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TTUN post-mortem

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Just got home to Colorado from a great long weekend, except for the game outcome, that is. Ate at Schmidts and Adriaticos and visited family all over the place and showed my son and his wife some of the old haunting grounds. My son and I sat in 20C and saw maybe the worst fan I have ever seen in my life. Giant dude, maybe in his 40s, was melting down cussing up a blue storm, all this while surrounded by families. Screaming at the refs on every call, flipping double birds, wishing the motherfuckers to die in a fire and he was going to hunt them down and kill their families. Same thing for the coaches and players. He was far enough away that I couldn't hear every word, but finally his wife just got up and left, and then the people around him started to get in his face. They finally called security and his friend drug him out before security arrived, while he pointed his finger and yelled threats at the other fans. What a joyful day for all involved. I wish this was an extremely isolated incident, but I'm guessing this played out all over the stadium. Then when I visited my niece and her family, her husband, who is a sheriff's deputy, told me that he spent all Saturday night responding to death threats on the coaching staff. Aye yai yai. He said domestic violence calls go up after any Buckeye loss, which I guess I knew, but he confirmed it. I don't know if we are any better or worse than any other fan base, but it feels like we are on the wrong side of the spectrum. One of the symptoms of a successful program. All this over watching a bunch of 19-year-olds playing a game. Dammit.

tldr: Nice trip "home", but many buckeye fans suck.
 
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colobuck79 said:
Just got home to Colorado from a great long weekend, except for the game outcome, that is. Ate at Schmidts and Adriaticos and visited family all over the place and showed my son and his wife some of the old haunting grounds. My son and I sat in 20C and saw maybe the worst fan I have ever seen in my life. Giant dude, maybe in his 40s, was melting down cussing up a blue storm, all this while surrounded by families. Screaming at the refs on every call, flipping double birds, wishing the motherfuckers to die in a fire and he was going to hunt them down and kill their families. Same thing for the coaches and players. He was far enough away that I couldn't hear every word, but finally his wife just got up and left, and then the people around him started to get in his face. They finally called security and his friend drug him out before security arrived, while he pointed his finger and yelled threats at the other fans. What a joyful day for all involved. I wish this was an extremely isolated incident, but I'm guessing this played out all over the stadium. Then when I visited my niece and her family, her husband, who is a sheriff's deputy, told me that he spent all Saturday night responding to death threats on the coaching staff. Aye yai yai. He said domestic violence calls go up after any Buckeye loss, which I guess I knew, but he confirmed it. I don't know if we are any better or worse than any other fan base, but it feels like we are on the wrong side of the spectrum. One of the symptoms of a successful program. All this over watching a bunch of 19-year-olds playing a game. Dammit.

tldr: Nice trip "home", but many buckeye fans suck.
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Some of those types unfortunately showed up here.

Preach on!
 
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Yikes. This is just ugly. :eek:

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Wherefore art thou, Tuimoilau, Sawyer, and Henderson?
How did we ever get so far from being able to run?
Can a team that likes to throw so much survive without a running capable QB?
Anyone seen Enjigba or Fleming lately?
 
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cincibuck said:
Wherefore art thou, Tuimoilau, Sawyer, and Henderson?
How did we ever get so far from being able to run?
Can a team that likes to throw so much survive without a running capable QB?
Anyone seen Enjigba or Fleming lately?
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Henderson broke his foot against Michigan State. When I saw the replay that's what I assumed happened. He should have been shut down for the season. I don't think Day should be fired for his record, but playing a injured kid with a bright future is fucking bullshit.
 
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Gunlife said:
Henderson broke his foot against Michigan State. When I saw the replay that's what I assumed happened. He should have been shut down for the season. I don't think Day should be fired for his record, but playing a injured kid with a bright future is fucking bullshit.
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You think Day played Henderson despite team doctors saying he couldn't play?
You think he doesn't defer to the doctors and players on injury maters.

I'll call utter bull shit.

In fact if anything I'd bet he goes to far the other way and doesn't press it enough.
If you posited this about Urban I might have abided.
Urban was old school/Day is new school - up with people, mental health, 20 guys on injury list every week.
 
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RB07OSU said:
So being up in C Deck without the announcers (and with a refusal to rewatch that game again), was Hayden hurt? Why on earth we were so insistent on running Chip nonstop was really what drove me insane. Obviously Henderson was out and seems like Miyan was limited, but I would have rode Hayden.
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I don’t know why Hayden didn’t get more carries. Didn’t Day say something about ball security? Maybe he was just afraid of a freshman mistake or maybe Hayden was fumbling in practice but his play against Maryland earned him the chance to show what he could do against Michigan. I’m not aware of any injury issue.

That said, Trayanum did a fine job out there. He averaged 5.9 yds/carry. Hayden only got 2 carries, one for 5 yds and one for 2. That’s too small a sample size to say what would’ve happened if he’d gotten the ball more. But Trayanum wasn’t the problem. And on that one play, I forget whether it was 3rd or 4th and short, when they ran a stretch run and he couldn’t get to the corner, there’s no reason to think Hayden would’ve gotten there faster. He’s not a speedster either.

I don’t know why they ran that play. I don’t know why they can’t just power forward for a yard or two when they need it. Is Justin Frye not pulling his weight? Is it the scheme? Or is it the talent?

I miss Dave.
 
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cdiddy70 said:
You think Day played Henderson despite team doctors saying he couldn't play?
You think he doesn't defer to the doctors and players on injury maters.

I'll call utter bull shit.

In fact if anything I'd bet he goes to far the other way and doesn't press it enough.
If you posited this about Urban I might have abided.
Urban was old school/Day is new school - up with people, mental health, 20 guys on injury list every week.
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I would like to know. Now that we know he's has been battling a broken foot and torn ligaments. To me you can't let an 18yr old play football with a broken foot. Let alone a potential high NFL draft pick. Just my opinion.

But its fair to say we don't have all the info.
 
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Hetuck said:
I don’t know why Hayden didn’t get more carries. Didn’t Day say something about ball security? Maybe he was just afraid of a freshman mistake or maybe Hayden was fumbling in practice but his play against Maryland earned him the chance to show what he could do against Michigan. I’m not aware of any injury issue.

That said, Trayanum did a fine job out there. He averaged 5.9 yds/carry. Hayden only got 2 carries, one for 5 yds and one for 2. That’s too small a sample size to say what would’ve happened if he’d gotten the ball more. But Trayanum wasn’t the problem. And on that one play, I forget whether it was 3rd or 4th and short, when they ran a stretch run and he couldn’t get to the corner, there’s no reason to think Hayden would’ve gotten there faster. He’s not a speedster either.

I don’t know why they ran that play. I don’t know why they can’t just power forward for a yard or two when they need it. Is Justin Frye not pulling his weight? Is it the scheme? Or is it the talent?

I miss Dave.
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If a heathy Hayden starts we win. I rewatched some of the first half. Not putting down Trayanum, but there were big holes that I firmly believe Hayden would have had massive chunk plays with. If he was hurt then I am happy Day kept him on the bench. Its going to be a mystery forever why he didn't get more carries after he was dominate the week before.
 
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