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Game Thread tOSU vs. Penn St. (Dark Night in the 'Shoe) Sat 10/17 @ 8p ET, ABC/ESPN/ESPN2

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I would give 20 to 1 odds JT is starter next week. We will not see CJ again unless JT gets hurt or he has a very rough patch. I was hoping CJ would repeat his last year success but the scheme is not for him. I don't know why they tried to run the scheme we ran with JT this season instead of sticking to the playbook that worked when CJ was starting but the easy answer is to go with JT if you insist on running a JT style offensive.
 
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Alright, folks. I'm going to sign off Twitter and call it a night.

I have to think JTB16 is our new starter. I will admit to being enthusiastic about that. But let me say this ... Cardale, like JTB16 and BM1, holds a legendary place in Ohio State history. His play in those three games was nothing short of astonishing, given the circumstances. I want to win. I want to win another title. Here's the thing though -- I want to see Cardale having fun again. I want to see that big smile and that swagger. JT Barrett and Cardale Jones are still an amazing duo, it's still a great problem to have -- even though the play has not been there. We can hypothesize about what ails the passing game -- I have every confidence that @alexhortdog95 has a suggestion, and he may well be right. Or maybe it's Cardale trying too hard, or maybe it's just growing pains and dysfunction -- who knows?

What I do know is Cardale is a National Champion. Not just a National Champion, but one of the few (like Zeke, like JTB, like a few others) who we can say, with reasonable fairness, without them we wouldn't have been national champions.

Cardale is now and forever will be a legend. It could well be that more of his legend will still be written, who knows. We can (and I don't speak for everyone) pull to see JTB16 start next week, but (and I think I do speak for everyone here) if we see CJ12 roll out, then we should want nothing more in the world than to see him play the way we KNOW he can -- if, that is, he's given a scheme that suits his tremendous abilities.

I worry now, after this game, more than any other point in the season about CJ's ego and confidence. I loved the "JT. JT, JT" chant, loved to see the offense respond to the spark he provided -- and behind all of that was an itch; how Cardale must feel with the stadium shaking as JTB16 continues to put up points. Points in the RZ opportunities before, points as the presumptive starter now.

I only have one child. But I think I start to understand the difficulty that must come with having two in situations wherein the success of one casts a difficult shadow over the other. Tough situation.

Let's take particular care to be, well, BPish about Cardale (and all our players) in these threads. I get frustrated like everyone else, and while it doesn't always work, remembering the magic that was the final run to the title last year tends to bring me right out of that. Quite a few of the guys on this team have earned our unwavering respect and appreciation, Cardale is certainly one of them. Kid is out there doing his best, maybe trying too hard. Want the best for him, even as I look forward to what should be a JTB16 start next week against Rutgers.
 
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Well, kind peeps. Been a nice day.

You guys handled the Pedsters...
My Huskers played well enough to not choke for the fifth time (at least for one more week).
And Sparty beat....ah hell, why even talk about it?

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lowbuck said:
I would give 20 to 1 odds JT is starter next week. We will not see CJ again unless JT gets hurt or he has a very rough patch. I was hoping CJ would repeat his last year success but the scheme is not for him. I don't know why they tried to run the scheme we ran with JT this season instead of sticking to the playbook that worked when CJ was starting but the easy answer is to go with JT if you insist on running a JT style offensive.
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THIS. This is honestly the reason I blame this more on the coaches than on Cardale. Sure the offense wasn't as smooth with Cardale but the coaches did nothing to help him. Every time the offense would do something positive with CJ in the game, they'd fucking put Brax in the Wildcat or call something equally as dumb for a 5 yard loss. Cardale was in 3rd in long all night because of this dumb shit. How you don't let a QB that just threw for nearly 300 yards on 75% passing the week before throw down the field tonight is mind boggling. Yeah JT looked good tonight but I want to see how this offense looks when teams actually know he's starting.
 
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Clarity said:
Alright, folks. I'm going to sign off Twitter and call it a night.

I have to think JTB16 is our new starter. I will admit to being enthusiastic about that. But let me say this ... Cardale, like JTB16 and BM1, holds a legendary place in Ohio State history. His play in those three games was nothing short of astonishing, given the circumstances. I want to win. I want to win another title. Here's the thing though -- I want to see Cardale having fun again. I want to see that big smile and that swagger. JT Barrett and Cardale Jones are still an amazing duo, it's still a great problem to have -- even though the play has not been there. We can hypothesize about what ails the passing game -- I have every confidence that @alexhortdog95 has a suggestion, and he may well be right. Or maybe it's Cardale trying too hard, or maybe it's just growing pains and dysfunction -- who knows?

What I do know is Cardale is a National Champion. Not just a National Champion, but one of the few (like Zeke, like JTB, like a few others) who we can say, with reasonable fairness, without them we wouldn't have been national champions.

Cardale is now and forever will be a legend. It could well be that more of his legend will still be written, who knows. We can (and I don't speak for everyone) pull to see JTB16 start next week, but (and I think I do speak for everyone here) if we see CJ12 roll out, then we should want nothing more in the world than to see him play the way we KNOW he can -- if, that is, he's given a scheme that suits his tremendous abilities.

I worry now, after this game, more than any other point in the season about CJ's ego and confidence. I loved the "JT. JT, JT" chant, loved to see the offense respond to the spark he provided -- and behind all of that was an itch; how Cardale must feel with the stadium shaking as JTB16 continues to put up points. Points in the RZ opportunities before, points as the presumptive starter now.

I only have one child. But I think I start to understand the difficulty that must come with having two in situations wherein the success of one casts a difficult shadow over the other. Tough situation.

Let's take particular care to be, well, BPish about Cardale (and all our players) in these threads. I get frustrated like everyone else, and while it doesn't always work, remembering the magic that was the final run to the title last year tends to bring me right out of that. Quite a few of the guys on this team have earned our unwavering respect and appreciation, Cardale is certainly one of them. Kid is out there doing his best, maybe trying too hard. Want the best for him, even as I look forward to what should be a JTB16 start next week against Rutgers.
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I'm all in on @Clarity being our starting Admin. @Buckeyeskickbuttocks and @jwinslow just aren't living up to the hype. BKB is too many of us. Obviously feels entitled. And Josh is too busy taking awesome pics to lead us...
 
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