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vrbryant

vrbryant

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SOTOGRANDE, Spain -- Jean Van de Velde, who blew the British Open six years ago on the final hole, will attempt to enter next year's women's British Open.

"I'll even wear a kilt and shave my legs," he said Thursday after shooting a 7-over 78 in the first round of the Volvo Masters.

The 39-year-old Frenchman is upset with a recent policy set by the Royal and Ancient Golf Club to allow women to qualify for next year's British Open.

"My whole point is where do we draw the line?" Van de Velde asked, and called the rule change a farce.

"If we accept that women can enter our tournaments, then it applies that men can play with women," he said.

The Frenchman said he would get an application and attempt to qualify.
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This isn't about gender issues.

Like every other Frenchman, he is just hoping to get into a contest where he knows everyone else has blown it as well.

:slappy: vrbryant drumroll here, greenies over there -->
 
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Apologies in advance to all the BP ladies.

If women as a whole had any sense of pride or self worth, they'd let him do it. They think their constant battle to bring down predominantly male institutions empowers them, when in reality it just belittles them as independent human beings. Want to be equals? Fine, act like it.
 
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vrbryant said:
Apologies in advance to all the BP ladies.

If women as a whole had any sense of pride or self worth, they'd let him do it. They think their constant battle to bring down predominantly male institutions empowers them, when in reality it just belittles them as independent human beings. Want to be equals? Fine, act like it.
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Amen, bro...
 
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vrbryant said:
Apologies in advance to all the BP ladies.

If women as a whole had any sense of pride or self worth, they'd let him do it. They think their constant battle to bring down predominantly male institutions empowers them, when in reality it just belittles them as independent human beings. Want to be equals? Fine, act like it.
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keeping on topic here, female play in pga tournaments has little to do with bringing down predominantly male institutions. the pga makes no provisions for men only in their tournaments. the pga permits and wants the best players, regardless of sex. on the other hand, the lpga is limited to women.

female professional golfers know that they're inferior to male professional golfers. they fully accept that. while a particular female professional may be better than some male professional players, there is no debate as who is better collectively. my only beef with allowing females to play is when they don't qualify and take a male player's spot. however, each time a female player has not qualified but played in a men's tournament she has been given a sponsor's exemption. sponsors may dole out the exemption as they see fit. quite often the exemptions go to local professionals who would likely be outplayed by many of the top players on the lpga circuit. trust me, just because a guy is a pga pro does not mean he's good. several pga pros can barely break 80 on any given course. it's not very difficult to become a pga pro (break a certain score one time and then go through a series of levels, which are largely book related).

all that being said, i hope that jean van de velde plays in the tournament and kicks those ladies' butts. however, i think he revels in outrageous defeat as much as he would in victory.
 
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jc_ultimate said:
NO WAY!!! If he actually gets to play you have to root for a huge lead, followed by an even bigger collapse on the final round. That would be priceless entertainment. :biggrin:
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6 years ago was probably the most laughing I've ever done watching someone (other than myself) golf. It would be hilarious to see him (or any guy) do the same thing in a women's tournament.
 
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OSU_Buckguy said:
keeping on topic here, female play in pga tournaments has little to do with bringing down predominantly male institutions. the pga makes no provisions for men only in their tournaments. the pga permits and wants the best players, regardless of sex. on the other hand, the lpga is limited to women.

female professional golfers know that they're inferior to male professional golfers. they fully accept that. while a particular female professional may be better than some male professional players, there is no debate as who is better collectively. my only beef with allowing females to play is when they don't qualify and take a male player's spot. however, each time a female player has not qualified but played in a men's tournament she has been given a sponsor's exemption. sponsors may dole out the exemption as they see fit. quite often the exemptions go to local professionals who would likely be outplayed by many of the top players on the lpga circuit. trust me, just because a guy is a pga pro does not mean he's good. several pga pros can barely break 80 on any given course. it's not very difficult to become a pga pro (break a certain score one time and then go through a series of levels, which are largely book related).

all that being said, i hope that jean van de velde plays in the tournament and kicks those ladies' butts. however, i think he revels in outrageous defeat as much as he would in victory.
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Valid points, all - my main beef is the duality of the issue. It's considered 'courageous' when women try to infiltrate man-dom (see: The Citadel girl, Manon Rheaume, Michelle Wie, etc.), yet the opposite is seen as ridiculous. Which it is, sort of. But honestly, the efforts those women make - to me - are a slap in the face of real feminism. They're freely admitting that they find their establishments and institutions unsatisfactory. It's sad.
 
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