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Game Thread THE GAME: #1 Ohio State 42, #2 Michigan 39 (11/18/06)

BB73;660384; said:
My response: Yes, we will enjoy watching TSUN play on New Year's Day, since that's when the Rose Bowl is played. I hope they have fun watching the Buckeyes play in Glendale on Jan. 8th!

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Exactly. What a dumbass. If you're going to embarass yourself that much, at least get your facts right. Wow.
 
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Double Amen. I want the boos to rain down so loud when their band strkes up the first note of their wretched fight song that it isn't even audible. Every down the noise needs to be brought. They better get their plays right in the huddle because there is no way theyre going to be able to communicate outside of it.
Hmmm...i'd like to make it so loud that they can't hear in the huddle.
 
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Bo warns Buckeyes

"Don't sniff our bags Saturday."
November 13, 2006
By BILL McGRAW
FREE PRESS COLUMNIST


ANN ARBOR ? He?s a little pale. He?s walking a little slower. He is 77 and was in the hospital recently because of his heart.

But the grimace and growl that has characterized Bo Schembechler since he blew into Michigan in 1969 resurfaced periodically during an appearance Monday at the University of Michigan.

Talking about the exuberant, emotional and sometimes overtly hostile surroundings in Columbus when Ohio State plays Michigan, Schembechler explained he wouldn?t be attending Saturday?s game ?only because I can?t walk well enough.?

Then he paused. His eyes narrowed, and his voice got gravelly and determined and he spit out, ?CUZ I?D GO RIGHT THROUGH THOSE PEOPLE.?

Schembechler said that in a hallway after he had entertained reporters for more than 30 minutes with recollections of Woody Hayes, Ohio State and Wolverine teams of yesteryear.

With a growl, he reminded the crowd that there was a time when the loser of the Michigan-Ohio State game went ?NOWHERE!?

No bowl game, no consolation whatsoever. ?We went back home and licked our wounds,? he said.

Michigan coach Lloyd Carr has acknowledged the team has been spending some practice time preparing for Ohio State, even before this week. Asked how often his teams drilled for the Buckeyes, Schembechler switched into growl mode again and said, ?EVERY DAY!?

?It was our strategy here at Michigan to do something to beat Ohio State EVERY DAY!?

Schembechler, of course, coached under Hayes at OSU for five years. He received a master?s degree from OSU and admitted he has many friends there. ?I have enormous respect for Ohio State,? he said. ?Enormous.?

He worked for Hayes, Schembechler recalled, when Woody was at the most ?irascible? point in his ornery life. ?He was the worst guy in the world to work for,? Schembler said, quickly adding, ?I wouldn?t change any of it.?

He then told a story of how Woody once, after a loss, called a team meeting at his house and was rolling 16 mm film on a projector. He eventually became so enraged that he picked up the projector and threw it across the room, telling his team ?I won?t subject the people of Columbus to football like that.?

Said Bo: ?I?ll never forget how tough that guy was.?

Bo had a warning for the Buckeyes: If they pull something like they did two years ago, when OSU officials ? and dogs -- searched and sniffed the bags of Michigan players, ?SOMEONE OUGHT TO INVESTIGATE.

?BY GOD, THEY BETTER NOT DO THAT AGAIN. AND YOU CAN TAKE THAT BACK TO THEM.?
 
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osugrad21;660448; said:
Bo had a warning for the Buckeyes: If they pull something like they did two years ago, when OSU officials ? and dogs -- searched and sniffed the bags of Michigan players, ?SOMEONE OUGHT TO INVESTIGATE.

?BY GOD, THEY BETTER NOT DO THAT AGAIN. AND YOU CAN TAKE THAT BACK TO THEM.?


Duely noted Bo.

The first thing they see getting off the bus should now be:


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Let’s save the time, the effort, and the energy

[FONT=verdana, arial, sans serif][SIZE=-2]By Pete Fiutak
[/SIZE][/FONT]1. Bring the national championship trophy to Columbus this weekend and just give it to the winner of the Michigan – Ohio State game. Enough is enough this year. Has Florida looked even remotely like a national title caliber team? USC lost to an Oregon State team that just got thumped by UCLA. Does Arkansas really belong in the national title considering it got obliterated 50-14 at home by the Trojans? Sure, that was a lifetime ago, but the loss has to still count for something. Notre Dame needed everything in its bag to beat Michigan State and UCLA and, in case you forgot, got its doors blown off by Michigan. Rutgers? I know, cute story, but come on. Texas, Cal, Auburn … thanks for playing. And no, there shouldn’t be a rematch no matter what happens next weekend. What happens in Columbus, stays in Columbus.

Not only have Ohio State and Michigan had the two best teams all year, there isn’t anyone else deserving to be in the picture. In the storied history of college football’s greatest rivalry, and it is college football’s greatest rivalry, this will be the biggest game ever played between the two. That makes this, arguably, the biggest regular season game in the history of the sport. So let this weekend be it. Crown the winner the national champion, and let’s get the talk about the 2007 season goin
 
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This e-mail was allegedly sent out by the U of M alumni association:

We know that it can be uncomfortable being in an opposing team's environment,
especially when the stakes are so high. We would like to offer a few suggestions in order to help you
stay safe and have a positive experience this weekend:

--Try carpooling to the game; if possible, drive a car with non- Michigan
license plates.

--Keep your Michigan gear to a minimum, or wait until you are inside the
stadium to display it.
--Stay with a group.
--Know and obey the laws regarding alcohol use.
--If you are of legal age to drink, use alcohol in moderation. Stay in the
blue.
--Stay low-key; don't draw unnecessary attention to yourself.
--If verbally harrassed by opposing fans, don't take the bait.
--Avoid High Street in Columbus.

If at any time you feel unsafe, you should call 9-1-1 for assistance. U-M
campus police also will be available in Columbus
to support our fans. You may
call them with non-emergency concerns at (734) 216-9159.

I know that this is all pretty much common sense, but it surprised me that they would explicitly advise not driving down with a M*ch*g*n license plate, or that they would advise staying away from the place where all the food is.

I am also very surprised that they would have their own campus police available. Is this a standard practice?
 
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Ohio State's Tressel continues to be thorn in side of Michigan's Carr

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COLUMBUS, Ohio ? Somewhere up north, the other coach ? the one who might need this game even more than he does ? is plotting against him. But this is only Monday and college football's Gettysburg is five days away, so there is time to chat with the media.
"It's finally here," Jim Tressel begins about Ohio State-Michigan. "What you've been talking about for six weeks."
He seems a benign sort. A man of careful words for public consumption, who can churn out more vanilla than Baskin-Robbins.
Take a look at Jim Tressel. Bespectacled father of four. Who could guess he would cause so much misery for poor Lloyd Carr, grandfather of 10?
Oh, but he's trouble, all right. Been that way since the first day he took the Ohio State job. Remember what he told a basketball crowd at halftime that night?
"You'll be proud of our young people in the classroom, in the community, and most especially in 310 days in Ann Arbor, Michigan on the football field."
And 310 days later, there was unranked Ohio State, dumping the No. 11 Wolverines in their own big house. The only man I can think of to cause more pain for the state of Michigan ever since is the CEO of Toyota.
Poor Lloyd Carr has won more than 76% of his games and is 16-6 against opponents ranked in the top 10 and has a national championship on his resume, and shouldn't have anything to prove to anyone, from tailgate party to talk show.
But he is 1-4 against Tressel. That's bad enough, but 1-5 would be even worse. So that is one of Saturday's plotlines. How Jim Tressel has been the cloud in Poor Lloyd Carr's sky.
Someone asked Tressel's feeling about a Michigan record that could make a guy governor of Ohio.
"It has nothing to do with 2006," he said. "That's the biggest feeling"
This rivalry has had Woody vs. Bo. Jim vs. Lloyd doesn't quite have the same ring, does it?
They are not chums, but neither do they seem like enemies. But they will always be linked, as long as they meet in November.
"There might be a little but more understanding on my part, knowing exactly what he's living every day," Tressel said of their relationship. "We're so busy we don't have a whole bunch of time to feel."
Tressel did mention a story his early days as head coach at Ohio State, concerning a player both schools were recruiting. "I'll never forget this. I remember the youngster saying that (Carr) told him, 'The one thing you want to do is go to one of the two schools because this is the greatest rivalry in college football and you want to be a part of it.'
"That was my first time being in this seat and him in that seat. I was tremendously impressed with his feeling for what Ohio State and Michigan are both all about."
But might Tressel know some answers that poor Lloyd Carr does not? Some have suggested it might be in his demeanor, kept rigorously at room temperature. "Coach Tressel is Coach Tressel, 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 52 weeks a year," center Doug Datish says Monday.
But Tressel claims no secret. Just good players.
"Troy Smith spins and runs 46 yards? Now, c'mon. I don't have any answers.
"If anyone pretends to think they have the answers, they've got a problem."
The questions keep coming Monday from a crowded room, some at the same time. Tressel grows fidgety. "We have anarchy here," he says.
The rhythm of Michigan week is underway. Tressel was watching film early Monday morning when quarterback Troy Smith popped in with his cereal, so eager to study the Wolverines, "he almost grabbed the clicker and took over."
Now there is more film to study. More dangers to worry about. Some parting thoughts:
"In a game like this, you'd better play better than you are."
Tressel has shown he knows how to make the Buckeyes do that. And they'll be at home Saturday.
Poor Lloyd Carr.
 
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Michigan's Carr can silence remaining critics

Updated: Nov.13, 2006, 7:17 pm ESTANN ARBOR, Mich. (AP) -- Lloyd Carr has quieted most of the criticism about his coaching this year, leading Michigan to an 11-0 record and its best season since he won the 1997 national title.
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Carr can silence his remaining critics -- perhaps one last time -- if he can help the second-ranked Wolverines beat No. 1 Ohio State on the road Saturday and earn a spot in the national championship game.If Michigan loses, his record against Buckeyes coach Jim Tressel will drop to 1-5 and to 6-6 overall in one of the most storied rivalries in sports.Carr has never been one to defend his mark against Tressel or anyone, but his mentor came to his defense when the topic arose Monday. AP Photo/Paul SancyaLloyd Carr has beaten Ohio State coach Jim Tressel just one time in five meetings.

"That's hogwash," former Michigan coach Bo Schembechler said. "Go back through the history of the Michigan-Ohio State series ... one would win two, three in a row. That's just the way it is."I think we should go back and look at Lloyd's record. I don't care whether he beats Tressel or not."

Carr is 113-34 overall -- winning 77 percent of his games to rank among active coaching leaders -- and 75-20 in the Big Ten with five conference championships in 12 seasons as head coach. Against Top-10 teams, he is 16-6 and has won eight of 10 against teams in the top five.

But at Michigan and Ohio State, how you fare in the rivalry is what really matters.Just ask John Cooper.Cooper won 72 percent of his games with the Buckeyes, but was 2-10-1 against the Wolverines -- including a 1-5 mark against Carr.When Tressel was hired in 2001, he didn't waste any time letting fans understand what his focus was. Four hours after being formally announced as Cooper's successor, Tressel sent the crowd at a Michigan-Ohio State basketball game into a frenzy."I can assure you that you'll be proud of our young people in the classroom, in the community -- and especially in 310 days in Ann Arbor, Michigan," Tressel said on Jan. 18, 2001.

Tressel was right.The Buckeyes beat Michigan 26-20 on the road in his debut season. After losing to Michigan in 2003, Tressel has led the Buckeyes to two straight wins and has a chance to lead them to three straight wins in the series for the first time since the early 1960s.Tressel agreed that coaches in the rivalry are given too much credit -- and criticism.

"Not unlike the quarterback sometimes gets blamed for things and maybe there wasn't good protection or a ball was dropped here or there, and the same as with a coach," he said.Carr has been hailed as a great coach and has been second-guessed like a rookie, and the latter happened a lot last season and then carried into the winter, spring and summer.Michigan was 7-5 in 2005 -- its worst since in two decades -- and closed a second straight season with losses to Ohio State and in bowl games.

"When you had the type of season we had, you're either going to back down and you're going to continue that trend, or you're going get up and fight," Carr said. "I don't think there's any question that it motivated all of us, and that's what it should have done.

"Carr found a motivational ploy that worked this season, like he did in 1997, with a book -- Jon Krakauer's "Into Thin Air" -- about a group that used teamwork to climb Mt. Everest. He started showing clips from the movie "Cinderella Man" during preseason practices and has gone back to it the day before each game this season.A boxer in the movie tells his trainer that his opponent is not the same guy he was previously, just as the Wolverines don't believe they're the same team they were last year.

"It fits perfectly," offensive tackle Rueben Riley said.Carr's new coordinators also provided a flawless match, with Ron English getting rid of a bend-but-don't-break scheme on defense and Mike DeBord implementing a zone-blocking style similar to what has worked for the Denver Broncos for years.The coaching changes were made without Carr having to fire his previous coordinators, allowing them to leave to be NFL assistants."Coach Carr is loyal, but you do what you have to do," said former Wolverine David Baas, a San Francisco 49ers guard. "He did, and it's worked.

"But the truth is, a lot of what Carr accomplished this season in a bounce-back year will be forgotten if he loses to Tressel for a fifth time in six games.Willis Barringer, a Michigan safety and Ohio native, provided a much-needed dose of levity to the story when asked what he would say to people who think Tressel has Carr's number.

"He should call him sometime," Barringer said
 
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