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Tiger Woods (Offical Thread)

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fourteenandoh;1662163; said:
seriously? some of those dramatic pauses and sighs were so planned. it was a very, very practiced speech. it wouldn't surprise me if they even focus group tested it.
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Exactly. He had parts of it memorized. There's about $100 million per year in endorsements at stake - that speech was crafted and dissected by a team of PR people for weeks.
 
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When you have so many people dissecting it...I can't blame them for rehearsing it.

I first listened to it on radio, and didn't like it. When I came home and actually saw it off of my DVR, it came away much more believable.
 
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BB73;1662174; said:
Exactly. He had parts of it memorized. There's about $100 million per year in endorsements at stake - that speech was crafted and dissected by a team of PR people for weeks.
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I'm sure he practiced it multiple times, but that speech was hardly professional. No flow. Awkward sentence endings. And it had a lot of 12-step themes to it.

That said, he didn't say the one thing I selfishly care to hear, "I'm back." He says he realizes that he's not entitled, but the rest of us have to work even if we are having problems in our personal lives. I want to see the guy work.
 
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Romanowski;1662183; said:
he seemed to only get really emotional when he talked about not using PE drugs, because, as we all know, that's what's truly most important...
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That, and when he was telling the paparazzi to leave his kids alone.
 
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Tiger Woods still doesn't seem to realize that the world as he knew it is over. He may return in time to remain world #1. He may retain a large fanbase. But the world will no longer hold its breath every time he speaks.

Tiger is no longer holy and no longer above criticism. Rival players will no longer ignore his cursing, club throwing, disrespect for the game. As his comments today show, he knows it.

So what does tomorrow look like? Probably his faithful in the gallery are fewer and his attempts to excite them so that their movement and voices affect the concentration of his opponents will be met with formal complaints from his opponents.

Now, if he wishes to prove that he is a better golfer than Jack Nicklaus was, he will have to prove it "fairly and squarely."

It will not be lost on Tiger or his handlers that he could not control this press conference as he wished. The refusal of golf writers to cover the press conference and to set conditions for covering Woods, will no doubt be a shock, even if it doens't seem like such a big thing to normal folks.

What he takes away from this is shown by his going back into therapy, where it seems that he thinks he can avoid the questions that everyone else knows he has only delayed. One wonders how many sponsors he has in six months, given how badly this is being managed.

I feel very sorry for his wife and kids. This is not going to go away ever. I don't think the press has any business asking the questions they want to ask but this is the world we live in and it is time that Woods got some good advice and took a different tack with the media.

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BuckeyeTillIDie;1662193; said:
It's still pretty sad that he has to address the crazed media about personal issues. The only thing he should of had to have talked about was golfing.
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I agree, but it's part of the bargain of celebrity. If he walked out on a course right now, I think he'd find people sneezing in his backswing and lots of negative comments. Hard to win in that context.
 
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Steve19;1662200; said:
I agree, but it's part of the bargain of celebrity. If he walked out on a course right now, I think he'd find people sneezing in his backswing and lots of negative comments. Hard to win in that context.
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This will be a huge issue for him. When he returns, the cameras, sneezes, and blatant "F YOU!!" stuff in his back swing are going to drive him farking nuts.
 
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Steve19;1662196; said:
Tiger Woods still doesn't seem to realize that the world as he knew it is over. He may return in time to remain world #1. He may retain a large fanbase. But the world will no longer hold its breath every time he speaks.

Tiger is no longer holy and no longer above criticism. Rival players will no longer ignore his cursing, club throwing, disrespect for the game. As his comments today show, he knows it.

So what does tomorrow look like? Probably his faithful in the gallery are fewer and his attempts to excite them so that their movement and voices affect the concentration of his opponents will be met with formal complaints from his opponents.

Now, if he wishes to prove that he is a better golfer than Jack Nicklaus was, he will have to prove it "fairly and squarely."

It will not be lost on Tiger or his handlers that he could not control this press conference as he wished. The refusal of golf writers to cover the press conference and to set conditions for covering Woods, will no doubt be a shock, even if it doesn't seem like such a big thing to normal folks.

What he takes away from this is shown by his going back into therapy, where it seems that he thinks he can avoid the questions that everyone else knows he has only delayed. One wonders how many sponsors he has in six months, given how badly this is being managed.

I feel very sorry for his wife and kids. This is not going to go away ever. I don't think the press has any business asking the questions they want to ask but this is the world we live in and it is time that Woods got some good advice and took a different tack with the media.

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And it wasn't fairly and squarely before?

Surely, it will be different at first. But if Tiger were to win another 2 majors in a season again, it would be over, done with. As soon as the announcers on the television stop making reference to it, it will drop from our collective consciousness.

Yes, it is the nature of America that the press asks questions that are unfair. But it is also the nature of Americans to forget completely about private things in light of amazing sports feats.

MJ, Ray Lewis, Kobe, A-Rod, and next up Tiger. Like it or lump it, things will be (on the surface) back to the way they were before. There will be a dark cloud hanging behind him, sure, but at the bottom of it all people just want to root for the best.
 
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Merih;1662203; said:
And it wasn't fairly and squarely before?

Surely, it will be different at first. But if Tiger were to win another 2 majors in a season again, it would be over, done with. As soon as the announcers on the television stop making reference to it, it will drop from our collective consciousness.

Yes, it is the nature of America that the press asks questions that are unfair. But it is also the nature of Americans to forget completely about private things in light of amazing sports feats.

MJ, Ray Lewis, Kobe, A-Rod, and next up Tiger. Like it or lump it, things will be (on the surface) back to the way they were before. There will be a dark cloud hanging behind him, sure, but at the bottom of it all people just want to root for the best.
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Washington (CNN) - Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty jokingly told conservative activists Friday that they can learn a few things from Tiger Woods' wife.


"At this very hour or very shortly this morning a big event is happening in the United States of America," Pawlenty said in a speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference. "Tiger Woods is holding his press conference at 11 o'clock eastern."

"Now, I think we can learn a lot about that situation," he said. "Not from Tiger but from his wife. She said, 'I've had enough.' She said, 'No more.' I think we should take a page out of her playbook and take a nine-iron and smash the window out of big government in this country. We've had enough." (link)
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When sports enters politics as metaphor, it's fair to say that the world has turned against Tiger Woods. That's my opinion, you may see it differently, and who knows? You may be right.

My opinion of Tiger is evident in earlier posts in this thread.

To Tiger fans, it seems like its fair, but to fans of opponents who watch him work a crowd to ensure that his opponents have all kinds of distractions, glare and even hard charge people who make the slightest noise in the crowd when he's addressing the ball--no, it hasn't been fair and square.

He has played golf in a manner intended to manipulate the course and galleries to his advantage. This is what so many respected golfers have spoken about in recent weeks...his disrespect for the game. In the past, opposing golfers felt that if they spoke up, his army would just make it worse. Clearly, that fear is gone. Even his closest friends on the Tour, like Els, have spoken out about his behavior now.

Again, maybe those who think this will all blow over are right. I just don't think so.
 
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