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The 2011 Ohio State Buckeyes: What will their legacy be?

I still say that 1987 is easily the most disappointing SEASON in the past 40 years. That '87 team was loaded and only lost Cris Carter (only ?). Going 6-4-1 with that squad was criminal.

I'd put '99 in 2nd place.....and this season in 3rd place.

However, I will place this senior class in a class of their own as being the most disappointing group of players to come through OSU in the last 40 years.


scarletngray;2077472; said:
I've been a BUCKEYE fan for over 40 yrs and this is easily the most disappointing season I have ever gone through and it's not even close.

And I'll stop at that....

:osu:
 
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1987:

West Virginia: W 24-3
Oregon: W 24-14
@ LSU: T 13-13
@ Illinois: W 10-6
Indiana: L 31-10
@ Purdue: W 20-17
Minnesota: W 42-9
Michigan State: L 13-7
@ Wisconsin: L 26-24
Iowa: L 29-27
@ Michigan: W 23-20

1999

Miami: L 23-12
ULCA: W 42-20
Ohio: W 40-16
Cincinnati: W 34-20
Wiconsin: L 42-17
Purdue: W 25-22
@Penn State: L 23-10
@Minnesota: W 20-17
Iowa: W 41-11
@ Michigan State: L 23-7
Illinois: L 46-20
@ Michigan: L 24-17

2011

Akron: W 42-0
Toledo: W 27-22
@ Miami: L 24-6
Colorado: W 37-17
Michigan State: L 10-7
@ Nebraska: L 34-27
@ Illinois: W 17-7
Wisconsin: W 33-29
Indiana: W 34-20
@ Purdue: L 26-23
@ Michigan: L 41-34
Florida: L 24-17

When you look at the body of work, all three of these teams had decent records going into November where things just imploded. And all lost games that they shouldn't have lost at some point on September or October. I might agree with your sentiment, DaveyBoy, with all things considered, though some might argue that at least this 6-6 club made a bowl game, while I would point to the fact that they probably shouldn't have.
 
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darbypitcher22;2077610; said:
1987:

West Virginia: W 24-3
Oregon: W 24-14
@ LSU: T 13-13
@ Illinois: W 10-6
Indiana: L 31-10
@ Purdue: W 20-17
Minnesota: W 42-9
Michigan State: L 13-7
@ Wisconsin: L 26-24
Iowa: L 29-27
@ Michigan: W 23-20

That alone disqualifies 1987.

1999

Miami: L 23-12
ULCA: W 42-20
Ohio: W 40-16
Cincinnati: W 34-20
Wiconsin: L 42-17
Purdue: W 25-22
@Penn State: L 23-10
@Minnesota: W 20-17
Iowa: W 41-11
@ Michigan State: L 23-7
Illinois: L 46-20
@ Michigan: L 24-17
1999 was a disappointing season, but it didn't compare to this season for two reasons. First, the Big Ten was actually very good in 1999. Wisconsin, Michigan, Michigan State, and Ped State all finished in the top 11 that season, and Minnesota, Illinois, and Purdue all fielded pretty good teams that finished the season or spent time in the top 25. Conversely, this season's Big Ten conference was one of the worst, top-to-bottom, that I can remember in many years. Yet this team could only manage three conference wins and ended the season on a 5-game losing streak. Second, and perhaps more importantly, there wasn't constant turmoil and scandal surrounding the 1999 team in the same way that there was this season. Some might say that 1999 was more disappointing than this season because we missed a bowl game in 1999. Frankly, when all is said and done, this season actually became more disappointing because we accepted a bowl bid.
 
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As disappointing as this whole year has been, I'm still leaving it feeling pretty damned optimistic about the immediate future.

Contrast that with almost any Cooper year in which, no matter how well or poorly the first 10 games went, the season would end with tsun ripping our hearts out, slinking into the Citrus Bowl for another SEC loss and the empty pit in my stomach knowing that next year would be no different.
 
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ORD_Buckeye;2077662; said:
As disappointing as this whole year has been, I'm still leaving it feeling pretty damned optimistic about the immediate future.

Contrast that with almost any Cooper year in which, no matter how well or poorly the first 10 games went, the season would end with tsun ripping our hearts out, slinking into the Citrus Bowl for another SEC loss and the empty pit in my stomach knowing that next year would be no different.

This.
 
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The legacy of the TEAM will be the selfishness of a few individuals torpedoed what could have been a great season for rest of their team mates.

T. Pryor will go down as another me first player a la Maurice Clarett. A player who is as emotionally immature as he is physically talented.

This senior class that came in with such fan fare left with a whimper.

This coaching staff (minus Fickell, who had to play the hand he was dealt) will go down as a lame duck who phoned it in for most of the season.

Most disappointing season to me in the 20+ years of watching Ohio State football.
 
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As much as the 6-7 season hurts, I never thought our program would ever be subjected to what we have seen over the last 12 months. It has all been said, but I still can't believe what has transpired and that our program was tarnished to the degree that it has been
That being said, I give a tremendous amount of credit to the team and the coaches for looking ahead and moving forward. As far as the legacy of 2011 is concerned, I hope it shows that at the end of all turmoil a new era of OSU football began that culminated in the best era of OSU football ever. Go Urban and Go Bucks!
 
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DaveyBoy;2077590; said:
I still say that 1987 is easily the most disappointing SEASON in the past 40 years. That '87 team was loaded and only lost Cris Carter (only ?). Going 6-4-1 with that squad was criminal.

I'd put '99 in 2nd place.....and this season in 3rd place.

However, I will place this senior class in a class of their own as being the most disappointing group of players to come through OSU in the last 40 years.
I wouldn't call any Earle Bruce's team (except the 1979 team) "loaded". Not bashing Earle by any means, but Earle always had a lot of difficulties recruiting. It's pretty well documented.
 
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buckeyebri;2077651; said:
A year ago this looked like a team poised to make a run at a NC. What a difference a few individuals and a year make.

1. I agree with you completely.
2. I would actually take it down to 1 player:
Look at each loss Ohio State had, and tell me Ohio State wouldn't have won the game if Pryor had been the quarterback for those games.
Miami 24-6 - Ok, MAYBE they lose this one. Maybe.
Michigan State 10-7 - If you think Pryor wouldn't have led that offense to 14 points BEFORE HALFTIME you're crazy.
Nebraska 34-27 - Ohio State's offense, with Pryor, can hold onto the ball long enough to hold onto the win, after being up 27-6.
Purdue 23-20 (OT) - Yeah, they beat Ohio State 2 years ago with Pryor. But I think he would single-handedly score 21 points, if needed, and they win in regulation.
Penn State (whatever that score was) - Let's just say that they actually can score in the second half with Pryor, and they can win that game.
Michigan (something like 40-34) - 34 points is pretty good. And it's hard to say that Pryor could do better. But I still think he'd do better.
Florida 24-17 - First, they wouldn't be playing Florida had those changes been made. Second, I think Pryor would lead them on 4 touchdown drives.

So.. yeah.. I think 1 player changed a national championship contender (I think Ohio State would have been picked over Alabama - not that Ohio State could beat either Alabama or LSU) into a 7-loss team.
 
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