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The bulky left-hander threw dozens of passes to former teammates Riley Cooper, Aaron Hernandez and David Nelson during a 30-minute workout, spoke with several NFL executives and even found time to play catch with a kid confined to a wheelchair.

Has the power to heal the kid but instead just plays catch with him. :shake:

Well at least he didn't try and circumcise the poor little fucker.
 
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Apparently Tebow has been selected to go to New York for the draft.
The justification is that he will be good for ratings. Basically, the NFL is making him their sacrificial lamb (how appropriate) as everyone tunes in to watch him sit all alone in the green room all night. :lol:
 
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In 2-3 years, if this kid comes out and gets his team into the playoffs alot of people around these parts are going to be eating alot of crow.

He's clearly fighting an uphill battle - but he doesn't have to look far for extra motivation.
 
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BigWoof31;1676109; said:
In 2-3 years, if this kid comes out and gets his team into the playoffs alot of people around these parts are going to be eating alot of crow.

I don't think you understand how the internet works.

Also, I like how low you set the bar, do we really have to eat crow if he gets his team into the playoffs? not even a playoff victory? not even a super bowl appearance? Hell, Peyton gets shit because he has only won one super bowl. Is St. Tebow going to be held to that standard of great quarterbacking? or are we really going to eat crow for Tebow making it to a playoff game?

Sorry for all the questions, last final is tonight, feeling a little on edge.
 
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Buckeye86;1676111; said:
I don't think you understand how the internet works.

Also, I like how low you set the bar, do we really have to eat crow if he gets his team into the playoffs? not even a playoff victory? not even a super bowl appearance? Hell, Peyton gets [censored] because he has only won one super bowl. Is St. Tebow going to be held to that standard of great quarterbacking? or are we really going to eat crow for Tebow making it to a playoff game?

Sorry for all the questions, last final is tonight, feeling a little on edge.


A quick summary of the last 8-10 pages in this thread suggests that opinions on Tebow are divided into the following three areas:

1. He is borderline retarded, has no ability to think and was placed in a system where he could just react and not be strategic about a gameplan. Furthermore - based on his spiritual upbringing and social services major - its likely he can't read, much less read a playbook.

2. He has been drastically undercoached, lacks basic quarterback fundamentals and is only useful in situations where he is required to fall forward to pick up yardage.

3. IF he gets drafted and IF he plays in the NFL, it'll be in a non-QB role and he should dedicate himself to using his excellent physical gifts and apply them to learn a new position.


Based on these summations - I said the bar is set exceptionally low by others opinions and not mine and that a playoff appearence and a winning record would almost certainly shut his critics up. And rightly so.
 
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BigWoof31;1676133; said:
Based on these summations - I said the bar is set exceptionally low and that a playoff appearence and a winning record would almost certainly shut his critics up. And rightly so.

Once again, I don't think you understand how the internet works. :wink2:

Then again, neither do I since I assumed you were responding to my post alone rather than the summation of the last few pages.

You will admit that there is no way in hell his is going to get drafted in the top 10 or even 20 like the rest of the players invited to New York so he will be sitting all alone for at least as long as Quinn a few years ago.

So if he isn't going to get drafted in the top 10 like everyone else invited (part of the reason why people hate him is because of shit like this), then why is he being invited? so that people can watch him sit all alone for an extended period of time and the announcers can talk non-fucking stop about when he will get drafted.

It will be a spectacle to say the least and purely a ploy by the NFL to trump up drama. If I were Tebow I wouldn't even go, but he most certainly will.

You can at least see why this type of shit is exactly why people don't like Tebow, right?
 
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Buckeye86;1676143; said:
You will admit that there is no way in hell his is going to get drafted in the top 10 or even 20 like the rest of the players invited to New York so he will be sitting all alone for at least as long as Quinn a few years ago.

Absolutely correct. We are in complete agreement here.

Buckeye86;1676143; said:
So if he isn't going to get drafted in the top 10 like everyone else invited (part of the reason why people hate him is because of [censored] like this), then why is he being invited? so that people can watch him sit all alone for an extended period of time and the announcers can talk non-[censored]ing stop about when he will get drafted.

No idea whatsoever. I would say that up to this point his PR and management team has done a great job with Tim - but this seems like a mistake.

I might be grasping at straws with this suggestion - but remember the NFL Draft is over 4 days this year. Round 1 is Thursday, 2 on Friday and three over the weekend. Tebow committed to NYC, but hasn't confirmed a day yet. Maybe he doesn't show up till the weekend - who knows?

Buckeye86;1676143; said:
You can at least see why this type of [censored] is exactly why people don't like Tebow, right?

Sure and it's alot worse in my neck of the woods than in Ohio. But I stand by my point that alot of his critics will be very much surprised if he leads a team into the playoffs as an NFL starting QB.
 
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This probably falls within the category of "The Universe is Profoundly Unfair", but I suspect that TT is going to have a much more productive NFL career than TS.

[I can't bear to actually write out the names lest I burst into flames and have the Buckeye ripped from my chest.]
 
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BigWoof31;1676133; said:
A quick summary of the last 8-10 pages in this thread suggests that opinions on Tebow are divided into the following three areas:

1. He is borderline retarded, has no ability to think and was placed in a system where he could just react and not be strategic about a gameplan. Furthermore - based on his spiritual upbringing and social services major - its likely he can't read, much less read a playbook.

2. He has been drastically undercoached, lacks basic quarterback fundamentals and is only useful in situations where he is required to fall forward to pick up yardage.

3. IF he gets drafted and IF he plays in the NFL, it'll be in a non-QB role and he should dedicate himself to using his excellent physical gifts and apply them to learn a new position.

Seriously? You don't think you're misstating the last 8-10 pages at all? It seems that your post could be, at best, characterized as a gross overstatement.
 
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buckeyesin07;1676165; said:
Seriously? You don't think you're misstating the last 8-10 pages at all? It seems that your post could be, at best, characterized as a gross overstatement.


No, not at all. In fact I think between you, JaxBuck, and ORD - an Encyclopedia Britanica of Tebow hate could be written in a week.

Oh excuse me! I'm getting a little bit off message,

Of course what I meant to say was: "DUR!!!1 I'm and SEC football fan! I love Jesus and my truck and that's it! SEC SEC SEC!"
 
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BigWoof31;1676175; said:
No, not at all. In fact I think between you, JaxBuck, and ORD - an Encyclopedia Britanica of Tebow hate could be written in a week.

Oh excuse me! I'm getting a little bit off message,

Of course what I meant to say was: "DUR!!!1 I'm and SEC football fan! I love Jesus and my truck and that's it! SEC SEC SEC!"

Man, I wish they still had sigs turned on! :biggrin:
 
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For my part, I think Tebow's a decent guy, as a guy. I mean... anything I've ever heard him say, and anything I've ever seen him do, all appear to be "the right thing" That said, I do not like the media coverage of TT at all. That's not Tebow's fault, I'm just saying I'm sick of TT coverage... and I think the idea of him going to NYC for the draft is ridiculous. But, fortunately, I don't care that much, so it's more of a nonissue to me. Likewise, based on TT's football skills, as I have observed them, I do not think he will become a reliable NFL QB.

I do think the guy can learn. I do think the guy is coachable. I do think he has the drive to succeed in the NFL. I just don't think he's going to be able to make the changes necessary. They say his throws were coming out faster (less wind-up) and that's great.. maybe they are... but.. much like 40 times, one day does not impress me. Muscle memory impresses me. When we're in a spot where we can't slow down and think it through, we do what we've always done. It's pretty "easy" to go to a pro day, go thru your mental checklist and throw some balls around the yard. It's quite another matter to not revert back to the way you've always thrown when you've got a guy ready to take your friggin head off.

In my opinion, that'll be the difference for Tebow. If he ends up in a system where he can sit and learn for 3 or 4 years without being "forced in to action" I think he could re-learn how to throw, and repeat that consistently enough to be a decent QB.
 
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No, not at all. In fact I think between you, JaxBuck, and ORD - an Encyclopedia Britanica of Tebow hate could be written in a week.
Page 105 - zero posts by any of them.
Page 106 - jax has 0 posts. mania has two posts, neither of which are unreasonable. Ord has one post that is sarcastic and obviously just poking a bit of fun.
Page 107 - all three have 0 posts until you go off the deep end with gross mischaracterization.
2. He has been drastically undercoached, lacks basic quarterback fundamentals
So you're arguing he has basic quarterback fundamentals? In which area?
 
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