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tOSU Recruiting Discussion

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So if I understand these new rules correctly, the schools can pay current roster employees (players) a share of revenue. There is a salary cap and the death panel to watch our for bullshit NIL deals. Right?

If I want to start poking at the does of gaming this system, what is to stop my collective from offering a signing bonus tied to a 5 year contract to play at my school, then stashing that kid at another school for the first year or two to let them develop?

Shouldn't count against my salary cap until I call them up, no?
There's a lot of holes if you think about it. Like the HS kids don't count towards the NIL salary cap, so these deals being offered to the 2026 class I believe are through collectives and not the actual school. Hence why USC can offer a TE $10mil(of X amount of years). At least that's what I think I understand from reading
 
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I believe the buy out rule only kicks in if the player transfers after they are already enrolled at the school. They can flip to as many schools as they want during the recruiting process.
This is from Birm:
These are things we can't really know yet, but can assume it will be based on the individual's specific arrangment.
And from a BH poster:
Would all depend on if they signed any contract/language of said contract or accepted any money already.

If they aren't 18 yet, can they even enter into a contract (or is that parent/guardian thing)?
Yes, parents/guardians are a thing. But what parent/guardian would not want to sign off of on a 6 or 7 figure contract?
 
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yeah, I was thinking sort of in the terms of buyouts and breaches
Gotcha. Well, speaking generally I wouldn’t think a number of these kids parents are reading the fine print, or have attorneys to read over such things. Heck, some have random “family members “ advising them(remember former 5star Keon Keeley and his uncle), and many are single parents(mainly moms) just happy their kid is going to school for free and getting paid. They don’t know how much money is involved. I remember saying in the Jakobe Klapper thread that my wife is friends with his mom, and she had no clue how NIL. She was about to set up a gofundme to pay for trips to colleges out of the Midwest region because she didn’t think she could afford The travel costs. I had to tell my wife to tell her that she won’t be worrying about money for a long time when he signs with ND. These single moms are working multiple jobs just to get these kids through HS, and many have multiple kids to worry about as well. Some Of these moms are bartenders, secretary’s, teachers, etc, they have no idea what a buyout or breach is
 
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Had a HS golfer, back in the day, that won more matches with his rulebook than he did with his sticks. Point being, that taking things to the edge seems to be the new normal. Give you last year's Oregon loss....always said I'll take the white and the gray, but won't venture into the black (illegal) areas of an issue. Guess some of the sharper young minds are making a living pushing the envelope.
 
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Had a HS golfer, back in the day, that won more matches with his rulebook than he did with his sticks. Point being, that taking things to the edge seems to be the new normal. Give you last year's Oregon loss....always said I'll take the white and the gray, but won't venture into the black (illegal) areas of an issue. Guess some of the sharper young minds are making a living pushing the envelope.
This isn’t the young minds pushing anything. Teenage boys are still idiots. It’s the adults pushing the envelope. The NIL collectives know that they’re a separate entity from the salary cap rules that have just been enacted for programs. That’s why we’re seeing the massive deals from Oregon, USC, scUM, Texas Tech, aTm, etc. None of that money is coming from the schools but from the independent collectives. There’s still no rules on collectives, I saw this coming even when the House settlement was signed. Because they never have direct rules to collectives, and those boosters almost all have attorneys to make sure they can still steer talent to their school
 
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This isn’t the young minds pushing anything. Teenage boys are still idiots. It’s the adults pushing the envelope. The NIL collectives know that they’re a separate entity from the salary cap rules that have just been enacted for programs. That’s why we’re seeing the massive deals from Oregon, USC, scUM, Texas Tech, aTm, etc. None of that money is coming from the schools but from the independent collectives. There’s still no rules on collectives, I saw this coming even when the House settlement was signed. Because they never have direct rules to collectives, and those boosters almost all have attorneys to make sure they can still steer talent to their school

Keep in mind the only envelope being pushed is the Universities pushing the SCOTUS ruling and trying to make rules that restrict what private, tax paying U.S. citizens can earn.

There should be no rules until the players are allowed to collectively bargain with the powers that be.
 
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So if I understand these new rules correctly, the schools can pay current roster employees (players) a share of revenue. There is a salary cap and the death panel to watch our for bullshit NIL deals. Right?

If I want to start poking at the does of gaming this system, what is to stop my collective from offering a signing bonus tied to a 5 year contract to play at my school, then stashing that kid at another school for the first year or two to let them develop?

Shouldn't count against my salary cap until I call them up, no?
If I remember correctly, we discussed this before when the NCAA changed the rule and now time spent playing at a JC no longer counts towards his/her 5 years to play 4 eligibility. I can definitely see the big schools working deals to stash players there for a year or two for development purposes and make it worth the players while to do so.
 
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If I remember correctly, we discussed this before when the NCAA changed the rule and now time spent playing at a JC no longer counts towards his/her 5 years to play 4 eligibility. I can definitely see the big schools working deals to stash players there for a year or two for development purposes and make it worth the players while to do so.
It’s possible but it seems like so few have half way decent facilities. I can see more kids going the route of smaller D1(I.e. Sunbelt, MAC, AAC, etc), or transferring multiple times starting from say D2 or FCS.
 
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