year and be better next year.........maybe. They are probably a 8-9 win team this year.
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My theory is Washington and Mattison saw what talent was coming back as well as knew what they had coming in recruiting for the next few years. They knew Brown wasn't going to change his ways and they knew he didn't have the horses to run that kind of system.

They bailed because the show is over. The "show" being 9 wins.
 
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Dryden said:
I almost feel bad for Deace. Almost.

Mans face is a factory of sadness and pain right now.
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I’ve always liked Deace, well as much as you can like a scUM fan. He was always balanced back when GBW had him on as a guest columnist. In fact, I think he was Booted by the Beav for being too negative towards dickrod. He’s generally pretty level-headed and rarely plays the lame excuse playlist the rest of the DFBIA plays.
 
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NFBuck said:
We’re seeing more and more of this as they’re coming to the realization that this is just who they are...a program with a 10-3 ceiling who doesn’t have a place at the big boy table. And they’re at that realization because Jim Harbaugh was the guy. If he can’t get them over the hump, who can?
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tOSU went 34 years between National Championships before Tress beat Miami. So dry spells happen to the best of us. And then a program hits pay dirt with a Tress and Urban - or a Spurrier and Urban. A great coach or two can change everything, even with decades of no championships (or, on our case, a century).

So while it is not likely that the underachieving, sling-blade intellect caterpillar that is tsun will emerge from its shit encrusted chrysalis in future years as a Big-Boy Football Butterfly, it is not impossible. All the more reason, I guess, not to let them take a deep breath in the never ending water-boarding of failure that is their lot.
 
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Their only hope at this point is hitting the lotto with some young assistant or young head coach from a smaller school.

scUM just is not a destination job for proven top coaches at this point.

The most hilarious scenario is them dumping Harbaugh and then bringing in Les Miles....Lester could probably get them 8 maybe 9 wins a year but they would mostly still be stuck in a pit of mediocrity
 
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Gatorubet said:
tOSU went 34 years between National Championships before Tress beat Miami. So dry spells happen to the best of us.
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Ohio State also won 15 conference titles in the 33 seasons between 1968 and 2002, so while we didn't win a natty for 34 years, we sure as hell wasn't in a dry spell". And if you include those national title years it becomes 17 conference title in 35 seasons, or essentially winning the conference every other year. The longest conference title drought during that span was six seasons ('87-'92). Michigan on the other hand has gone 14 seasons without so much as a share of a conference title (last one for them was a split title with Iowa in 2004).
 
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Its been said before, but definitely bears repeating. 62-39 broke this entire program. The coaches forgot how to coach, the players forgot how to play and the fanbase is left to grasp for answers where there are none. Right now, as they look forward to the rest of this season, one thought will continue to haunt them. "How the hell did we manage to score 39 in the game last year?"
 
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