THE GAME, tOSU at tCun, Sat. 11/25, 12pm ET, FOX

[Ryan36_1]

I guess my only question(s) are; other than hope, what makes you feel that way? It's been 5 years now.

I don't have the numbers but how many guys do more after year 5 than before that? (I know there have been a few)


Personally, as I have been very clear about, I don't buy it. Consider me Dennis Green. He is who I think he is and that is an elite OC.

We need better.

I mean you’ll probably just chaulk this up as ‘hope’ but:

2019: Two very questionable calls overturned by the booth and we were still a miscommunicated route away from playing for a NC. Embarrass #13 Mich along the way.

2020: Play for NC and lose to a stacked Bama. Michigan ducks us.

2021: Finesse team. Get beat up in Game. Win Rose Bowl. Something that I believe we were crediting Tress and Urban for I beleive.

2022: Day makes changes on D and offensively. Don’t have Trey. Were up at half. Agressive plays bite us in ass. Despite that, we take UGA to brink in midst of 30 game win streak and maybe three consecutive NCs. Probably win if Marv doesn’t go out. Probably win NC if that happens.

2023: Start season #3. Live up to that expectation? Not that we will end ranked #3 but took #2 to brink at thier house.

I absolutely realize that at this point, the majority of ‘could go either way’ games and plays have not gone Day’s way. And I definitely realize that once there is a pattern of said close calls, maybe the invovled individual just doesn’t have it.

I just don’t think that based on the success in all other areas, we have a large enough sample size to judge. I mean the man is averaging 1.4 losses per season. Every non national champion is guaranteed at least 1. The coaches we are stacking him up against won at a less than once every 5 years pace.

 

[baremu527]

That was a response to someone who wanted coaches from the Meyer tree with ties to Ohio. It was to show the fallacy in that kind of logic in looking for the perfect coach for Ohio State. There are not that many and the ones that meet that criteria are Tim Beck.

Oh ok I see now lol. I take back my snarky-ness lol

 

[Buckeyefrankmp]

I'll lay this out there...Day loses to them again next year and Fickell has a bounce-back year in Cheeseland, bring Luke home.

With everything going on at Michigan this season, they won't have much of a team next year. They are losing around 40 players who are going to lose eligibility. With the NCAA violations, how many more will enter the transfer portal? How many recruits will open up their recruiting and flip? If Day does lose to Michigan next year, something is very wrong.

 

[Jaxbuck]

Doesn’t mean they are better than Day. With him we know we are winning every game except maybe the last one. Can we really guarantee the same results with another coach? Any other coach I guarantee we have 1-2 losses by Michigan with this QB.

and I guarantee we win it al with another coach

see how easy that is?

I mean you’ll probably just chaulk this up as ‘hope’ but:

2019: Two very questionable calls overturned by the booth and we were still a miscommunicated route away from playing for a NC. Embarrass #13 Mich along the way.

2020: Play for NC and lose to a stacked Bama. Michigan ducks us.

2021: Finesse team. Get beat up in Game. Win Rose Bowl. Something that I believe we were crediting Tress and Urban for I beleive.

2022: Day makes changes on D and offensively. Don’t have Trey. Were up at half. Agressive plays bite us in ass. Despite that, we take UGA to brink in midst of 30 game win streak and maybe three consecutive NCs. Probably win if Marv doesn’t go out. Probably win NC if that happens.

2023: Start season #3. Live up to that expectation? Not that we will end ranked #3 but took #2 to brink at thier house.

I absolutely realize that at this point, the majority of ‘could go either way’ games and plays have not gone Day’s way. And I definitely realize that once there is a pattern of said close calls, maybe the invovled individual just doesn’t have it.

I just don’t think that based on the success in all other areas, we have a large enough sample size to judge. I mean the man is averaging 1.4 losses per season. Every non national champion is guaranteed at least 1. The coaches we are stacking him up against won at a less than once every 5 years pace.

I don't chalk that up to hope.

It's more fanboy nonsense imo.

Need more than 5 years to be sure do we? Ok. Duly noted.

 

[Buckeyefrankmp]

Oh ok I see now lol. I take back my snarky-ness lol

No problem.

 

[inliner311]

Again, this was a QB issue. Coach put him in position to win. He didn’t execute. Left people open, made bad passes, etc.

In the era of the transfer portal and players don't have to sit out a year, a team like Ohio State shouldn't have to start a QB before he is ready or developed. I think it's pretty clear now that Devin Brown or McCord weren't good options at QB. Day should have recognized that and gone after someone in the portal.

There is give and take to winning in college football. If Day wasn't willing to hurt both Devin Brown and McCord's feelings that they weren't ready then he had to change his system to accommodate them. That means maybe some of WRs wouldn't play as much so they could get blocking and different looks on to the field to take pressure off your QB.

 

[jarv]

Doesn’t mean they are better than Day. With him we know we are winning every game except maybe the last one. Can we really guarantee the same results with another coach? Any other coach I guarantee we have 1-2 losses by Michigan with this QB.

With Day we know we are winning every game except against top 5 teams.

We are the Ohio State fucking Buckeyes. We have top recruiting classes, NFL talent on both sides of the ball and unlimited resources. There's zero excuse for 1-3 against Michigan and 1-6 against top 5 teams. That's not bad luck and a few balls bouncing the wrong way. It's a pattern. It's failing to get the job done and folding under pressure against equal or better talent.

 

[AKAK]

All I hear there is "excuse...excuse..excuse.."

It's time to wake the fuck up and let COVID go.

This guy can't get it done against anyone in his weight class. Seems like an obvious decision point to me.

Those who want to rock out to wins over Indiana and those expect more.

Who is going get it done who is in his weight class?

I'll hang up and listen.

 

[1926Buckeyes]

If it weren't for Freeman's incompetence he does lose to ND this year.

So it's the opposite of the SEC? Even his wins are losses.

This is Ohio State. We are the biggest brand in college football. A chimpanzee could recruit the talent to finish top 12.

This is the dumbest talking point that always gets brought up. Tressel struggled to consistently pull in top 10 classes. If you're not obsessed with recruiting and hiring assistants who are as well, you'll struggle to be in the top 10-15.

I guess my only question(s) are; other than hope, what makes you feel that way? It's been 5 years now.

I don't have the numbers but how many guys do more after year 5 than before that? (I know there have been a few)

Personally, as I have been very clear about, I don't buy it. Consider me Dennis Green. He is who I think he is and that is an elite OC.

We need better.

He's as consistent as anyone in the country, has put together a very good coaching staff, and recruits at a top 3 level.

In 5 years, he's dealt with a once in a century pandemic and an historic cheating operation by his rival that invalidates the '21 and '22 losses. His teams play hard and do not quit.

I think he'll eventually have a breakthrough season.

 

[Jaxbuck]

Who is going get it done who is in his weight class?

I'll hang up and listen.

Give me a list of coaches who wouldn't jump to OSU right now and couldn't beat Jim Harbaugh's crying bitch assistant.

Who beat his ass from TCU last year?

 

[Jaxbuck]

So it's the opposite of the SEC? Even his wins are losses.



This is the dumbest talking point that always gets brought up. Tressel struggled to consistently pull in top 10 classes. If you're not obsessed with recruiting and hiring assistants who are as well, you'll struggle to be in the top 10-15.



He's as consistent as anyone in the country, has put together a very good coaching staff, and recruits at a top 3 level.

In 5 years, he's dealt with a once in a century pandemic and an historic cheating operation by his rival that invalidates the '21 and '22 losses. His teams play hard and do not quit.

I think he'll eventually have a breakthrough season.

every coach dealt with COVID...time to let it go

The next breakthrough this clown has will involve his finger and toilet paper. He's a loser born and bred.

 

[baremu527]

and I guarantee we win it al with another coach

see how easy that is?


I don't chalk that up to hope.

It's more fanboy nonsense imo.

Need more than 5 years to be sure do we? Ok. Duly noted.

I’m not saying another coach automatically does worse. I’m just saying they could also do a hell of a lot worse by our standards. We have a very good coach right now. Is he great? Idk, but he’s not bad by any means. There’s no one who is proven who we can get. We’d literally be taking a flyer on someone without any recruiting juice. It’ll be like dumping Natalie Portman because you think you can get Margot Robbie/Scarlet Johansson. But in this scenario there’s no clear bombshell out here.

 

[AKAK]

Give me a list of coaches who wouldn't jump to OSU right now and couldn't beat Jim Harbaugh's crying bitch assistant.

Who beat his ass from TCU last year?

I asked an easy question.

 

[Jaxbuck]

I asked an easy question.

and I keep giving an easy answer

I don't have a comprehensive list of guys who can take over. Don't need to. Isn't my job. The empty suit AD should have one.

TCU found a guy who can overcome the insurmountable genius of Jim Harbaugh. An OSU AD who's actually engaged and gives a shit should be able to outdo his TCU counterpart at the very least.

There are maybe 4-5 guys who wouldn't come here.

 

[AKAK]

and I keep giving an easy answer

I don't have a comprehensive list of guys who can take over. Don't need to. Isn't my job. The empty suit AD should have one.

TCU found a guy who can overcome the insurmountable genius of Jim Harbaugh. An OSU AD who's actually engaged and gives a shit should be able to outdo his TCU counterpart at the very least.

There are maybe 4-5 guys who wouldn't come here.

What is the name of the human you want to replace Ryan Day.

I mean, I'm good with it if there is a plan.