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ttun basketball (Juwan out, Dusty May in)

Well, I wanted some laughter today, so I ventured over to mgoblog to read through their game thread from yesterday:

http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/mbb-vs-ohio-state-open-thread?page=1

Summary:

Kill Deibler.
Sully needs an elbow to the face.
Refs let Sully do anything and never call a foul yet call a foul whenever someone looks at him. :roll1:
Hightower loves him some OSU, that is why they lost.
Wait until next year. (Seems to be their new motto, every year :lol:)
The refs handed the game to the Buckeyes


I chuckled quite a bit while reading it.
 
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Well, I wanted some laughter today, so I ventured over to mgoblog to read through their game thread from yesterday:

http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/mbb-vs-ohio-state-open-thread?page=1

Summary:

Kill Deibler.
Sully needs an elbow to the face.
Refs let Sully do anything and never call a foul yet call a foul whenever someone looks at him. :roll1:
Hightower loves him some OSU, that is why they lost.
Wait until next year. (Seems to be their new motto, every year :lol:)
The refs handed the game to the Buckeyes


I chuckled quite a bit while reading it.
I must be biased as shit because every team's messageboard always says Sullinger gets fouls called against him all the time.....but when I watch I feel like they only call about 1/3rd of the actual fouls. The kid gets mugged every time he touches the ball.
 
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For being a #8 seed (which was, IMO, waaaaay too high), UM sure didn't luck out in the draw at all. They're absolutely going to have their hands full with Tennessee. They'd better hope for 50% or better from 3 point land, or this one could get ugly.
 
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buckeyesin07;1890774; said:
For being a #8 seed (which was, IMO, waaaaay too high), UM sure didn't luck out in the draw at all. They're absolutely going to have their hands full with Tennessee. They'd better hope for 50% or better from 3 point land, or this one could get ugly.

Actually I think its a good draw for them from the point of view its all or nothing.

UT is perfectly capable of a complete no show in which case our friends from up north should win. OR They will get the motivated UT, be complimented on their pretty mouths and told to squeal.

All joking aside, Duke better be praying to the God of pasty white folks that the psycho bad UT shows up because the good UT can just wreck that bracket. Duke, UT and Texas in the same half of a bracket is nuts (almost as bad as OSU, UK and WVU).
 
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buckeyesin07;1890774; said:
For being a #8 seed (which was, IMO, waaaaay too high), UM sure didn't luck out in the draw at all. They're absolutely going to have their hands full with Tennessee. They'd better hope for 50% or better from 3 point land, or this one could get ugly.
I actually have them knocking Tennessee off. The Vols are thoroughly mediocre this year, so not sure how you see it getting ugly.
 
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Wells4Heisman;1890702; said:
How about that Fab Five special tonight.... Gotta admit that was awesome.
I had problems with it:

1) C-Webb's refusal to participate means there are gaping holes in the story that still aren't filled in.

2) Howard and Rose were Executive Producers for the film. HUGE conflict of interest there, and I think it explains why it wasn't hard hitting enough, why everybody they interviewed was either apologetic or dismissive in the aftermath of the Ed Martin scandal, and why it COMPLETELY glossed over the fact that this lineup was hardly otherworldly (freshmen or no) and lost a number of games.

Face it, this collection of high school superstars beat the teams they were supposed to beat, but didn't do too much else.

In the 91-92 season they lost to Jimmy Jackson's Buckeyes twice in the regular season (by double digits both times) but are largely remembered for scoring the upset in the Elite Eight. They lost to Duke in the 91-92 season twice (including by 20 points in the title game), and they actually lost to Duke a third time when they played in the second game of the 92-93 season after opening that year with the #1 ranking. That little factoid was omitted from the film entirely. The Fab Five not only didn't win any national titles, but they never even won a conference title. They tied for third in 91-92 and finished second in 92-93. Webber left and they finished second again in 93-94, then Rose and Howard left and the team tied for third again in 94-95.

Knowing that Rose and Howard produced this, I think it came across as being a "me too" film where they essentially mirrored the 30-for-30 film about the Miami Hurricanes, but ignored the fact they didn't accomplish jack, they didn't win jack, and they weren't that influential. They were neither as dominant or as bad ass as those Canes, but they get their own film which props them up as being equals? Puh-lease...

The Fab Five's true gift to the basketball world was baggy shorts, and that's about it.
 
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Dryden;1890797; said:
I had problems with it:

1) C-Webb's refusal to participate means there are gaping holes in the story that still aren't filled in.

2) Howard and Rose were Executive Producers for the film. HUGE conflict of interest there, and I think it explains why it wasn't hard hitting enough, why everybody they interviewed was either apologetic or dismissive in the aftermath of the Ed Martin scandal, and why it COMPLETELY glossed over the fact that this lineup was hardly otherworldly (freshmen or no) and lost a number of games.

Face it, this collection of high school superstars beat the teams they were supposed to beat, but didn't do too much else.

In the 91-92 season they lost to Jimmy Jackson's Buckeyes twice in the regular season (by double digits both times) but are largely remembered for scoring the upset in the Elite Eight. They lost to Duke in the 91-92 season twice (including by 20 points in the title game), and they actually lost to Duke a third time when they played in the second game of the 92-93 season after opening that year with the #1 ranking. That little factoid was omitted from the film entirely. The Fab Five not only didn't win any national titles, but they never even won a conference title. They tied for third in 91-92 and finished second in 92-93. Webber left and they finished second again in 93-94, then Rose and Howard left and the team tied for third again in 94-95.

Knowing that Rose and Howard produced this, I think it came across as being a "me too" film where they essentially mirrored the 30-for-30 film about the Miami Hurricanes, but ignored the fact they didn't accomplish jack, they didn't win jack, and they weren't that influential. They were neither as dominant or as bad ass as those Canes, but they get their own film which props them up as being equals? Puh-lease...

The Fab Five's true gift to the basketball world was baggy shorts, and that's about it.
And black socks. You can not omit the black socks. That was fucking revolutionary shit, man.
 
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NFBuck;1890781; said:
I actually have them knocking Tennessee off. The Vols are thoroughly mediocre this year, so not sure how you see it getting ugly.


I think a motivated/shows up to play/whatever you want to call it...the "good" UT can beat anyone.

I'm with you though I have UM beating them.

I do think either UT or UM have the athleticism to give Duke a run in the second game. I hate the scUMers but that would be epic.
 
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Dryden;1890797; said:
I had problems with it:

1) C-Webb's refusal to participate means there are gaping holes in the story that still aren't filled in.

2) Howard and Rose were Executive Producers for the film. HUGE conflict of interest there, and I think it explains why it wasn't hard hitting enough, why everybody they interviewed was either apologetic or dismissive in the aftermath of the Ed Martin scandal, and why it COMPLETELY glossed over the fact that this lineup was hardly otherworldly (freshmen or no) and lost a number of games.

Face it, this collection of high school superstars beat the teams they were supposed to beat, but didn't do too much else.

In the 91-92 season they lost to Jimmy Jackson's Buckeyes twice in the regular season (by double digits both times) but are largely remembered for scoring the upset in the Elite Eight. They lost to Duke in the 91-92 season twice (including by 20 points in the title game), and they actually lost to Duke a third time when they played in the second game of the 92-93 season after opening that year with the #1 ranking. That little factoid was omitted from the film entirely. The Fab Five not only didn't win any national titles, but they never even won a conference title. They tied for third in 91-92 and finished second in 92-93. Webber left and they finished second again in 93-94, then Rose and Howard left and the team tied for third again in 94-95.

Knowing that Rose and Howard produced this, I think it came across as being a "me too" film where they essentially mirrored the 30-for-30 film about the Miami Hurricanes, but ignored the fact they didn't accomplish jack, they didn't win jack, and they weren't that influential. They were neither as dominant or as bad ass as those Canes, but they get their own film which props them up as being equals? Puh-lease...

The Fab Five's true gift to the basketball world was baggy shorts, and that's about it.

Regardless how you feel about the school, you have to admit that what they actually did accomplish as Freshamn & Sophomores is great. Ok so we had 5 high school superstars that didn't win a championship. How many times have Oh St been ranked #1 or have a top seed going into the tourney and not win? It's the same deal, you are beating the teams you're supposed to be beating but can't win the most important game. Like I said, these guys were freshamn & sophomores.

Aww isn't that cute you guys beat that team twice in the 91-92 season but didnt win when it counted! Shouldn't that go in the category of beating teams you're supposed to beat? Yes we did lose to Duke by a wide margin & again the following season, but it's not like Duke was all of a sudden an inferior team.

Face it your dislike for UM has your "review" of this documentary very, very biased.
 
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