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Chip did fine. The biggest problem was that our line was opening big holes early on but with Miyan's injury, he just didn't have a quick enough burst off the line to make the most of them. I honestly think with his burst, Hayden takes a couple of those 5-6 yard gains and turns them into 25-30 yard runs. The lanes were there, Miyan just didn't have the footspeed on Saturday to get through them before they started to close.
This 100%. Oline was giving gapping holes. A back with a burst would have made chunk play after chunk play.

BTW I am not saying anything bad about the other backs. They ran very hard. In their current state they are at least a half step slower than Hayden was the week before.

Maybe Hayden was injured, maybe he was being disciplined. I would love to know the hell happened.
 
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My worry going forward is the D. Secondary looks completely confused. Big plays torching them.

The O will have a new QB and many more changes in 2023. A step back wouldn't be a surprise, obviously. Might have to actually rediscover a running game, if Day can open his eyes. That means you may have to lean on the D a bit, while the O comes around.
We return our entire RB room, our entire WR room, and 3 OL that started this year. There's no doubt questions about who our QB is and who our other 2 OL are though.

IMO, we need to address all 3 in the Portal. Go get the best QB available and the two nastiest OL available.

IMO the defense is fine and we will be better next year. We'll return 4 on the DL who have starts and both LBS. The secondary will be improved I think.

No more Brown, Hickman or McCallister which I think will allow better players to play like Hancock, Styles and Johnson.
 
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We return our entire RB room, our entire WR room, and 3 OL that started this year. There's no doubt questions about who our QB is and who our other 2 OL are though.

IMO, we need to address all 3 in the Portal. Go get the best QB available and the two nastiest OL available.

IMO the defense is fine and we will be better next year. We'll return 4 on the DL who have starts and both LBS. The secondary will be improved I think.

No more Brown, Hickman or McCallister which I think will allow better players to play like Hancock, Styles and Johnson.

Why do we need the best QB available? We have 2 really good young QBs who need reps. And then play the winner of the battle. And then get a "Chugs" type QB for depth and leadership in the portal.
OL(specifically OT) and CB is the only positions we really need to look hard at it in the portal.
The roster is honestly stacked with talent, except on the OTs and CBs
 
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Why do we need the best QB available? We have 2 really good young QBs who need reps. And then play the winner of the battle. And then get a "Chugs" type QB for depth and leadership in the portal.
OL(specifically OT) and CB is the only positions we really need to look hard at it in the portal.
The roster is honestly stacked with talent, except on the OTs and CBs
My thought is one of the two potentially transfers if they lose the QB battle. Can't go into next year with a first time starter and then a true freshman with no other options.
 
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My thought is one of the two potentially transfers if they lose the QB battle. Can't go into next year with a first time starter and then a true freshman with no other options.
I hear you. But problem is, getting the best available QB in the portal, that QB would expect to start and not sit. That's why I said getting a solid, depth player at QB who knows that he's coming in as a backup and to supply depth. I'm sure there are a number of those types of QBs that would have no problem with that role
 
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So forgive the thread necromancy, but I got nothing better to do right now and I just joined the forum recently.

From a Michigan fan's perspective however, I felt the problems you guys had in The Game were almost entirely schematic. Without being insulting, it felt very much like your coaching staff prepared mostly for last year's game with some extra Blake Corum sprinkled on, and refused to adapt at all once it was clear that 2022 Michigan was not the same team as 2021 Michigan and was attacking you in different ways.

On offense, you guys looked like you were dialing up the pass protection and running man-busting concepts; which works pretty good against like Don Brown but is almost irrelevant if we're just going to play zone high with man fits underneath and 7 guys in coverage. Our DLine this year was really good against the run, but we don't have Hutch and Ojabo anymore, so we're not that great at generating organic pass pressure with 4 down linemen. Even when we do rush four, we're often disguising who the fourth guy is because we just aren't gonna beat a lot of good teams pass rushing straight up. Except for the gimme play to Harrison (who still made an outstanding catch in coverage btw) we more or less dared Day and Stroud to beat us 6 yards at a time - and they simply lacked the patience to do that all day; and I tend to blame the coaches more than the QB because the patterns were all man-busting deep stuff you don't run against a cover 2 shell unless you've made them bite/walk down the safeties pre-snap. If you want to know why your TE seemed like a big focus of the offense, look at the patterns he ran versus the ones they had your WR running.

On defense it was more of the same but worse; I absolutely cannot believe your DC came out of that half still running man/island coverages with no safety help overtop. Everyone I know just figured you guys would stop giving us the free deepshots, and we'd have to grind it out. Which is secretly a problem because Michigan's running backs are not as interchangeable this year, as they were last year. Edwards is not the kinda guy who you milk for long drives where every play is positive and your oline just wears down the defensive front; he's explosive, but he's not borderline psychic like Corum is. Your coaching staff clearly bet the farm on stopping exactly what Blake does with the defense they called, but we didn't have Blake for but two plays. Which sorta comes back to my overall point; it felt like Ryan Day and his staff schemed up a gameplan to stop Haskins/Corum, and Hutch/Ojabo - and we're a completely different team now. At a minimum, after halftime everything should have changed about your gameplan, and it simply didn't. Or at least it didn't look like it to me.

And finally; I'm sure #12 is a great player because you guys recruit so so well. But he had a very bad day. A day so bad that a good coach would probably simplify his responsibilities, and maybe even rotate in the backup for a few plays to keep working with the guy on the sidelines as the game goes on. I didn't see much of that; just a staff leaving a floundering player out in open space with too many responsibilities and a mind churning its gears way too fast to play football like that.

Sorry if any of this offends; that's just what I saw from the other side of the TV screen.
 
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So forgive the thread necromancy, but I got nothing better to do right now and I just joined the forum recently.

From a Michigan fan's perspective however, I felt the problems you guys had in The Game were almost entirely schematic. Without being insulting, it felt very much like your coaching staff prepared mostly for last year's game with some extra Blake Corum sprinkled on, and refused to adapt at all once it was clear that 2022 Michigan was not the same team as 2021 Michigan and was attacking you in different ways.

On offense, you guys looked like you were dialing up the pass protection and running man-busting concepts; which works pretty good against like Don Brown but is almost irrelevant if we're just going to play zone high with man fits underneath and 7 guys in coverage. Our DLine this year was really good against the run, but we don't have Hutch and Ojabo anymore, so we're not that great at generating organic pass pressure with 4 down linemen. Even when we do rush four, we're often disguising who the fourth guy is because we just aren't gonna beat a lot of good teams pass rushing straight up. Except for the gimme play to Harrison (who still made an outstanding catch in coverage btw) we more or less dared Day and Stroud to beat us 6 yards at a time - and they simply lacked the patience to do that all day; and I tend to blame the coaches more than the QB because the patterns were all man-busting deep stuff you don't run against a cover 2 shell unless you've made them bite/walk down the safeties pre-snap. If you want to know why your TE seemed like a big focus of the offense, look at the patterns he ran versus the ones they had your WR running.

On defense it was more of the same but worse; I absolutely cannot believe your DC came out of that half still running man/island coverages with no safety help overtop. Everyone I know just figured you guys would stop giving us the free deepshots, and we'd have to grind it out. Which is secretly a problem because Michigan's running backs are not as interchangeable this year, as they were last year. Edwards is not the kinda guy who you milk for long drives where every play is positive and your oline just wears down the defensive front; he's explosive, but he's not borderline psychic like Corum is. Your coaching staff clearly bet the farm on stopping exactly what Blake does with the defense they called, but we didn't have Blake for but two plays. Which sorta comes back to my overall point; it felt like Ryan Day and his staff schemed up a gameplan to stop Haskins/Corum, and Hutch/Ojabo - and we're a completely different team now. At a minimum, after halftime everything should have changed about your gameplan, and it simply didn't. Or at least it didn't look like it to me.

And finally; I'm sure #12 is a great player because you guys recruit so so well. But he had a very bad day. A day so bad that a good coach would probably simplify his responsibilities, and maybe even rotate in the backup for a few plays to keep working with the guy on the sidelines as the game goes on. I didn't see much of that; just a staff leaving a floundering player out in open space with too many responsibilities and a mind churning its gears way too fast to play football like that.

Sorry if any of this offends; that's just what I saw from the other side of the TV screen.
Hate to agree but, mostly, I agree. Especially on defense. We played a boom or bust RB with a boom or bust defense.
 
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So forgive the thread necromancy, but I got nothing better to do right now and I just joined the forum recently.

From a Michigan fan's perspective however, I felt the problems you guys had in The Game were almost entirely schematic. Without being insulting, it felt very much like your coaching staff prepared mostly for last year's game with some extra Blake Corum sprinkled on, and refused to adapt at all once it was clear that 2022 Michigan was not the same team as 2021 Michigan and was attacking you in different ways.

On offense, you guys looked like you were dialing up the pass protection and running man-busting concepts; which works pretty good against like Don Brown but is almost irrelevant if we're just going to play zone high with man fits underneath and 7 guys in coverage. Our DLine this year was really good against the run, but we don't have Hutch and Ojabo anymore, so we're not that great at generating organic pass pressure with 4 down linemen. Even when we do rush four, we're often disguising who the fourth guy is because we just aren't gonna beat a lot of good teams pass rushing straight up. Except for the gimme play to Harrison (who still made an outstanding catch in coverage btw) we more or less dared Day and Stroud to beat us 6 yards at a time - and they simply lacked the patience to do that all day; and I tend to blame the coaches more than the QB because the patterns were all man-busting deep stuff you don't run against a cover 2 shell unless you've made them bite/walk down the safeties pre-snap. If you want to know why your TE seemed like a big focus of the offense, look at the patterns he ran versus the ones they had your WR running.

On defense it was more of the same but worse; I absolutely cannot believe your DC came out of that half still running man/island coverages with no safety help overtop. Everyone I know just figured you guys would stop giving us the free deepshots, and we'd have to grind it out. Which is secretly a problem because Michigan's running backs are not as interchangeable this year, as they were last year. Edwards is not the kinda guy who you milk for long drives where every play is positive and your oline just wears down the defensive front; he's explosive, but he's not borderline psychic like Corum is. Your coaching staff clearly bet the farm on stopping exactly what Blake does with the defense they called, but we didn't have Blake for but two plays. Which sorta comes back to my overall point; it felt like Ryan Day and his staff schemed up a gameplan to stop Haskins/Corum, and Hutch/Ojabo - and we're a completely different team now. At a minimum, after halftime everything should have changed about your gameplan, and it simply didn't. Or at least it didn't look like it to me.

And finally; I'm sure #12 is a great player because you guys recruit so so well. But he had a very bad day. A day so bad that a good coach would probably simplify his responsibilities, and maybe even rotate in the backup for a few plays to keep working with the guy on the sidelines as the game goes on. I didn't see much of that; just a staff leaving a floundering player out in open space with too many responsibilities and a mind churning its gears way too fast to play football like that.

Sorry if any of this offends; that's just what I saw from the other side of the TV screen.
it was frustrating because while no one has seen Michigan attempt to throw downfield, it was well known that JJ lacks the consistency to put together 8-12 good small throws together consistently. it's what they're doing to one of the most accurate QBs in b1g history in stroud, yet they won't make JJ prove he can take what the defense gives him? c'mon.

the entire game turned on that zone blitz.

OSU has usually received solid play from their safeties. it has never received steady play from its corners, so asking him to make that play, and have the DE be the backup, is a pretty huge problem.

even with as bad as they played, and as well as Michigan did, they had chances to take it back. they just didn't execute, and Michigan did, throughout the game. there are fluky games, this one went as it was played.

the fake punt gets plenty of attention, but the great breakup by sanristil should never have happened. the guard needs to block his man, so stroud could not panic. Then a brilliant play design could have capitalized on how badly Michigan was outflanked. Marvin was streaking to the far corner for a much higher percentage throw, and egbuka was wide open in that flat on the fake jet sweep that Michigan incorrectly swapped personnel for, leaving no one to stop emeka. A common execution error. but they forced it to stover for the twentieth time and it ended poorly.

it will be interesting to see how the scheme is adjusted if there is a rematch. The real problem is how do you avoid playing tight, which is a repeating problem for days offense.

that's where I thought OSU would squeeze. JJ makes bad choices when things are chaotic. instead, they simplified the reads for him and asked him to make throws while pressured instead of while thinking too much.
 
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So forgive the thread necromancy, but I got nothing better to do right now and I just joined the forum recently.

From a Michigan fan's perspective however, I felt the problems you guys had in The Game were almost entirely schematic. Without being insulting, it felt very much like your coaching staff prepared mostly for last year's game with some extra Blake Corum sprinkled on, and refused to adapt at all once it was clear that 2022 Michigan was not the same team as 2021 Michigan and was attacking you in different ways.

On offense, you guys looked like you were dialing up the pass protection and running man-busting concepts; which works pretty good against like Don Brown but is almost irrelevant if we're just going to play zone high with man fits underneath and 7 guys in coverage. Our DLine this year was really good against the run, but we don't have Hutch and Ojabo anymore, so we're not that great at generating organic pass pressure with 4 down linemen. Even when we do rush four, we're often disguising who the fourth guy is because we just aren't gonna beat a lot of good teams pass rushing straight up. Except for the gimme play to Harrison (who still made an outstanding catch in coverage btw) we more or less dared Day and Stroud to beat us 6 yards at a time - and they simply lacked the patience to do that all day; and I tend to blame the coaches more than the QB because the patterns were all man-busting deep stuff you don't run against a cover 2 shell unless you've made them bite/walk down the safeties pre-snap. If you want to know why your TE seemed like a big focus of the offense, look at the patterns he ran versus the ones they had your WR running.

On defense it was more of the same but worse; I absolutely cannot believe your DC came out of that half still running man/island coverages with no safety help overtop. Everyone I know just figured you guys would stop giving us the free deepshots, and we'd have to grind it out. Which is secretly a problem because Michigan's running backs are not as interchangeable this year, as they were last year. Edwards is not the kinda guy who you milk for long drives where every play is positive and your oline just wears down the defensive front; he's explosive, but he's not borderline psychic like Corum is. Your coaching staff clearly bet the farm on stopping exactly what Blake does with the defense they called, but we didn't have Blake for but two plays. Which sorta comes back to my overall point; it felt like Ryan Day and his staff schemed up a gameplan to stop Haskins/Corum, and Hutch/Ojabo - and we're a completely different team now. At a minimum, after halftime everything should have changed about your gameplan, and it simply didn't. Or at least it didn't look like it to me.

And finally; I'm sure #12 is a great player because you guys recruit so so well. But he had a very bad day. A day so bad that a good coach would probably simplify his responsibilities, and maybe even rotate in the backup for a few plays to keep working with the guy on the sidelines as the game goes on. I didn't see much of that; just a staff leaving a floundering player out in open space with too many responsibilities and a mind churning its gears way too fast to play football like that.

Sorry if any of this offends; that's just what I saw from the other side of the TV screen.
Dude, no need to apologize!

You are spot on!:pimp:
 
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So forgive the thread necromancy, but I got nothing better to do right now and I just joined the forum recently.

From a Michigan fan's perspective however, I felt the problems you guys had in The Game were almost entirely schematic. Without being insulting, it felt very much like your coaching staff prepared mostly for last year's game with some extra Blake Corum sprinkled on, and refused to adapt at all once it was clear that 2022 Michigan was not the same team as 2021 Michigan and was attacking you in different ways.

On offense, you guys looked like you were dialing up the pass protection and running man-busting concepts; which works pretty good against like Don Brown but is almost irrelevant if we're just going to play zone high with man fits underneath and 7 guys in coverage. Our DLine this year was really good against the run, but we don't have Hutch and Ojabo anymore, so we're not that great at generating organic pass pressure with 4 down linemen. Even when we do rush four, we're often disguising who the fourth guy is because we just aren't gonna beat a lot of good teams pass rushing straight up. Except for the gimme play to Harrison (who still made an outstanding catch in coverage btw) we more or less dared Day and Stroud to beat us 6 yards at a time - and they simply lacked the patience to do that all day; and I tend to blame the coaches more than the QB because the patterns were all man-busting deep stuff you don't run against a cover 2 shell unless you've made them bite/walk down the safeties pre-snap. If you want to know why your TE seemed like a big focus of the offense, look at the patterns he ran versus the ones they had your WR running.

On defense it was more of the same but worse; I absolutely cannot believe your DC came out of that half still running man/island coverages with no safety help overtop. Everyone I know just figured you guys would stop giving us the free deepshots, and we'd have to grind it out. Which is secretly a problem because Michigan's running backs are not as interchangeable this year, as they were last year. Edwards is not the kinda guy who you milk for long drives where every play is positive and your oline just wears down the defensive front; he's explosive, but he's not borderline psychic like Corum is. Your coaching staff clearly bet the farm on stopping exactly what Blake does with the defense they called, but we didn't have Blake for but two plays. Which sorta comes back to my overall point; it felt like Ryan Day and his staff schemed up a gameplan to stop Haskins/Corum, and Hutch/Ojabo - and we're a completely different team now. At a minimum, after halftime everything should have changed about your gameplan, and it simply didn't. Or at least it didn't look like it to me.

And finally; I'm sure #12 is a great player because you guys recruit so so well. But he had a very bad day. A day so bad that a good coach would probably simplify his responsibilities, and maybe even rotate in the backup for a few plays to keep working with the guy on the sidelines as the game goes on. I didn't see much of that; just a staff leaving a floundering player out in open space with too many responsibilities and a mind churning its gears way too fast to play football like that.

Sorry if any of this offends; that's just what I saw from the other side of the TV screen.

Candidly, this is exactly the kind of discussion that is welcome here — from anyone. Being critical is not bad — and you bring solid critique. What gets folks in trouble is not being able to back up their position.

Welcome to the board, merry Christmas. Look forward to your thoughtful posts going forward.
 
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Okay so there's a lot going on here, and I don't want to be that "you so right" jerk. Gonna take it one by one.

it was frustrating because while no one has seen Michigan attempt to throw downfield, it was well known that JJ lacks the consistency to put together 8-12 good small throws together consistently. it's what they're doing to one of the most accurate QBs in b1g history in stroud, yet they won't make JJ prove he can take what the defense gives him? c'mon.

I'm not sure how to respond to this because frankly even Michigan fans, don't really know what JJ McCarthy is. Last year he was the guy we brought in to take deep shots and if you go look at the numbers; he hit them. This year, he started off being absolutely clinical in the short passing game (albeit against weak competition) but couldn't hit the deep shot; that lasted for about eight weeks, and then he seemed to hit a wall. I was genuinely VERY worried after the Illinois game. But as you know, it worked out okay in The Game. So the fact is I dunno how you're supposed to defend JJ; it very much depends on which JJ shows up. The fact is, he has almost the entire toolbox (do not love his back corner fade game, but that's a HARD throw to make at any level) but we have no idea what he's going to do, or what his "natural" game is even now a full season later.

the entire game turned on that zone blitz.

OSU has usually received solid play from their safeties. it has never received steady play from its corners, so asking him to make that play, and have the DE be the backup, is a pretty huge problem.

This is the part where I just say "you so right." I was more or less getting ready for a beatdown till Corny broke that tackle. As an aside tho; you guys took WEIRD pursuit angles all day. Definitely felt like you underestimated our speed in real time, because again, I've seen enough OSU games to know that normally it's not a problem for the Buckeyes. Still can't get over how bad a game #12 had; not picking on him, just the worst time to lose your markers and struggle with flipping your hips in space.

even with as bad as they played, and as well as Michigan did, they had chances to take it back. they just didn't execute, and Michigan did, throughout the game. there are fluky games, this one went as it was played.

My stomach was in my throat until literally the SECOND long Edwards touchdown; then I felt relaxed. I mean not picking a fight but more or less isn't this the story of every game you guys ever lose? Talent and coaching wise, y'all are more or less in the top tier of college football, so aren't MOST games you lose a question of execution? Doesn't feel like the problem for the Buckeyes is EVER going to be "the horses." That having been said; if your staff calls a bad game (and forgive me, I believe they did) it makes it not only harder for the team to execute their way out of trouble, but forces them to do it more often. My read is that your staff called a game that forced kids to "make a play" too often, and eventually they crumbled.

the fake punt gets plenty of attention, but the great breakup by sanristil should never have happened. the guard needs to block his man, so stroud could not panic. Then a brilliant play design could have capitalized on how badly Michigan was outflanked. Marvin was streaking to the far corner for a much higher percentage throw, and egbuka was wide open in that flat on the fake jet sweep that Michigan incorrectly swapped personnel for, leaving no one to stop emeka. A common execution error. but they forced it to stover for the twentieth time and it ended poorly.

I was pretty sure that play was a touchdown, but I'm not gonna complain that your QB put too much air under it and Mikey got the recovery and swat. I don't think they PLANNED to feature Stover quite frankly, I think OSU's playcalling made Stover the guy who was open, in light of the defense we're playing. I think Day needed to scheme someone else into the spaces Stover was roaming, because we had to, by necessity, leave those spaces open. I think that's why Day kept going to his screen game, because it schemes one of your stud WR open automatically; it's just that we were jumping the screens and quite frankly your dudes outside are not willing blockers for the screen target. THAT part, is all on the players imho. It's probably a whole different game with your all world slot guy in there because at least half those passes to Stover, go to a future NFL all-pro instead.

it will be interesting to see how the scheme is adjusted if there is a rematch. The real problem is how do you avoid playing tight, which is a repeating problem for days offense.

that's where I thought OSU would squeeze. JJ makes bad choices when things are chaotic. instead, they simplified the reads for him and asked him to make throws while pressured instead of while thinking too much.

Well, on defense, Michigan will make no adjustments because we more or less can't. This is the scheme that the talent we have allows us to run. We tried other things throughout the year and nothing looked anywhere near as good as the coverage-based zone scheme we're playing now; we don't have the pass rushers to spend all day in man, and while our secondary plays lights out as a unit, there is a lack of pure speed that forces us until the 2 high shell with pattern matching coverage underneath. We literally can't play any other way.

On offense, I would expect us to play a whole different game; less reliant on big plays, and more methodical. I think JJ will surprise you in that situation, he's excelled there before and faded down the stretch, but the ability is there. The truth however is the difference between this Michigan team, which believes it can win a national title, and last year's team, which we all suspect was just happy to be there, is JJ; and we're only going to go as far as he can take us. If OSU can confuse him, we will lose the rematch (assuming there is one ofc, fingers crossed and all that) - but I think he'll surprise you, he's harder to confuse than the highlights would lead you to believe.
 
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Okay so there's a lot going on here, and I don't want to be that "you so right" jerk. Gonna take it one by one.



I'm not sure how to respond to this because frankly even Michigan fans, don't really know what JJ McCarthy is. Last year he was the guy we brought in to take deep shots and if you go look at the numbers; he hit them. This year, he started off being absolutely clinical in the short passing game (albeit against weak competition) but couldn't hit the deep shot; that lasted for about eight weeks, and then he seemed to hit a wall. I was genuinely VERY worried after the Illinois game. But as you know, it worked out okay in The Game. So the fact is I dunno how you're supposed to defend JJ; it very much depends on which JJ shows up. The fact is, he has almost the entire toolbox (do not love his back corner fade game, but that's a HARD throw to make at any level) but we have no idea what he's going to do, or what his "natural" game is even now a full season later.



This is the part where I just say "you so right." I was more or less getting ready for a beatdown till Corny broke that tackle. As an aside tho; you guys took WEIRD pursuit angles all day. Definitely felt like you underestimated our speed in real time, because again, I've seen enough OSU games to know that normally it's not a problem for the Buckeyes. Still can't get over how bad a game #12 had; not picking on him, just the worst time to lose your markers and struggle with flipping your hips in space.



My stomach was in my throat until literally the SECOND long Edwards touchdown; then I felt relaxed. I mean not picking a fight but more or less isn't this the story of every game you guys ever lose? Talent and coaching wise, y'all are more or less in the top tier of college football, so aren't MOST games you lose a question of execution? Doesn't feel like the problem for the Buckeyes is EVER going to be "the horses." That having been said; if your staff calls a bad game (and forgive me, I believe they did) it makes it not only harder for the team to execute their way out of trouble, but forces them to do it more often. My read is that your staff called a game that forced kids to "make a play" too often, and eventually they crumbled.



I was pretty sure that play was a touchdown, but I'm not gonna complain that your QB put too much air under it and Mikey got the recovery and swat. I don't think they PLANNED to feature Stover quite frankly, I think OSU's playcalling made Stover the guy who was open, in light of the defense we're playing. I think Day needed to scheme someone else into the spaces Stover was roaming, because we had to, by necessity, leave those spaces open. I think that's why Day kept going to his screen game, because it schemes one of your stud WR open automatically; it's just that we were jumping the screens and quite frankly your dudes outside are not willing blockers for the screen target. THAT part, is all on the players imho. It's probably a whole different game with your all world slot guy in there because at least half those passes to Stover, go to a future NFL all-pro instead.



Well, on defense, Michigan will make no adjustments because we more or less can't. This is the scheme that the talent we have allows us to run. We tried other things throughout the year and nothing looked anywhere near as good as the coverage-based zone scheme we're playing now; we don't have the pass rushers to spend all day in man, and while our secondary plays lights out as a unit, there is a lack of pure speed that forces us until the 2 high shell with pattern matching coverage underneath. We literally can't play any other way.

On offense, I would expect us to play a whole different game; less reliant on big plays, and more methodical. I think JJ will surprise you in that situation, he's excelled there before and faded down the stretch, but the ability is there. The truth however is the difference between this Michigan team, which believes it can win a national title, and last year's team, which we all suspect was just happy to be there, is JJ; and we're only going to go as far as he can take us. If OSU can confuse him, we will lose the rematch (assuming there is one ofc, fingers crossed and all that) - but I think he'll surprise you, he's harder to confuse than the highlights would lead you to believe.
Glad to have you posting!

The one thing you keep coming back to that I can't help to address.

You speak very negative of #12 Ransom on our defense...

I couldn't agree more. He was a strong liability the last few games of the year and honestly this concerns me going into our game with UGA.

Edited: I should add that he was a strength for the first 9 games. However the last month he really struggled.
 
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Welcome to the board, TYB. It's been awhile (ever? someone remind me) since we have had a decent, knowledgeable, observation-based colloquy with a M&B fan. I'm all for it. As much as we hate to lose (and god knows, fuck me, two in a row) to you, it's good for the rivalry and the sport for y'all to be solid. We didn't do the rivalry any favors when I was in Columbus under Cooper and, as much as we all reveled in our run of late, I think it's probably better overall to trade punches regularly.

My take, for what it's worth, has mirrored your and JW's, above. Generally, we played (and, I assume, prepared) too tight and couldn't decide what toys to play with in our toybox on offense and were unnecessarily and, eventually, stupidly aggressive on defense. Unlike 2021, it was there for us to win it, but your guys capitalized where you needed to and won it. I think that if we get a rematch for EVERYTHING, we can win it. It just depends on our staff and players. One way or another, I think we'll learn more about our program in the playoff than y'all will. I think we're all clear on who y'all are at this point and have to respect that. Similarly to your take on JJMc, though, I don't think we really know who our team is, but we will shortly.
 
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Glad to have you posting!

The one thing you keep coming back to that I can't help to address.

You speak very negative of #12 Ransom on our defense...

I couldn't agree more. He was a strong liability the last few games of the year and honestly this concerns me going into our game with UGA.

Edited: I should add that he was a strength for the first 9 games. However the last month he really struggled.

I don't want to kill the kid because I didn't see your whole season, and I can tell he's an elite athlete. Furthermore, part of the problem is definitely the defensive system you run - all that havoc has a price tag, and in your DC's system that price tag is putting a tremendous amount of responsibility on the two safeties that aren't the deep guy. Plus you throw in that you guys went extra hard at the line on the snap specifically for Michigan, and what you've got is a player whose responsibilities would test most NFL safeties, just in terms of how much ground he has to cover, and how many reads he has to make on the play. So, that's the mitigating factor. What you can't mitigate is taking bad angles, flipping the wrong way on a pass play that cost you guys bigtime, and quite frankly giving up on a couple of plays. Again, in fairness, this defensive scheme is asking him to close a lot of gaps and never, ever, get beat deep - and those two assignments are in opposition to each other against a well-coached offense.


Welcome to the board, TYB. It's been awhile (ever? someone remind me) since we have had a decent, knowledgeable, observation-based colloquy with a M&B fan. I'm all for it. As much as we hate to lose (and god knows, fuck me, two in a row) to you, it's good for the rivalry and the sport for y'all to be solid. We didn't do the rivalry any favors when I was in Columbus under Cooper and, as much as we all reveled in our run of late, I think it's probably better overall to trade punches regularly.

My take, for what it's worth, has mirrored your and JW's, above. Generally, we played (and, I assume, prepared) too tight and couldn't decide what toys to play with in our toybox on offense and were unnecessarily and, eventually, stupidly aggressive on defense. Unlike 2021, it was there for us to win it, but your guys capitalized where you needed to and won it. I think that if we get a rematch for EVERYTHING, we can win it. It just depends on our staff and players. One way or another, I think we'll learn more about our program in the playoff than y'all will. I think we're all clear on who y'all are at this point and have to respect that. Similarly to your take on JJMc, though, I don't think we really know who our team is, but we will shortly.

Hey, thanks, I think? :) I dunno, like I said in the other thread; there are reasons I'm not posting all this stuff on MGoBlog. I'm just a college football fan who happens to root hard for Michigan; nobody is cutting checks for my amateur PR work for the program. If you want to know the truth, I gave up on Harbaugh after the 2019 Wisconsin crap-show; known forever to me as "the Jonathan Taylor game" and not in a good way. So in some ways, I'm just as shocked as everyone who loathes Michigan that the last two years happened at all. Can't say I won't take them though; and the truth is, we need a guy like Harbaugh. Is he a weird f*cker? Absolutely; but he's also a big enough jerk to deal with the internal pressures and often unrealistic expectations, that come with the Michigan job. Dude's an absolute freak, but without him, we'd be Wisconsin with (mostly) better recruiting. P.S. I rather liked Cooper, but I can see why you folks would disagree :)

As for the rivalry; I mean I hate OSU football because anyone who has their lunch money stolen that often is gonna hate the guy doing it. It's just not personal, and it's not about anything other than football. I could really sincerely not care less where Obama's daughters go to school, for example. It's not even political, I just didn't sign up to root for school; I watch football, basketball when we're at least average, and hockey whenever we have NHL guys putting their time in before they go pro. I'm a fan; nothing more. Do I think OSU can win a rematch? Of course, I think they're an elite football team that can win any game they play; the recruiting backs that position up too. If I'm being honest, I'm even quite a bit scared of TCU; it's not like Michigan has a history of crapping the bed despite huge advantages on the lines, against a team with fast receivers and a QB that can scramble, right? *stares in App State*

But I wouldn't trade the opportunity for anything either. For us, right now, it really is about JJ. He has to keep playing up to his talent, or we're not going to win either of these games. But everyone who follows the program knew that was the score to begin with; that's why Harbaugh rigged up a QB competition that we all knew JJ was going to win - to take the next step as a team, we need JJ to take the next step as a player. I believe he can, I hope he can, but man I'm not psychic. :) I have no advice for Georgia; they ripped our soul out on live TV last year and don't see *that* much decline when I watch their highlights. If Michigan has to play them, I feel like the only thing I can hope for is they get bored/overconfident; so I hope you guys have a better answer than that. :)

Thanks for the welcome guys, it's been a blast so far. I gotta confess tho that I knew it was going to be; I read multiple complete threads before I signed up and kinda got a feel for the vibe here.
 
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