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fourteenandoh;1727966; said:
you don't play a cut by chance do you. :biggrin: that's quite the high finish
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lol, actually no, I play a slight push draw. I have a high finish because I'm shut at the top of my swing and finish high to compensate.

That shot was also a knock down shot which also means I finished more down the line and high at that point, so it looks a little exaggerated.
 
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Been playing a couple times a week at my home track (Hickory Hills Golf Club) but have also had a few rounds at other places...Cook's Creek, OSU Scarlet and Northstar. Playing on Saturday in an outing for RHDD (Residential Home For The Developmentally Disabled) at Jaycee Zanesville. My game has gone to hell all of a sudden...I literally can't hit a drive and keep it in play. I am over-rotating or something because I used to hit a slight fade off the tee and now I am snap hooking drives routinely. Luckily my short game has been working and I've still managed to break 90 just about every time I've been out but it is getting really frustrating. I'm a 9 handicap at my home course and playing more like an 18. I plan to spend Sunday on the range trying to get it worked out...
 
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I still haven't been playing for a year quite yet. I played nine holes last week after work and didn't hit a single damn fairway and somehow shot a personal best 44. Needless to say, I scrambled my ass off.

I still can't reconcile my driver swing and my iron swing. Starting off this year, I really had to work on getting proper wrist action. In a few weeks time I was able turn my horrible slice into a nice power fade, and for a stretch was hitting roughly 66% of fairways. In the process though, I got to much wrist action in my irons and began pulling or pull-hooking everything - destroying any benefit of landing my tee shot on the fairway in the first place. I've started to focus on taking some of the wrist action out of my irons, and the slice has started to creep back in on my driver. It's not as bad as it was before, but I want to be able to put it all together.

I'm playing a scramble north of Dayton next week - it's the same one I played last year as my second round of golf ever. Our team came in last a year ago. My goal this year is to improve to next-to-last. :)
 
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jlb1705;1728178; said:
I still can't reconcile my driver swing and my iron swing.
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This is exactly what I am struggling with...my swing provides high approach shots with my irons but it causing me to snap hook drives. I think I just rotate the club around my back too much...
 
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wadc45;1728197; said:
This is exactly what I am struggling with...my swing provides high approach shots with my irons but it causing me to snap hook drives. I think I just rotate the club around my back too much...
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check your ball position. there is an outside chance that you have allowed the ball to creep too far forward at adress. this will cause what is usually a fade to magically turn into a hook. its a bit of a personal decision, but as a general rule you want the ball just off the inside of your left knee for all clubs. the longer the club, the wider your stance thus the further forward the ball gets as you hit longer clubs.
 
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fourteenandoh;1728264; said:
check your ball position. there is an outside chance that you have allowed the ball to creep too far forward at adress. this will cause what is usually a fade to magically turn into a hook. its a bit of a personal decision, but as a general rule you want the ball just off the inside of your left knee for all clubs. the longer the club, the wider your stance thus the further forward the ball gets as you hit longer clubs.
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Thanks for that...I really feel like my address might be the issue. I tend to play the ball more towards the middle of my stance, even off the tee, because of how high I naturally hit the ball. If I play the ball too far forward I end up losing distance. I am going to move the ball around in my stance and also mess around with the width of my stance until I find something that is comfortable. From there, I just need to get the timing of my wrist turn synced up like it is with my irons...
 
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fourteenandoh;1728264; said:
check your ball position. there is an outside chance that you have allowed the ball to creep too far forward at adress. this will cause what is usually a fade to magically turn into a hook. its a bit of a personal decision, but as a general rule you want the ball just off the inside of your left knee for all clubs. the longer the club, the wider your stance thus the further forward the ball gets as you hit longer clubs.
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That's one thing I've done to try to fix my irons. I had started off actually playing my iron shots centered over the ball, and found that my ball position had crept forward to about the inside of my forward foot. By the time I would strike the ball in that position, I had already started to close the clubhead on my follow-through.
 
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wadc45;1728294; said:
Thanks for that...I really feel like my address might be the issue. I tend to play the ball more towards the middle of my stance, even off the tee, because of how high I naturally hit the ball. If I play the ball too far forward I end up losing distance. I am going to move the ball around in my stance and also mess around with the width of my stance until I find something that is comfortable. From there, I just need to get the timing of my wrist turn synced up like it is with my irons...
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It also sounds like your swing plane might be a tad too step. Your plane at the bottom of your swing should be more like a "U" in shape and on an inside to outside plane. Your plane sounds like it is more like a "V" which coupled with either the ball position or the club face position causes the ball flight.

The reason I am guessing that this is the issue is that I had a similar experience when I began to play again after an absence of several years. I used to have a single digit handicap and could still get around the course in the low '80's regardless of the layoff. I joined a club this year and and started to play a lot this year. My tee shots went from a fade to snap hooks and pulls. After taking lessons for the first time ever the club's pro has reworked my swing to the shape discussed above and I have eliminated the left side of the course. The thing I remember is at impact the direction of where the back of your left hand is pointed is usually where the golf ball is going....
 
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Thump;1727950; said:
Played Clover Valley for the 1st time yesterday.

Nice track.
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Agreed. One of the best courses in the area for the buck.

Haven't been in a couple of years. Is it being better managed?

Our last round was a 5.5 hour ordeal in part because a bachelor party was the first group to go off the tees that day. They got their golf cart stuck in the creek off the first hole and ended up holding everyone up.

Still bitter about that....

Another track to play is the new former Winding Hollow CC called the East Course now (I think) very difficult, very tight, and the greens there when we played were top notch.

Off to play Delaware GC tomorrow. (Old Dornoch) usually an enjoyable round.
 
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Wingate1217;1728389; said:
It also sounds like your swing plane might be a tad too step. Your plane at the bottom of your swing should be more like a "U" in shape and on an inside to outside plane. Your plane sounds like it is more like a "V" which coupled with either the ball position or the club face position causes the ball flight.

The reason I am guessing that this is the issue is that I had a similar experience when I began to play again after an absence of several years. I used to have a single digit handicap and could still get around the course in the low '80's regardless of the layoff. I joined a club this year and and started to play a lot this year. My tee shots went from a fade to snap hooks and pulls. After taking lessons for the first time ever the club's pro has reworked my swing to the shape discussed above and I have eliminated the left side of the course. The thing I remember is at impact the direction of where the back of your left hand is pointed is usually where the golf ball is going....
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I think this is probably much closer to the reason... I'd word it a little differently, but the premise sounds correct. It's more about swing plane vs ball position. While too forward a ball position does tend cause fade/slices, it's far more likely he has an outside to in swing plane. When he squares the club (as appropriate with a correct plane) it will cause a pull, if he holds off on the club it will be a high fade/slice. Time it just perfectly (which is very hard to do) it will be an acceptable shot.

A good drill is to place a 2x4 (or foam pad pad if you're a wuss) *just* outside the ball and clubhead. If your club clips the wood/pad then you're outside in, if you hit the ball solidly and don't hit the wood/pad then you know your plane is decent.

that drill will force you to correct your plane without too much trial and error. A great drill and one of my favorites.

If you want the commercial version, the "Inside approach" is decent. But I prefer a 3 foot piece of 2x4.
 
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