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I'm well aware that the good eggs aren't noteworthy.

I'm also aware of how widespread bigotry is across many political systems, races, continents, demographics, etc. This notion that it is one party is laughable.
http://time.com/79590/donald-sterling-kareem-abdul-jabbar-racism/

"Let’s use this tawdry incident to remind ourselves of the old saying: “Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom.” Instead of being content to punish Sterling and go back to sleep, we need to be inspired to vigilantly seek out, expose, and eliminate racism at its first signs."
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I guess I'm piling on at this point, but oh well. So, I decided to look at Taos' other citations that I guess "prove" his assertions. Turns out that in addition to using left-wing satirical entertainment he also cited a personal blog. His more "credible" sources is an opinion piece in the Atlantic Monthly and a wikipedia entry. I followed the wikipedia entry to its source, which was an academic article from 1995 summarizing the literature on employment discrimination from the early 1990s. That's right, a good picture of what the US was like 20-25 years ago.

:huh:
 
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I guess I'm piling on at this point, but oh well. So, I decided to look at Taos' other citations that I guess "prove" his assertions. Turns out that in addition to using left-wing satirical entertainment he also cited a personal blog. His more "credible" sources is an opinion piece in the Atlantic Monthly and a wikipedia entry. I followed the wikipedia entry to its source, which was an academic article from 1995 summarizing the literature on employment discrimination from the early 1990s. That's right, a good picture of what the US was like 20-25 years ago.

:huh:
The point you and you're Poli Forum crew are not grasping is little has changed since the Civil Rights Movement. This is the "problem" with many conservatives. There is no "going forward". It's just something that we, as a society, will have to keep grinding at.
Because if we don't we will see more of this erosion of America. A society slowly crumbling from hatred and fear of any change. A fall into being a second class, crumbling country much like the UK. I don't want that for my country. And I believe most Americans don't want that for their children.
 
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The point you and you're Poli Forum crew
It's beyond time for you to back up your wide sweeping attacks with something. Define me, Taos. Stop with the lazy, hateful broad stereotypes and kindly identify my racist viewpoints or at a minimum the racism enabling behavior.

Take a break from your hate-fueled, fearmongering to trivialize people groups that are beneath you, turning them into one abhorrent, unified caricature to avoid actual interaction. Stop subverting your bigotry commentary with bigoted comments and actually back up your allegations.

Unless you've decided that you cannot stop the broad-sweeping attacks and that you're incapable of "going forward" and participating in this subforum.
 
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The point you and you're Poli Forum crew are not grasping is little has changed since the Civil Rights Movement. This is the "problem" with many conservatives. There is no "going forward". It's just something that we, as a society, will have to keep grinding at.
Because if we don't we will see more of this erosion of America. A society slowly crumbling from hatred and fear of any change. A fall into being a second class, crumbling country much like the UK. I don't want that for my country. And I believe most Americans don't want that for their children.

I knew we couldn't possibly go another day without another hate-filled Taosman rant about how Conservatives are evil racists.

Way to not disappoint.
 
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The point you and you're Poli Forum crew are not grasping is little has changed since the Civil Rights Movement. This is the "problem" with many conservatives. There is no "going forward". It's just something that we, as a society, will have to keep grinding at.
Because if we don't we will see more of this erosion of America. A society slowly crumbling from hatred and fear of any change. A fall into being a second class, crumbling country much like the UK. I don't want that for my country. And I believe most Americans don't want that for their children.

should we really even being trying to move beyond racism?

the real issue is discrimination against individuals based on mere race, not some individuals making their free choice to be racist.

there is no goal, nor should there be, to cure racism.

the only people with that impossible goal are the race profiteers.


race is a common diversion the money changers use to keep us free range slaves fighting each other instead of hanging those who granted themselves a license to literally print money out of thin air.


taos, your dream of equality of results is a foolish dream as well. stick with equality of opportunity.



racism has almost nothing to do with the decline of our country.

we changed the nature of money from gold and silver to debt backed paper money and ever since our country has been in decline.

you want better equality, stop allowing the money changers to print unlimited money. hard currency punishes the inefficiencies of racism and will cure racism more so than any government mandated system which by definition must impede on someone else's liberty.

liberty for all > curing racism

hell liberty for any one > curing racism for all
 
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What freaking decade do you live in anyway?

Your attitude typifies the "problem". Marriage counselors say that as along as both parties are talking to each other there's hope for that marriage. But, when the two parties stop talking, stop having an actual dialogue(like what's happened to the BP Poli Forum), that marriage will probably fail. I worry that we are approaching the point where the angry rhetoric is such that there will be no dialogue any more. The "marriage" will fail. The America we know and love will fail and become just another failed ideal.
 
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Your attitude typifies the "problem". Marriage counselors say that as along as both parties are talking to each other there's hope for that marriage. But, when the two parties stop talking, stop having an actual dialogue(like what's happened to the BP Poli Forum), that marriage will probably fail. I worry that we are approaching the point where the angry rhetoric is such that there will be no dialogue any more. The "marriage" will fail. The America we know and love will fail and become just another failed ideal.
Do tell, Taos. How do those marriage counselors feel about attacks about how your kind always does this? Or quoting canned, prepared arguments instead of actually dealing with the spouse directly and honestly?


No dialogue? Kind of like how you refuse to back up your attacks on me with anything to support them. If you actually treat those you oppose - spouse or the conservatives you despise- as people with diverse opinions and merit, then you have to interact with them. If you reduce them to a sub human cesspool and squash all of them into that stereotype, then you can attack non stop and pretend your argument isn't self defeating.


Here in the real world, there has been a huge amount of progress with racism and sexism. Sure, there is still plenty of it to be found despite that progress.

The worst possible way to fight ignorant bigotry is returning the favor in the opposite direction.
 
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Notice I did not call you or any of my BP fellows an "evil racist". You used that term.
you declared half of the political spectrum as not only the root of racism in this country but the sole audible source of it.

Which is the latest in a very long line of broad sweeping attacks against the conservative party by you.
 
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It's beyond time for you to back up your wide sweeping attacks with something. Define me, Taos. Stop with the lazy, hateful broad stereotypes and kindly identify my racist viewpoints.

Take a break from your hate-fueled, fearmongering to trivialize people groups that are beneath you, turning them into one abhorrent, unified caricature to avoid actual interaction. Stop subverting your bigotry commentary with bigoted comments and actually back up your allegations.

Again, I did not call any of my BP fellows "racist" or "evil racists". You, particularly I don't see as any sort of racist. I think that's a very good part of who you are. You may be an ass at times, but I understand that. I even respect that about you. The bigger point here is to start a better dialogue about racism and this countries direction. I love this country and people with all my heart and want what's best for all.

Unless you've decided that you cannot stop the broad-sweeping attacks and that you're incapable of "going forward" and participating in this subforum.
 
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Again, I did not call any of my BP fellows "racist" or "evil racists". You, particularly I don't see as any sort of racist. I think that's a very good part of who you are. You may be an ass at times, but I understand that. I even respect that about you. The bigger point here is to start a better dialogue about racism and this countries direction. I love this country and people with all my heart and want what's best for all.
Then try learning about the diversity of the "conservatives" (especially when many of us rebuke most or all of what the party stands for today).

Try understanding that a systemic problem with humanity can be improved greatly and still be an issue. Inflammatory, hyperbolic statements strip you of any credibility, like declaring that this is all a conservative thing or that nothing has changed since the 60s.

Try having a dialogue instead of a fire and brimstone sermon about how wicked the other side of the aisle is and how all is lost if they do not change.
 
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