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:lol: This is good stuff.

First of all if the women want to come and try out for the PGA that's fine with me, just leave all the hype at home because you'll be lucky to make the cut. If they were smart they would try the Nationwide tour, Nike Tour, Etc... This way they can get some practice in playing against a longer course and male competitors.

Now on the part of Frenchie I hope he kicks thier asses... he will be going in there without all the hype and media commotion that women bring when they come to play with the big boys and will then open the door for other amateur male golfers to try thier hand at pro golf.
 
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Wait, you mean that this dude is named Jean, and he's not a chick already?

Whoa... I'm confused...


Anyway.... why would any British Chick be scared of being beaten at golf by a French "guy?"
 
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OSU_Buckguy said:
keeping on topic here, female play in pga tournaments has little to do with bringing down predominantly male institutions. the pga makes no provisions for men only in their tournaments. the pga permits and wants the best players, regardless of sex. on the other hand, the lpga is limited to women.

female professional golfers know that they're inferior to male professional golfers. they fully accept that. while a particular female professional may be better than some male professional players, there is no debate as who is better collectively. my only beef with allowing females to play is when they don't qualify and take a male player's spot. however, each time a female player has not qualified but played in a men's tournament she has been given a sponsor's exemption. sponsors may dole out the exemption as they see fit. quite often the exemptions go to local professionals who would likely be outplayed by many of the top players on the lpga circuit. trust me, just because a guy is a pga pro does not mean he's good. several pga pros can barely break 80 on any given course. it's not very difficult to become a pga pro (break a certain score one time and then go through a series of levels, which are largely book related).

all that being said, i hope that jean van de velde plays in the tournament and kicks those ladies' butts. however, i think he revels in outrageous defeat as much as he would in victory.
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I agree other than you comment on being a PGA professional. The exemptions are given due to accomplishments/victories. While you are correct in saying not all professionals are great players, most of a class A professional's duties are running tournaments, operations, and teaching. Tour Professionals obviously spend their time touring. As far as becoming a PGA professional the PGA is moving toward promoting Professional Golf Management Division 1 colleges for their certification. This includes a normal bachelor's degree, PGA course material (approx 3-4yrs worth), 16 months of full-time internships, and the Players Ability Test you spoke of. While the PAT is not terribly difficult, 36 holes with a target score is a pretty grueling day and a very long one. You would be amazed of the pass ratio at these events. So I would have to disagree with your comment about the ease of becoming a golf professional, since I have been there done that. I do agree that playing skills are widely varied due to talent, age, job responsibilities, etc.
 
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sure, it's fun bashing women and thinking that they suck in golf. remember, though, annika sorenstam beat 1/7 of the field in the 2003 colonial. when you consider that she played under more pressure than the final group at the masters, that's quite a debut. i'm sure that most pga debuts fair hardly any better and under far less scrutiny.

yes, she's just one female player. nearly all of the other lpga players would finish so far over the cut that they'd think of giving up golf altogether.
 
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keeponrisin said:
The exemptions are given due to accomplishments/victories.

As far as becoming a PGA professional the PGA is moving toward promoting Professional Golf Management Division 1 colleges for their certification. This includes a normal bachelor's degree, PGA course material (approx 3-4yrs worth), 16 months of full-time internships, and the Players Ability Test you spoke of.

You would be amazed of the pass ratio at these events. So I would have to disagree with your comment about the ease of becoming a golf professional, since I have been there done that. I do agree that playing skills are widely varied due to talent, age, job responsibilities, etc.
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actually, exemption determinations are solely the prerogative of the sponsor(s), with a few pga/usga limitations. many tournaments see those spots filled by local pros. i've worked the memorial tournament, honda classic, us open at shinnecock, and a few other small tournaments. trust me. many of those players who receive sponsors' exemptions are players you'll never, ever hear about.

while the pga is moving to make certification more stringent and university-based, it has been the case for a very long time that joe schmoe can become a pro if he can put together a couple decent rounds of golf. as you seem to know, there is much more involved, and this extra stuff is what separates the wheat from the chaff. i've met several assistant pros and head pros who could barely break 80 -- let alone 85. muirfield has a couple who, when i lived in columbus, were absolutely horrible. now, they would likely not receive a sponsor's exemption, but many decent but hardly proficient pros do receive sponsors' exemptions. you will see several very good pros receive sponsors' exemptions, for example, gore, wittenberg, and wie, but there are many, many others who couldn't hold a candle.

i have "been there, done that," too. i've met way too many pga pros who were decent single-digit handicappers but hardly any better.
 
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Thump said:
You sure you're really a dude with all of this nonsense you are spewing?
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nonsense? if jean van de velde enters the women's tournament, you better believe that much of the potshots he'll receive will be from men and not women. if he does no better than win the tourney, he will be the butt of sportscenter and sports illustrated jokes for generations and generations to come.
 
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OSU_Buckguy said:
nonsense? if jean van de velde enters the women's tournament, you better believe that much of the potshots he'll receive will be from men and not women. if he does no better than win the tourney, he will be the butt of sportscenter and sports illustrated for generations and generations to come.
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Agreed.

vrbryant said:
...but the opposite is seen as ridiculous. Which it is...
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Because why would we ever want/need to cross over? Answer? We wouldn't. Doing so concedes inferiority. My only point.
 
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Thump said:
Good.

That would leave more time for sucking cock........
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Does this mean that after you're done watching them miss the cut on TV, you resume your normal activities?

Or maybe you meant that the women would be doing that. It was a little unclear for me. :biggrin:
 
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