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Tiger Woods (Offical Thread)

My father is over 80 and played golf with a stress fracture in his lower leg, so I'm not overly impressed.

I believe Tiger was in pain at times when he played. But the difference with a golfer, compared to athletes in contact sports, is that a golfer can control his own movement.

A football, basketball, or hockey player can't decide from which angle and at what speed the stress of impact is coming from.

If the ACL was damaged last summer, I don't undestand why he didn't have it surgically repaired right after the PGA.
my points. but ill say that youd be surprised how many pro athletes play mega hurt. it happens a helluva a lot more than you think.

like i said im not pullinig a mike milbury. hes good and hes tough no doubt.
 
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BB73;1187622; said:
My father is over 80 and played golf with a stress fracture in his lower leg, so I'm not overly impressed.

I'm not being flippant or critical of your father. God bless him that he's 80 and able to tee it up.

But does your father hit it over 300 off the tee, does he generate the clubhead speed and torque that Tiger does?
 
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Boy is this guy going to eat some crow......from June 2005

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Nicklaus' record seems safe from Tiger




Nine years into his professional career and six months from his 30th birthday, Tiger Woods is exactly halfway to the only record that really matters to him: Jack Nicklaus' total of 18 major championship victories.
Will he get there?
A few years ago, nobody would have bet against him. From the 1999 PGA to the 2002 U.S. Open, Woods won seven of 11 majors and produced some of the best golf ever played.
You can pick any golfer in history - Ben Hogan, Sam Snead, Byron Nelson, Bobby Jones - and on his best day he wouldn't have touched Woods at Pebble Beach in 2000. That 15-stroke romp at the U.S. Open sent the world's best players running to their sports psychologists and swing coaches. They knew they couldn't beat Woods, he knew they couldn't beat him, and they knew he knew they couldn't beat him.

But the landscape of golf has changed considerably since then. Woods has won just one of the last 12 majors played (the Masters in April) and his runner-up finish to Michael Campbell in the U.S. Open on Sunday underscored the fact that winning 10 more won't be easy.
Why? The other players no longer go weak-kneed when they see his name on the leader board; his game will never again be what it was in 2000; and, believe it or not, he's starting to run out of time.
 
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COTiger;1187633; said:
I'm not being flippant or critical of your father. God bless him that he's 80 and able to tee it up.

But does your father hit it over 300 off the tee, does he generate the clubhead speed and torque that Tiger does?


Not to mention Tiger was playing one of the toughest courses in the world against all of the best players.
 
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BuckeyeNation27;1187560; said:
He seems like a guy who will blame any shortcoming (and there aren't that many) on anything but himself. Camera shutters, somebody coughing, fingernails growing.

every good competitive golfer i've played against does this. even jack nicklaus will say to this day that he never missed a putt. he will tell you that they didn't go in because of grain, spikes, ball marks etc. its not the most becoming trait, but is neccessary to preserve your ego/confidence in your abilities.
 
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That's a bit over the top though and I think you realize that.

Isolated sounds jack up a shot b/c it's unexpected. If they decide to allow noise and cameras going during shots, fine. At least then the players could anticpate it and not be distracted. But you can't expect players to just play through unexpected noises mid-swing. And if a hard stance isn't taken, it'd happen 30x more frequently than it currently does.
and yet, I never hear stories about other people bitching at somebody taking a picture.....or have their caddies destroy somebody's camera. that might be because of my other gripe with him........that he's shoved down our throats. who knows. either way, I think he's an asshole.
COTiger said:
Tee shots with a driver where Tiger loads up and puts the most stress on the left leg is where it effected him most. Flip wedges around the green where you aren't putting a lot of load on the left leg is where the effect would have been least noticeable.
how about a blast out of the sand?
 
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BuckeyeNation27;1187674; said:
and yet, I never hear stories about other people bitching at somebody taking a picture.....or have their caddies destroy somebody's camera. that might be because of my other gripe with him........that he's shoved down our throats. who knows. either way, I think he's an asshole.
how about a blast out of the sand?

Adam Scott's caddy got into a fight with hecklers during the US Open.

Plenty of players back of shots and ask for people in the gallery to be removed or cameras taken away. Why is that tTger gets singled out??? Probably b/c the camera is on him about 60% of the tournament and his crowds are triple the size of the average player and the cameramen are continuously fighting for the best angle to get a shot.

The swarm of cameras around him is like the papparazzi chasing a celebrity around. He had to back off about every other stoke during the Sunday round. It's not because he's being nit-picky, it's because dumb fans don't realize how loud their cameras are and the professionals want the perfect shot to get paid.

He probabaly does a better job with it then most of us even realize.
 
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NBC showed a chart listing Jack's major tour victories and his age compared to Tigers with his age. They did not make this up. It is based on goals Tiger has set for himself and has talked about since before he turned pro. He wants to win more majors than Jack.

There is nothing in the injuries I am hearing about that can not be recovered from. At the same time, any serious lower body injury to a golfer can bring an end to their career - either directly or indirectly through adjustments that cause problems elsewhere (hip, back). This would seem particularly true of a golfer who plays hurt and tempts fate.

On the other hand, Ben Hogan experienced life threatening injuries in an auto accident that almost certainly ended his career in 1949, He played in pain for the rest of his life - winning 6 of his 9 majors AFTER the accident.

I look for Tiger to keep going for a long time. Worst case he may change his game the way HOF pitchers do when they lose their fast balls. But he ain't going anywhere anytime soon.
 
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Agreed, Oh8ch.

Even if he eventually needs a knee replacement, he could still play to the same standard.
He may someday have to gear down his swing so he doesn't snap his knee straight at impact - that would certainly help his knee, but he won't do that unless it means otherwise quitting altogether.

I fully expect Tiger to be back for next year's Masters and be good to go.
 
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NightmaresDad;1187858; said:
I fully expect Tiger to be back for next year's Masters and be good to go.

As do I. I had to drop my son off at his office this AM, and as I told him driving in, even if Tiger only recovers to 95% of his pre surgery game, that's still good enough to dominate.
 
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CCI;1188184; said:
He beats 185 golfers at the US Open with one leg.:)
Must be a hell of a leg if it lasted that long , The one I used only lasted for 27 golfers before it was shreded. :biggrin:

Any activity that has a champion with one good leg can't be a real sport.
 
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