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lvbuckeye
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daddyphatsacs;1988726; said:
the Buckeyes have played TWO games. where, exactly, has Fickell, "continued to make statements saying how they plan to use a 2 QB system and not played the 2nd QB at all?" Brax played six series last week. he was supposed to play the 3rd series and more this week, but due to circumstances out of his control it didn't happen. if this was week six, you'd have an argument. Coach Fick stated that they planned to bring Brax in early, and explained why it didn't happen. you're jumping the gun.
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Yertle
Pounding out aggression, turns into obsession
I know nearly all of this has been brought up in one form or another in the last dozen pages of posts, but some main thoughts for me:
1. Anyone who says this was the most frustrating Buckeye game they've seen needs to watch more Buckeye games. Wisconsin 2010? Purdue 2009? Texas 2009? USC 2008? Just to name a few in recent memory.
2. Anyone who says this was the most frustrating WIN they've ever seen needs to watch more Buckeye games. Cincy 2002? San Diego State 2003? Ohio 2008?
3. Hopefully, Mewhort learned his lesson with his "MACrificial Lambs" comment. I wonder how his crow tasted... after all, I didn't see the line blowing Toledo off the ball with gaping holes for RB's and all day for Baus to pass. Mewhort, keep your FREAKING MOUTH SHUT. STFU.
4. Defensive adjustments? With Fick, Vrabel, and Heacock so involved in the defense, you'd think the flare screen would be diagnosed and stopped... eventually. Nope. I didn't notice much of any adjustments to that play. Scary.
5. Rod Smith deserves to be the 5th string TB. Seems to have loads of upside, but when you nearly caused the first in-state loss since my great-grandfather was crapping his diapers (as a baby), then you need to sit until you learn how to hang on to the ball.
6. GREAT GAME to take my 7 year old to his first Buckeye game! No complaints there!!! He was PUMPED! The whole "Toledo thing" is lost on him.
7. Anyone who thinks our biggest problem is whether Baus or Miller is playing, needs to watch more football. Or maybe a lot less... as in none. Biggest problem was we got pushed around, especially our O-line. The d-line woke up and stood its ground eventually, but we lost the battle in the trenches on BOTH sides of the ball in the first half. Comparing this to the Baus/Miller thing is pointless. Don't tell me Miller is going to force the O-line to man up.
8. We are missing play-makers. The suspensions aren't helping, but we have a lot of really good players on O, but no GREAT ones.
9. Our DB's are solid. Very solid.
10. I'm willing to bet that this Toledo team is better than the 2002 Cincy team. Let's all chill a bit.
1. Anyone who says this was the most frustrating Buckeye game they've seen needs to watch more Buckeye games. Wisconsin 2010? Purdue 2009? Texas 2009? USC 2008? Just to name a few in recent memory.
2. Anyone who says this was the most frustrating WIN they've ever seen needs to watch more Buckeye games. Cincy 2002? San Diego State 2003? Ohio 2008?
3. Hopefully, Mewhort learned his lesson with his "MACrificial Lambs" comment. I wonder how his crow tasted... after all, I didn't see the line blowing Toledo off the ball with gaping holes for RB's and all day for Baus to pass. Mewhort, keep your FREAKING MOUTH SHUT. STFU.
4. Defensive adjustments? With Fick, Vrabel, and Heacock so involved in the defense, you'd think the flare screen would be diagnosed and stopped... eventually. Nope. I didn't notice much of any adjustments to that play. Scary.
5. Rod Smith deserves to be the 5th string TB. Seems to have loads of upside, but when you nearly caused the first in-state loss since my great-grandfather was crapping his diapers (as a baby), then you need to sit until you learn how to hang on to the ball.
6. GREAT GAME to take my 7 year old to his first Buckeye game! No complaints there!!! He was PUMPED! The whole "Toledo thing" is lost on him.
7. Anyone who thinks our biggest problem is whether Baus or Miller is playing, needs to watch more football. Or maybe a lot less... as in none. Biggest problem was we got pushed around, especially our O-line. The d-line woke up and stood its ground eventually, but we lost the battle in the trenches on BOTH sides of the ball in the first half. Comparing this to the Baus/Miller thing is pointless. Don't tell me Miller is going to force the O-line to man up.
8. We are missing play-makers. The suspensions aren't helping, but we have a lot of really good players on O, but no GREAT ones.
9. Our DB's are solid. Very solid.
10. I'm willing to bet that this Toledo team is better than the 2002 Cincy team. Let's all chill a bit.
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Yertle;1989261; said:
I'm probably included in that comment, so I'd like to respond.
First of all, when I referred to the frustration and disappointment I experienced, it was was in the context of games that I had attended, not all games ever played. And while I didn't attend any of the games you listed as examples, I have been to plenty of underwhelming Ohio State games.
Secondly, my frustration and disappointment do not necessarily stem from losing or the prospect of losing. There's no shame in struggling against great teams, or teams that do a lot of things really well. To me, there's really no sense in getting frustrated in an Ohio State team that comes out flat because with college kids that's going to happen every once in a while.
Where I get frustrated is when the Buckeyes are getting beat by a team that is basically only running three different plays with any sort of success. I get frustrated when I'm sitting in the stands and can call out what the other team is about to do, but the players and/or coaches seem to have no idea. Despite not getting frustrated by the occasional malaise, I do get upset when that attitude is not immediately erased by a blocked punt that was nearly housed by the other team and a first quarter 2-pt. conversion. Despite not getting frustrated by the malaise, I do get frustrated when the players on the field turn to the crowd, wave their arms and ask me to raise my intensity when they clearly haven't raised their own intensity first.
As I said earlier in the thread, I've seen plenty of bad Buckeye football in my day, and I've been at The 'Shoe for plenty of losses and sleepwalks. To me, the only game that I've been to in person that frustrated me to this extent was the loss to Minnesota in 2000.
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daddyphatsacs
Let the cards fall...
lvbuckeye;1989169; said:
We'll agree to disagree. I'm not going to get in a back and forth with you here about a small issue. Historically I am a "trust the coach" kind of guy. I guess Fickell has to earn it in my case, due to never having been a head coach and all. It's plain as day to see how bad of a hand he was dealt. He is one of my all time favorite Buckeye players and I am pulling for him. I guess we'll revisit this conversation in week 6 and see who ends up being right.
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Telekinesis
Mix it with the relish!
stowfan;1989317; said:
I hope Toledo wins. They have what it takes, just depends on execution.
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Telekinesis;1989319; said:
HineyBuck;1989336; said:
I guaran-fucking-tee you that if Boise State blows out Toledo they'll spin that to show how badly Ohio State sucks...
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scarletngray
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MaliBuckeye;1989448; said:
Reminds me a bit of Ted Ginn Jr.
Let's hope that this is the first of many...
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