tOSU Recruiting Discussion

[Oh8ch]

True, but paternos no longer the HC. And like previously stated, if they committed amidst the scandal, its a small chance they're flipping. The kids that committed seem like lifelong psu fans and always wanted to go there. Just like a number of kids that committed to us last year in the middle of our scandal(granted ours is nowhere near the same magnitude )

Scandal is one thing, sanctions are another. It would be easy for O'Brien to sell the idea that this had nothing to do with the football program - until it does. Even then the hard core PA kids may want to stick around unless it gets really scary, which it may. Without sanctions the financial issues PSU could be facing are staggering (read the details on their recent contribution reports before commenting on what that means). Sure, that money does not come directly from the football program. But how do you improve facilities for football and ignore what is happening on the other side when it is clear that the money is being paid out as a result of what happened on the football side?

Read the posts on the PSU sites and it sounds like those folks will never give up. But look more closely and you will find that the more rational posters are no longer represented.

Lots of details to be sorted out but an astute parent of a recruit is likely to be asking themselves a lot of hard questions between now and February.

 

[Taosman]

Scandal is one thing, sanctions are another. It would be easy for O'Brien to sell the idea that this had nothing to do with the football program - until it does. Even then the hard core PA kids may want to stick around unless it gets really scary, which it may. Without sanctions the financial issues PSU could be facing are staggering (read the details on their recent contribution reports before commenting on what that means). Sure, that money does not come directly from the football program. But how do you improve facilities for football and ignore what is happening on the other side when it is clear that the money is being paid out as a result of what happened on the football side?

Read the posts on the PSU sites and it sounds like those folks will never give up. But look more closely and you will find that the more rational posters are no longer represented.

Lots of details to be sorted out but an astute parent of a recruit is likely to be asking themselves a lot of hard questions between now and February.

Indeed, sanctions are a whole nother ball game.
And the Nitwits have chased or threatened all the rational fans off! And there are a lot of Nitwits over there in denial.
If sanctions hit, parents and kids will certainly reconsider their options.
I believe so much information will be available to the NCAA(from the multiple investigations) that it will find plenty to hand down a LOIC.

 

[jbawjbaw]

A potential LOIC charge still wouldn't have a huge effect on this class. They could take one of the bowl ban years this year which would have 0 effect on them. If they were to get a 2nd year ban these recruits would only miss 1 bowl much like this year's incoming buckeye class. It didn't seem to effect them much.

 

[BearBuck27]

A potential LOIC charge still wouldn't have a huge effect on this class. They could take one of the bowl ban years this year which would have 0 effect on them. If they were to get a 2nd year ban these recruits would only miss 1 bowl much like this year's incoming buckeye class. It didn't seem to effect them much.

I would say if the NCAA steps in it will be after the trials of the other university heads are completed. Meaning they song start their investigation until, I believe, after the season starts. No way the NCAA gets that case wrapped before December, meaning a postseason van would effect the 2013 and beyond seasons.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

A potential LOIC charge still wouldn't have a huge effect on this class. They could take one of the bowl ban years this year which would have 0 effect on them. If they were to get a 2nd year ban these recruits would only miss 1 bowl much like this year's incoming buckeye class. It didn't seem to effect them much.

Could also result in a significant loss of scholarships. A major hit on the Penn State "brand" could sway any but the most loyal of commits...

 

[jbawjbaw]

Could also result in a significant loss of scholarships. A major hit on the Penn State "brand" could sway any but the most loyal of commits...

Once again, I think even with scholly reductions most of them stick.

USC isn't having any problems recruiting with scholly reductions. I know psu isn't USC, but they know who their coach will be and that is 90% of it IMO.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Once again, I think even with scholly reductions most of them stick.

USC isn't having any problems recruiting with scholly reductions. I know psu isn't USC, but they know who their coach will be and that is 90% of it IMO.

USC has been a major force in college football over the last decade and is located in LA...PSU hasn't and isn't.

 

[pnuts34]

USC has been a major force in college football over the last decade and is located in LA...PSU hasn't and isn't.

Being located in LA doesn't really matter nationally to kids. Just look at their recruiting classes, most are from SoCal. And it helps that its a fertile ground for HS football, but kids from all over the country don't necessarily go to usc because of its location. Small college towns like happy valley bring in just as many top tier recruits, look at the entire sec, not one major city in the conference. Well maybe Nashville. Imo, the kids psu recruited truly love the school and want to be there regardless of the outcome. And there will be little to none leaving. Yes, I may be wrong and feel free to ridicule me if I am. But it seems like the new coach strategically went after players that he knew wanted to be loyal to the psu brand.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Being located in LA doesn't really matter nationally to kids. Just look at their recruiting classes, most are from SoCal. And it helps that its a fertile ground for HS football, but kids from all over the country don't necessarily go to usc because of its location. Small college towns like happy valley bring in just as many top tier recruits, look at the entire sec, not one major city in the conference. Well maybe Nashville. Imo, the kids psu recruited truly love the school and want to be there regardless of the outcome. And there will be little to none leaving. Yes, I may be wrong and feel free to ridicule me if I am. But it seems like the new coach strategically went after players that he knew wanted to be loyal to the psu brand.

Just like none of them decommitted and committed to us after the Sandusky stuff broke?

I'm not saying there will be a mass defection of commits if the NCAA hits PSU hard, but to say that none of the kids who committed during the Sandusky scandal will decommit even if PSU gets hit with LOIC is incorrect.

 

[TDunk]

Just like none of them decommitted and committed to us after the Sandusky stuff broke?

I'm not saying there will be a mass defection of commits if the NCAA hits PSU hard, but to say that none of the kids who committed during the Sandusky scandal will decommit even if PSU gets hit with LOIC is incorrect.

That Sandusky thing also involved a new HC at that school for the first time in decades. That instability played a huge role. But I could see a few defect if they get hit by sanctions.

 

[jbawjbaw]

That Sandusky thing also involved a new HC at that school for the first time in decades. That instability played a huge role. But I could see a few defect if they get hit by sanctions.

This. I would guess that almost all of them stick.

 

[ShowMeBuck]

I would guess that it doesn't matter because Urban is UFM and we are The Ohio State University.

 

[maximumblitz]

http://www.daytondailynews.com/dayt...kes-impact-in-recruiting-efforts-1405061.html

We all know this, but this makes it slightly more official.

Ya gotta hold on to hope, ya gotta hang on sloopy:

Kurelic said the Buckeyes are among the leaders for several top uncommitted prospects, and they?ll need a strong finish to keep pace with Michigan, which has been revived by second-year coach Brady Hoke. The Wolverines have the consensus No. 1 class in the nation and have landed 11 of ESPN.com?s top-150 players, more than any school.
Eight of Michigan?s 22 recruits hail from Ohio, including linebacker Michael McCray of Trotwood (the state?s third-best prospect), safety Dymonte Thomas (fourth) and tight end Jake Butt (seventh).
?He?s recruited well, but last year he had a class that was highly ranked all throughout the process, and then in the end Ohio State finished ahead of him,? Kurelic said. ?Brady Hoke took guys earlier that weren?t guys Ohio State offered. Ohio State saved those scholarships and got even more highly ranked players, and I can see the same thing happening again this year.
?Michigan is close to being filled up. I don?t think they?re going to get a lot of bump recruiting wise in January and on signing day, where Ohio State has a chance, like last year, to have a big bump where they get a lot of great players at the end.?

The full article has additional interesting info.

 

[Krenzelicious]

Enquirer - 50 area football players to watch in the 2013 class

7/17

Marshall tops the list.

 

[ShowMeBuck]

So, we have Jalin and now today Taivon. Knowing UFM desire for more playmakers on offense, do we land 2 more? 2 from Foster/Quick/Allan/Gibson. Wow. I can't even imagine.

That would put us at 17. Add Bell, Mitchell for 19. 20 for Tyquan and 21 for an OL recruit.

YES PLEASE!!!!!! That class would be absolutely sick. And very, very balanced too. Talk about covering every base!

I have no idea if 21 is our number, seems like I read 20 or 21 total.

Urban has talked fondly before about his best recruiting classes at FLA and you can just see in his eyes he is trying for the same thing in this, his first full class. He is well on his way to making this happen. Look out B1G.