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tOSU Recruiting Discussion

Buckeye86;2348388; said:
I think that is exactly what people are worried about right now with some of these underrated players. You claimed that Tressel didn't do that initially but now I guess you are agreeing with me?



I think the "get what we can when we can" attitude represents a huge difference in the way Urban Meyer goes about recruiting.

I don't think saying that Meyer and Tressel are extremely different recruiters takes anything away from the unparalleled success that Tressel had on the field.

We took five OL in the 2011 class. Only one was a 4-star (Bobek) and he committed on Mar 16, 2010, nearly ten months before NLOID. We had three 3-stars (Brown, Carter, Underwood) two of whom committed around the time Bobek did with the other (Carter) commiting after NLOID, and a 2-star (Haynes) who commmited a few days before NLOID. So, the only "early projects" would've been Brown and Underwood. Our OL recruiting was just bad that year. Meyer has two OL so far this class and both are 4-stars, so that's better on paper, and go back again to "Block O" where on paper Tressel absolutely killed it but in the end it didn't pan out anywhere near as expected.

Tressel took his share of 3-stars, but many turned out pretty darn well (Hawk, Holmes, Laurinaitis, Jenkins). Meyer is also taking some 3-stars and taking them early, yet no one is saying he's reaching.

I personally prefer Meyer's approach a bit over Tressel's (get the best talent, regardless of where they'd from vice focusing mainly on locking down Ohio), but I still say overall their approaches are not that dissimilar (wanting kids who want to be Buckeyes, quality personalities in additional to quality talent, and willing to take kids who aren't rated high by the services but in reality are solid talents).
 
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Slightly offtopic but I have been wondering lately if Tressel isnt PARTLY responsible for the down cycle in the BIG. Not only was his ability and style akin to an anaconda suffocating his opponents into submission with such consistancy that few teams were able to generate the hoopla or hope of taking the conference that they needed to convince top recruits to come to their schools.

Further by keeping his recruiting crosshairs aimed directly at the midwest and more specifically at Ohio the smaller schools werent able to pick at the carcass that would be left over by a national recruiter like Cooper or Meyer. We are seeing it now with Kentucky raiding Ohio for players Meyer isnt offering and making a killing doing so. I just wonder with Meyer widening the nets allowing more local talents to filter down the foodchain if we dont see a marked uptick in the success of whichever school are able to capitalize on the newly unguarded midwest.
 
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Nobody not even Meyer thought we would get the trio of Wilson, Bell, and Clark...that was a grand slam.

Meyer did not even know Bell had committed until he got a phone call while he was on the treadmill in the afternoon of NLOID.

Tressel was a great coach but he would not have gotten those 3...maybe not even one of them.

The 2014 class OSU is putting together is ridiculous. It's also underrated. 9 guys going to the opening with a realistic shot at 7-8 more attendees at the event...just plain ridiculous.

The transgressions that happened during the Tressel Era have also cost Meyer 3 scholarships to work with. That is huge IMO when you are changing the style of play.

The return game is gonna ridiculous under Meyer. I think ST's turns it around this year.

Meyer has 2 undefeated seasons and 2 UNC's...he's looking down the barrel of another undefeated/NC season...Imagine being 26-0 after this season..it's a reality. Imagine the 15 recruiting class and momentum if that happens...especially when we get those schollies back.

Tressel put us where we should be and Meyer is gonna take us to the next level.
 
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QB:
Stephen Collier - Leesburg (GA) Lee County HS; 6'4" 210 lbs
Rivals **
Scout *** #57 QB
247 *** #18 Dual QB, #50 GA
ESPN


Percy:

Parris Campbell Jr. - Akron, St Vincent - St Mary HS; 6'0" 185 lbs
Rivals *** #23 RB, #22 Ohio
Scout **** #9 RB, #59 National
247 **** #21 WR, #4 OH, #130 National
ESPN **** #44 RB, #11 OH


Wide Receiver:
Lonnie Johnson - Gary (IN), West Side HS; 6'3" 180 lbs
Rivals *** #30 WR, #6 IN
Scout *** #49 WR
247 **** #22 S, #3 IN
ESPN **** #45 WR, #5 IN

Terry McLaurin - Indianapolis (IN), Cathedral HS; 6'0" 190 lbs
Rivals *** #66 WR, #7 IN
Scout *** #53 WR
247 *** #49 WR, #6 IN
ESPN


Offensive Line:
Marcelys Jones - Cleveland Glenville; 6'4", 350 lbs
Rivals **** #12 OG, #13 OH
Scout *** #29 OG
247 **** #5 OG, #3 OH, #96 National
ESPN *** #42 OG, #28 OH

Kyle Trout - Lancaster HS; 6'6" 294 lbs
Rivals **** #21 OT, #10 OH, #230 National
Scout **** #14 OT, #133 National
247 **** #15 OT, #9 OH, #201 National
ESPN *** #22 OT, #13 OH

Jamarco Jones - Chicago (IL), De La Salle HS; 6'5" 290 lbs
Rivals **** #13 OT, #3 IL, #97 National
Scout **** #6 OT, #52 National
247 **** #5 OT, #2 IL, #43 National
ESPN **** #8 OT, #3 IL, #66 National


Defensive Line:
Dylan Thompson - Lombard (IL) Montini Catholic HS; 6'5" 270 lbs
Rivals *** #16 SDE, #14 IL
Scout *** #34 DE
247 *** #20 SDE, #12 IL
ESPN **** #34 DT, #13 IL

Jalyn Holmes - Norfolk (VA), Lake Taylor HS; 6'5" 235 lbs
Rivals **** #3 WDE, #5 VA, #48 National
Scout **** #11 DE, #98 National
247 **** #4 WDE, #4 VA, #41 National
ESPN **** #6 TE, #7 VA, #293 National


Linebacker:
Sam Hubbard Cincinnati Archbishop Moeller; 6'6" 225 lbs
Rivals *** #33 OLB, #30 OH
Scout **** #3 OLB, #84 National
247 **** #21 Ath, #11 OH, #225 National
ESPN *** #37 OLB, #25 OH

Kyle Berger - Cleveland St. Ignatius; 6'2" 215 lbs
Rivals **** #12 OLB, #9 OH, #216 National
Scout **** #2 OLB, #47 National
247 **** #10 OLB, #6 OH, #140 National
ESPN **** #22 OLB, #9 OH, #299 National

Dante Booker - St Vincent-St Mary (HS); 6'3" 215 lbs
Rivals **** #10 ILB, #2 OH, #108 National
Scout **** #8 OLB, #140 National
247 **** #4 OLB, #2 OH, #84 National
ESPN **** #8 OLB, #3 OH, #156 National


Defensive Back:
Damon Webb - Detroit (TSUN) Cass HS; 5'11" 180 lbs
Rivals **** #6 CB, #2 TSUN, #35 National
Scout **** #6 CB, #35 National
247 **** #10 CB, #3 TSUN, #97 National
ESPN **** #8 CB, #1 TSUN, #57 National


Kicker/Punter:
Sean Nuernberger - Buckner (KY), Oldham Co HS; 6'2" 220 lbs
Rivals
Scout ***
247
ESPN


Preferred Walk-On:
Jeff Greene - Fayetteville (GA), Starr's Mill HS; 6'4" 210 lbs - Transfer from Georgia Tech
Rivals ***
Scout *** #132 WR
247 ***
ESPN *** #96 WR, #81 GA


Added Jamarco Jones
 
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With Jones' commitment, Ohio State's class is now ranked:

#2 by 247
#3 by Scout
#8 by Rivals
#17 by ESPN

I couldn't care less about the actual rankings, but I thought it was a pretty concise summary of the biases of each service.

Scout and 247 are more favorable to the Midwest than Rivals, and ESPN is absolutely off their rocker terrible.
 
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brutus2002;2348485; said:
Nobody not even Meyer thought we would get the trio of Wilson, Bell, and Clark...that was a grand slam.

Meyer did not even know Bell had committed until he got a phone call while he was on the treadmill in the afternoon of NLOID.

Tressel was a great coach but he would not have gotten those 3...maybe not even one of them.

The 2014 class OSU is putting together is ridiculous. It's also underrated. 9 guys going to the opening with a realistic shot at 7-8 more attendees at the event...just plain ridiculous.

The transgressions that happened during the Tressel Era have also cost Meyer 3 scholarships to work with. That is huge IMO when you are changing the style of play.

The return game is gonna ridiculous under Meyer. I think ST's turns it around this year.

Meyer has 2 undefeated seasons and 2 UNC's...he's looking down the barrel of another undefeated/NC season...Imagine being 26-0 after this season..it's a reality. Imagine the 15 recruiting class and momentum if that happens...especially when we get those schollies back.

Tressel put us where we should be and Meyer is gonna take us to the next level.

Well said.
 
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NJ-Buckeye;2349521; said:
Wondering how many more OTs we might be after... assuming it's ONE
Maverty, Prince or Eluemunor... who is the best of the lot?


I was hoping it was closer to 2-3. O line depth with a lot of talent hasn't been seen at osu in a while. And you're also missing Knox, I haven't given up hope on him. I'd take any of those 3 and not look back,but id also want another one of those linemen too
 
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Most of what I read about Knox says guard.. but the film I saw.. screamed tackle... I think Knox is excellent

As for 2-3 more OTs... you could be right
I'd like to get some spacing.. and nab 3 more for 2015
 
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