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Tim Tebow (Blessed)

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jwinslow;1676187; said:
So you're arguing he has basic quarterback fundamentals? In which area?
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Well, first - he knows where the QB lines up. that's about as basic as it gets, no?
Second, he can take a snap (Well.. as long as it's a shotgun snap)
Third, it seems pretty clear he knows which foot to throw off
Fourth, it looks to me like he can hand the ball off

I suppose I could go on (and yes, I'm joking)
 
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If you feel the discourse is unreasonable, you might try:

a) Addressing those posters specifically rather than lumping everyone together lazily

b) Not stringing together more extreme hyperbole than all three of the offenders combined.

It's rather counter-productive to your arguments, and ruins the complex conversation the board is trying to have, with a variety of opinions.
BigWoof31;1676109; said:
In 2-3 years, if this kid comes out and gets his team into the playoffs alot of people around these parts are going to be eating alot of crow.

He's clearly fighting an uphill battle - but he doesn't have to look far for extra motivation.
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Somehow I think he has to outpace Rex Grossman before anyone is going to be eating any crow.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;1676192; said:
Well, first - he knows where the QB lines up. that's about as basic as it gets, no?
Second, he can take a snap (Well.. as long as it's a shotgun snap)
Third, it seems pretty clear he knows which foot to throw off
Fourth, it looks to me like he can hand the ball off

I suppose I could go on (and yes, I'm joking)
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And he can jump really high! Jump pass!
 
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I think Tim's a great college player, a hard worker, a bruising athlete & a charismatic leader. The problem is many of those attributes lose their advantage (or most of it) when you reach the next level.

Most players work incredibly hard and are more mature and dedicated about their preparation. They also have better trainers & "doctors" to help sculpt their physiques. They don't have to pretend to be students any longer, they can dedicate their lives to their sport.

Tebow's athleticism was never about speed (which was fairly average in college and moreso in the pros), it was about remarkable strength & toughness. He'll lose a lot of that advantage at the next level, where many LBs will possess the same freakish size & strength as Tim.

His leadership & intangibles will certainly be an asset in his NFL career.


Tebow struggles with his accuracy, velocity, footwork, throwing motion, windup & progressing through his reads. The passing lanes and windows are a lot smaller at the next level and he played 4 years in a system that put tremendous strain on a defense and made his job as a passer much simpler.


Can he improve? Sure, but how much? The improvement yesterday was not substantial, and before he tried to overhaul his fundamentals he still struggled with a lot of these things.


In the NFL, he cannot get away with throwing off of his back foot, tipping off the DB or LB with a long windup and average velocity or putting the ball to high or low.



For a team with no quarterback, I can see the gamble in the 2nd round, especially if it sells some tickets in the meantime even if he doesn't pan out. I question the logic in drafting him as a patriot (before the 3rd-4th round) and removing an NFL legend from the field to play a raw rookie (unless Tom is nearing retirement).


Pat White was a much more dynamic runner with comparable passing ability (and more upside as an NFL passer, albeit a project). He has looked like just another backup QB and his explosive speed displayed in college is almost non-existent. Tebow will bring a more physical attack to a wildcat formation, but White's mediocre impact certainly adds skepticism to Tim's chances in that formation.
 
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BigWoof31;1676175; said:
Of course what I meant to say was: "DUR!!!1 I'm and SEC football fan! I love Jesus and my truck and that's it! SEC SEC SEC!"
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C'mon, Woof, you don't really think we view you in that limited scope, do you?

We realize that y'all can also talk at length about NASCAR, country music, and complaints about The War of Northern Aggression.
 
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jwinslow;1676187; said:
Page 105 - zero posts by any of them.
Page 106 - jax has 0 posts. mania has two posts, neither of which are unreasonable. Ord has one post that is sarcastic and obviously just poking a bit of fun.
Page 107 - all three have 0 posts until you go off the deep end with gross mischaracterization.
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In fairness, Woof did say a week, and those 3 pages only go back to yesterday. A full week would include some harsh posts after the Wonderlic score was released.

WTF, did I just switch allegiances? Spending too much time even talking about Tebow has changed me.
 
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What, you don't enjoy these comments?
Is this purely a unbiased assesment, or a little hatred for the fact that he abused a fellow Big Ten team in Ohio State while also bypassing Michigan for that slot in the title game?
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:lol: Yes, I'm sure he's torn up over that considering his last game in college.
Henne is just scared he could lose his "Starting job" to Tebow...The Dolphins just might take him in the draft.. Florida golden boy going to the Dolphins...Makes sense..Do not count Pennington out...The journey man is one of the best in the game and just keeps doing it quietlyand effeicently. Henne shouldnt be opening his mouth about other players especially those that could be his team mate next season..Just makes him sound like a chump...who is he to say anything..
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:lol:
 
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jwinslow;1676193; said:
If you feel the discourse is unreasonable, you might try:

a) Addressing those posters specifically rather than lumping everyone together lazily

b) Not stringing together more extreme hyperbole than all three of the offenders combined.

It's rather counter-productive to your arguments, and ruins the complex conversation the board is trying to have, with a variety of opinions.Somehow I think he has to outpace Rex Grossman before anyone is going to be eating any crow.
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I don't think you understand how the internet works :p
 
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BB73;1676214; said:
In fairness, Woof did say a week, and those 3 pages only go back to yesterday. A full week would include some harsh posts after the Wonderlic score was released.

WTF, did I just switch allegiances? Spending too much time even talking about Tebow has changed me.
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Well, Tebow's been lying to us all. :sad: He just bought his new car.

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