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tOSU Recruiting Discussion



Woody Hayes: Can you explain in detail what exactly the Buckeye bash is since coaches and staff members can't host?

Helwagen: Bill Kurelic talked with Jack Sawyer about it and the explanation may be in one of the interviews he posted with him today.

Generally, since there were no camps or recruiting days in spring or summer, none of the guys in the 2021 class have ever seen each other or laid eyes on one another. Jack Sawyer said would be great to get everybody together and since most of them aren't playing they said why not come in for a game weekend.

Of course, this remains a dead period for recruiting. That means coaches and school can't formally host them in the facility or at a game or visit with them in person (in office, at WHAC, at practice, at stadium, anywhere). So the coaches are probably providing the group that is coming in with information on where they should go on campus on their own to check things out, sight see and get their bearings.

They can't come to the game or hang with players, either, unfortunately. It is all an informal thing organized by a few prospects and their parents. They may go to a restaurant somewhere and watch the game together. I don't have an itinerary or anything.

So coaches can't welcome them or greet them. They can probably converse by text and FaceTime etc. but that's it.

And, no, Ohio State is not at a disadvantage. Other schools can't welcome prospects, either.
 
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IMPORTANCE OF PEER RECRUITING
Arguably the biggest factor in why the Buckeyes have this sudden jolt of momentum on the recruiting trail is the work of C.J. Hicks and Dasan McCullough, the two 2022 commits who have been at the forefront of peer recruiting in the class.

On Thursday, Day was asked about how vital peer recruiting is when building a class, and the essence of his message was something we've long said – a lot of times it can be even more crucial than the coaches' recruitment, and it's become even more imperative during the dead period.

“It's huge, and I think that because of 2020, there's the Zooms and the FaceTimes, Microsoft Teams, Skype, there's just so many ways to communicate now that that's really been big, more than ever before,” Day said. “Group type of stuff that's gone on has been really strong, and that's why when you recruit guys in your class, you wanna bring in leaders, guys of high character so that they bring those types of guys in there because they spend more time with the recruits than we do. I think that's really, really important.

“I think Mark Pantoni and his staff have done a great job of doing that. And this time, even though there hasn't been as much time to recruit, that's what Mark's paid for, man. That's his job. He does a great job at it, and I'm proud of the way that, even during this time when we haven't had face-to-face contact with people, we're still connecting with recruits. That's a tribute to the whole staff, Mark's staff. So we've just gotta stay on top of that and keep it going.”

Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...nter-of-recruiting-world-domani-jackson-s-dad
 
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SKULL SESSION: OHIO STATE IS SOON-TO-BE QBU, JUSTIN FIELDS IS ON A MISSION, AND SEAN CLIFFORD HAS SOME CONFIDENCE

TURNING INTO QBU.
When those lists come out every offseason ranking the best program at producing NFL talent at each position, there isn't a soul arguing that Ohio State even belongs in the discussion as QBU.

Before Dwayne Haskins in 2019, Ohio State hadn't produced a first-round quarterback since 1983 and the most successful former Buckeye quarterback in NFL history is currently a free agent wide receiver.

But Ryan Day's changing that perception in a hurry.

"Ryan designs less for the quarterback to run than Urban might have," said Tressel, Ohio State's head coach from 2001 to 2010. "Urban liked the quarterback run and had a lot of success doing it. There's a lot of ways to get it done, but when you've got a guy who can throw it like Fields can or Burrow or Haskins, you'd just as soon they'd throw it rather than run it."

Haskins' success in 2018 changed the view of Ohio State's quarterback position. "That's when quarterbacks, they were almost calling us," Meyer said. Pantoni noticed that quarterback prospects and their parents became less concerned about the injury risk Ohio State's offense posed.

Day's impact translated to recruiting, as Ohio State added C.J. Stroud, ESPN's No. 2 pocket passer in the 2020 class, and Jack Miller, ESPN's No. 16 pocket passer.

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The most important eyes watching Haskins belonged to a quarterback Ohio State didn't secure through recruiting. Fields was the nation's No. 1 recruit in 2018 when he signed with Georgia. But after a frustrating freshman season, Fields chose to transfer and picked Ohio State.

In his first news conference as a Buckeye, Fields explained his decision, saying of Day, "He knows what it takes to get quarterbacks to the NFL."

"We got Justin in the transfer," Wilson said. "I don't know if that would have happened if Dwayne wouldn't have been here."

And Day's got five-star Kyle McCord locked up in the 2021 class with Quinn Ewers, the No. 2 overall player in the 2022 class, presumably heading to Ohio State next (spoilers, sorry).

Maybe Ohio State's not QBU in the classic sense, but it sure seems like the Buckeyes are QBU in the eyes of every elite quarterback making their college decisions. If you'd like to know which is more important, just take a gander at USC.

Entire article; https://www.elevenwarriors.com/skul...mission-and-sean-clifford-has-some-confidence

Just sayin': Burrow....Haskins....Fields....Stroud....Miller....McCord....and (maybe) Ewers; the quality of the QBs coming to Ohio State is absolutely amazing.
 
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Script, 'back in the day', Woody opined (many, many times), that when you pass the ball, three things can happen, and two of them are bad. Back then I agreed (Dad took me to the Monday meeting with Woody several times a season). With a qb such as Justin, 20 out of 21 is a ratio that MIGHT bring a smile to Woody's face. Actually did see one, as on one of those Mondays, he was addressing Rotary Club, and after tOSU whupped up on Illinois, he said that Dick Butkus was quoted as saying, "I like OSU, they run right at you". With a smile on his face, he said, "well, we ran right at him, and over him". go Bucks!
 
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I’m wondering if the program’s support of recruits’/current players’ actions and publicly stated opposition of inequality and other social issues is positively influencing recruiting. I also think these player voices segments are a good thing too; I haven’t really come across that anywhere else unless I’m just not paying enough attention.

Under no circumstances am I trying to bring politics or a discussion of contemporary issues to this area but if future generations of athletes aspire to effectuate positive change and make their positions known in a public juncture and they see this program as an initial Avenue throigh which that can be achieved and supported, I think this can be an excellent development.
 
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I’m wondering if the program’s support of recruits’/current players’ actions and publicly stated opposition of inequality and other social issues is positively influencing recruiting. I also think these player voices segments are a good thing too; I haven’t really come across that anywhere else unless I’m just not paying enough attention.

Under no circumstances am I trying to bring politics or a discussion of contemporary issues but if future generations of athletes aspire to effectuate positive change and make their positions known in a public juncture and they see this program as an initial Avenue throigh which that can be achieved and supported, I think this can be an excellent development.
If the idea is to treat these guys as young people growing into men and not simply as good football players, then I would think a "selling point" of encouraging young men to come to appreciate what's going on around them and how to take a leadership role in hard real life situations would be big. We've heard about "Real Life Wednesdays" for a while now. I have to think it makes a difference, and I believe some recruits specifically have mentioned that as a difference between OSU and a lot of other places.
 
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If the idea is to treat these guys as young people growing into men and not simply as good football players, then I would think a "selling point" of encouraging young men to come to appreciate what's going on around them and how to take a leadership role in hard real life situations would be big. We've heard about "Real Life Wednesdays" for a while now. I have to think it makes a difference, and I believe some recruits specifically have mentioned that as a difference between OSU and a lot of other places.
Real Life Wednesdays make me especially proud to be a Buckeye. The young men who play football at Ohio State are much better prepared for life as a result of this great Urban initiative.
 
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“As we project it out, we actually don’t think we’ll be over 85 next fall with guys moving onto the NFL, with different guys graduating,” Day said. “I think we’re gonna be in a good place. I think we’ve got a good handle on it. There’s a little bit of unknown there as some guys may try to come back, some guys may not. That’s a little bit imperfect, but I think for the most part we have a good handle on it. I don’t think we’ll be much over 85 going into the fall. Could be wrong, but that’s what we’re planning and forecasting out.”

Based on what Day said there, it appears that Ohio State is going to take exactly the size of the class that it wants to in 2021 and 2022, and it looks like the number is going to continue to be at 23 players in 2021 as we have been projecting for a while now.
 
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