The Polls (AP, Coaches, & CFP, etc.)

[Nutriaitch]

i seriously think it was done intentionally to fill air time.

i mean the show was 4 freaking hours long.
i coulda had that bitch finished in less than 30min.

so, let put UGA between Oklahoma and tOSU to give us something to babble about for along stretch of time.

also, committee probably assumed there would be less backlash by putting UGA between y’all and OU.

and in a sense, they were right.

because no one (that i’ve seen) is debating the OU or tOSU angle right now.

they’re arguing tOSU should be ahead of UGA.
but that’s for a “meaningless” spot that literally changes nothing if you flip flopped them.

it takes the heat off of them for picking OU in the last playoff slot.

 

[Hstead]

There's no question UGA and Bama both would have been in, that's pretty clear.

You could have seriously argued though that Bama shoulda been left out though considering how awful they looked until UGA decided to fall apart even harder and let them off the hook.

I think Bama is the best team this year, but after watching that game they are definitely beatable. You can say "OU Sucks" but they will be by far the best offense Bama has faced all season. There's been times this year where Bama's D hasnt looked so hot so could be an interesting game.

Dude, Citadel's option can be brutal to stop.

 

[Nutriaitch]

I think Bama is the best team this year, but after watching that game they are definitely beatable. You can say "OU Sucks" but they will be by far the best offense Bama has faced all season. There's been times this year where Bama's D hasnt looked so hot so could be an interesting game.

for about a half. maybe three quarters.

OU has a TERRIBLE defense, so Bama can match them score for score until D figures it out.

UGA played good enough on D to keep Bama off the board (until the collapsed). I don’t think OU can do that.

 

[Ryan36_1]

This is so much worse than them being simply voted at 5.

At this point, fair or not, hasn't the SEC won a ton of championships vs other conferences?

Bitch about the system, but if they're working it, we need to work it. The best fucking way to work it and gain back the respect we deserve is WIN THE DAMN CHAMPIONSHIP. Whatever it takes, scheduling, sure.... but mostly fucking not losing to unranked nobody teams. Honestly, ttun has HUGE reason to bitch...... they lost to 2 top 10 teams and yeah they got destroyed in the Shoe...... but they didn't fucking lose by 29 to nobody.

If you think the BCS was better, the SEC STILL had way more appearances and 4-5 teams represented in the BCS game while the B1G was represented ONLY by tOSU in those years and only 3 times.

With the CFP it's closer, just Bama 4-5 times and GA just once, I think, from the SEC.... vs..... again, tOSU twice and Sparty once. The B1G isn't working that system either, apparently.

Part of being champions means doing what it takes to win not only games, but respect. If the B1G had more teams that simply COULDN'T be ignored, who fucking won out, who didn't spend every Saturday squeaking past teams they should hang 40 on.... they'd get respect. It's hard to say....."the B1G is so tough," when outside of Sparty it's been decades since anyone but us has been to the dance because they COULDN'T ignore them.

Reality, folks. The B1G has some work to do to get the respect we feel it deserves and used to have.

How about before this SEC narrative started and OSU-Scum didn't get the benefit of the doubt in 06. Was unheard of to consider (until a few years later) B1G was regularly putting 5-6 teams in top 25 for decade leading up to that. Where was the benefit of the doubt for 2015 OSU who didn't lost 1 game in which they had lead the entire game until 0:00 on the clock - to a top 4 team.

It does matter though. The fact that UGA was even in any consideration to stay in the top 4 after taking a 2nd loss while 2 other P5 champs won their conference title game with 1 loss should be a big problem. But some people seem to give a free pass to it.

THIS.

Again....

OUR RESPONSIBILITY NOT TO LOOK LIKE SHIT.

Whining now makes us look weak. Who gives a rats ass about 5 or 6? Who should?

We're damn lucky not to be 10-3..... STILL. That's not some fucking committee's fault.

Man the fuck up. Control what we can..... instead of whining about how "they screwed us......" The Old Man would be screaming, "Don't give the bastards a chance to screw you. Beat the hell out of people and they'll take notice."

Anyone who wants a NATIONAL championship should give a rats ass. You better be damn well sure before a conference gets two in. Last year may have been right. 2015 probably was the right call even though it would have been different if we had a cursive A on our helmets. UGA being ahead of us is an absolute sham - no other way to describe it.

Did you watch tOSU this year? I did.

How'd you enjoy that Corn game? How about that PSU game? MD?

Again, just on the W-L..... I'll concede all day. GA is a 2 loss team. I'm not sure GA could be a 3 loss team....... but I'm damn sure SEVERAL REGULAR POSTERS HERE were saying we might be earlier in the year.

I thoroughly enjoyed PSU and MD. Listened to 1st half of Nebraska game on radio, but enjoyed watching the second half of that game as well.

I like how criticizing the committee's clear bias toward the SEC is being an "OSU FAN BOY"

I don't think anyone here is saying for certain that "OHIO STATE GOT ROBBED!"

My beef is that UGA was even in the conversation. The fact that they were so seriously in it should be a major problem for anyone who isnt an SEC fan boy.

THIS

i seriously think it was done intentionally to fill air time.

i mean the show was 4 freaking hours long.
i coulda had that bitch finished in less than 30min.

so, let put UGA between Oklahoma and tOSU to give us something to babble about for along stretch of time.

I think the ESPN part was absolutely. Had to create drama when the four teams were pretty much assured. But the fact that the committee put UGA 5 was no way to create a story.

 

[BuckBuckTN]

So then nothing good happened all year other than securing tears from places we dislike?

That must be a really fun way to watch football.

You tell me. I watched. It was lackluster, freaking ugly at times, and certainly not the kind of fire I expect from tOSU.

I LOVE to watch him tOSU football. I'll admit I'm a "3 yards and a cloud of dust" guy and insisting on the shotgun EVERY PLAY just doesn't feel right..... but times are different, I guess.

I'm damn glad we won those close games, don't get me wrong, but..... damn..... I'd rather argue about things we're responsible for at tOSU, rather than something that was "done to us." After this long ass season, we've got plenty of our own dirt to move without worrying about some damn committee.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

Oh please, "They're not treating teams equally!" - welcome to planet Earth. I told you weeks ago the CFP is a beauty contest. The Miss America pageant had stated criteria and yet those damn subjective humans allowed the hot babe in the swimsuit to influence their opinions.

And you don't get to ignore the ugly wart on the end of our nose in that swimsuit contest simply because it detracts from your argument. No one in the top six had a loss that ugly, and to think subjective human beings - despite all of their stated criteria - weren't influenced by that train wreck would be woefully naive.

I don't know if you or the rest of the "we wuz robbed" crowd actually believe a room full of human beings are going to crank out teams like a computer or if you're just taking that position because it helps your position (in your minds), but I do know this: the last 50 or so pages of this thread would not exist if the Bucks got a CFP berth.

That, my friend, is called sour grapes. Dress it up with righteous indignation and it's still sour grapes.

I'm done discussing this with people who just want to argue, so they pretend the argument is something that isn't being said.

 

[jwinslow]

Alabama 17 and OSU 14 did not have a balanced offense until the postseason. Alabama didn't have a passer until the second half of the NC game. Before that they had a poor man's JT with a much better supporting cast.

OSU 14 doesn't make the postseason if Michigan has NW-level play at the QB spot.

This notion that great teams are always great for extended periods is pretty fun.

 

[jwinslow]

I argued it would be in the SEC's favor FOR BAMA TO LOSE. Bama loses..... GA goes in, probably, given this committee.

That's good money, good recruiting, good future TV.... for the SEC. Saban DID have some dumbass calls in the game, but in the end..... I was likely wrong that he'd be that mercenary, even though I still don't think it would have broken his heart to have GA in the CFP.

Probably? Everyone declared emphatically that Bama was in regardless, like always. They always need one more loss than everyone else.

As for the rest, it's a fun conspiracy but completely unnecessary. As an SEC member, they already reap the rewards and bragging rights for Bama's dominance. You are recommending that they have something to back up the hype, but if everyone accepts it as gospel, why do they need anything to back it up?


Scratch that: after further consideration, perhaps after winning a NC, they would also be granted the "first loss doesn't count" card that Alabama has enjoyed. So that would be an interesting twist.

 

[BuckBuckTN]

Alabama 17 and OSU 14 did not have a balanced offense until the postseason. Alabama didn't have a passer until the second half of the NC game. Before that they had a poor man's JT with a much better supporting cast.

????

So pick teams from the top 10 at random since "anything can happen?"

Look, if you think nothing matters because God only knows what could happen postseason, then does the performance in the season matter to you?

The CFP is favoring the SEC because.... SEC teams are ranked (right or wrong) higher NOT JUST BY THEM consistently in the past few years. There was a time when B1G teams were respected and got good ranking "automatically" from the gitgo...... I, personally, liked those days.

It's going to be subjective, they'll be the "bubble" every year REGARDLESS of expanding, reorganizing, or whatever. A group will make the call...... and it'll always be partially based on hype, not what we think the "facts" are.

It's apples and oranges when you don't have clear same opponents, similar schedules, etc.

None of the rankings matter as much as getting our house in order. Wondering why we're 6...... when we should be wondering what we're going to do with Bama or Clemson. That's on us...... and that matters more to me.

 

[jwinslow]

????

So pick teams from the top 10 at random since "anything can happen?"

Look, if you think nothing matters because God only knows what could happen postseason, then does the performance in the season matter to you?

The CFP is favoring the SEC because.... SEC teams are ranked (right or wrong) higher NOT JUST BY THEM consistently in the past few years. There was a time when B1G teams were respected and got good ranking "automatically" from the gitgo...... I, personally, liked those days.

It's going to be subjective, they'll be the "bubble" every year REGARDLESS of expanding, reorganizing, or whatever. A group will make the call...... and it'll always be partially based on hype, not what we think the "facts" are.

It's apples and oranges when you don't have clear same opponents, similar schedules, etc.

None of the rankings matter as much as getting our house in order. Wondering why we're 6...... when we should be wondering what we're going to do with Bama or Clemson. That's on us...... and that matters more to me.

I grow weary of the amount of arguments you've stuffed down people's throats. That's not what I'm saying whatsoever.

I've been a hard-line proponent of avoiding too much expansion to preserve the regular season, but when you have a system that was one idiotic call away from excluding 3/5 of the power 5, there's a major problem.

When the mouthpiece and network of that system still wants to exclude 3/5 of the conferences after UGA loses, then things are critical.

 

[BuckBuckTN]

I grow weary of the amount of arguments you've stuffed down people's throats.

One argument.

We own our issue.

We SHOULD be in the dance. It's not a committee, a SEC conspiracy, or anything else but us.

Win the damn games you should, go to the damn CFP.

When you don't, NOTHING ELSE matters. 5, 6, 7, 8..... none of those should be us and no amount of "why aren't we 5" matters one whit.

We should be 3. We aren't. We own that.

 

[LovelandBuckeye]

STILL..... you, nor anyone else, has stepped up to say, "What a great year this was to be a Buckeye.

Every year...I mean every F'ing year is a great year to be a Buckeye. I was born a Buckeye and will die a Buckeye no matter if I die in Ohio, Colorado, Afghanistan, Poland, Brazil, TSUN, etc.

@BuckeyeTillIDie has the best name on this site but @Jaxbuck looks better...in his/her avatar.

Beat Washington!

 

[LovelandBuckeye]

...and the Oklahoma/Oklahoma State game was on November 10. Much like OSU/Maryland, Oklahoma needed (and got) a stop on a two-point conversion, or they would have lost the game. At home. Against an Oklahoma State team that finished the season 6-6.

Yeah, but Maryland ain't got the power of the Mullet!

 

[Ryan36_1]

One argument.

We own our issue.

We SHOULD be in the dance. It's not a committee, a SEC conspiracy, or anything else but us.

Win the damn games you should, go to the damn CFP.

When you don't, NOTHING ELSE matters. 5, 6, 7, 8..... none of those should be us and no amount of "why aren't we 5" matters one whit.

We should be 3. We aren't. We own that.

So never lose and never look bad. Glad it is that easy.

So the media (and maybe committee) votes to put in UGA over OK are ok with you? The Sooners lost one game to a rival by 3 and avenged that loss. You are ok with them being in a debate with a two loss non-conference champion who had their doors blown off?

 

[jwinslow]

One argument.

"You think OSU was screwed"
"You think nothing matters"
Etc

We own our issue.

We SHOULD be in the dance.

no they shouldn't, they simply weren't good enough this year. That's ok. It's not a birthright no matter how savagely this era has blinded people and robbed them of their joy.

It's not a committee, a SEC conspiracy, or anything else but us.

Win the damn games you should, go to the damn CFP.

win the games you can. There is no should.

Also, since it didn't sink in the last seventy times, we all watched the games. We are familiar with why OSU isn't in. That's not the topic we are discussing.

When you don't, NOTHING ELSE matters. 5, 6, 7, 8..... none of those should be us and no amount of "why aren't we 5" matters one whit.

We should be 3. We aren't. We own that.

It does when you're required to win 1 more game than a team that didn't earn a single thread of the coattails they are riding.

That's what you can't get through your head during these outrageously narrow conversation subtopics that you keep throwing in everyone's faces as reality.