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Thad Matta (OSU's All Time Winningest Coach & 3x B1G COY, Butler HC)

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OSU_Buckguy;2115346; said:
you're going to have explain your comment about the recruiting class.
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None on board for 2012. Granted Buford is the only Senior but it's looking like Sully is gone and maybe Thomas.

One recruit thus far for 2013...Loving.

Does that help?
 
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ArmyVet83;2115433; said:
None on board for 2012. Granted Buford is the only Senior but it's looking like Sully is gone and maybe Thomas.

One recruit thus far for 2013...Loving.

Does that help?
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how many available scholarships are there for 2012? you want matta to edge sully and/or thomas out the door?

in regards to 2013, how many top-level recruits that have been on the board are still available.

by now, you'd think that matta would get a pass in terms of recruiting. maybe i'm alone here, but he's done a pretty good job at it.
 
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What ArmyVet said, OSUBuckguy.

My point was not to criticize Coach Matta. He is the best coach that Ohio State has had since Fred Taylor and is one National Championship away from being the best, in my opinion.

My point is that Matta looks flat. He's had health problems. He has said that this team does not practice hard on several occasions but doesn't seem to have an answer for that.

So, my question concerns his health. Is he okay?
 
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Steve19;2115341; said:
Clearly problems with a potential national championship team. Something wrong?
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I give him credit for getting the program to the point where you would mention that he had a "potential national championship team", something his predecessors did not do much of.....dating back a long time.
 
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daddyphatsacs;2115957; said:
I give him credit for getting the program to the point where you would mention that he had a "potential national championship team", something his predecessors did not do much of.....dating back a long time.
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based on what exactly? last years team went 35-3 and didnt even advance past the sweet 16. I love Matta as our coach (and do not want him to leave) but maybe we as Buckeye fans just need to realize the chances of us ever winning a national title in bball (1 title in almost 100 years and that was 42 years ago) might be far fetched? maybe Im just still sour from yesterdays game.....
 
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brodybuck21;2115960; said:
based on what exactly? last years team went 35-3 and didnt even advance past the sweet 16. I love Matta as our coach (and do not want him to leave) but maybe we as Buckeye fans just need to realize the chances of us ever winning a national title in bball (1 title in almost 100 years and that was 42 years ago) might be far fetched? maybe Im just still sour from yesterdays game.....
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I was just thinking about this yesterday.

Expecting Ohio State basketball to win National Championships is not realistic. Getting a better coach than Thad Matta in Columbus would be next to impossible.

In that regard, I look at it in a similar light to how I viewed Minnesota and Glen Mason.

We are at a level now that is about the peak of what we can realistically expect. Let's not get greedy, try to reach the "next level" and do something stupid that sets us back to the stage that we were so fortunate that Matta brought us out of in the first place- which is exactly what Minnesota football did by firing Glen Mason.

I realize that no one is talking about firing Matta at this point... but getting restless over these seasons, considering the long history of Ohio State basketball, seems extremely short sighted.
 
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Buckeye86;2115972; said:
I was just thinking about this yesterday.

Expecting Ohio State basketball to win National Championships is not realistic. Getting a better coach than Thad Matta in Columbus would be next to impossible.

In that regard, I look at it in a similar light to how I viewed Minnesota and Glen Mason.

We are at a level now that is about the peak of what we can realistically expect. Let's not get greedy, try to reach the "next level" and do something stupid that sets us back to the stage that we were so fortunate that Matta brought us out of in the first place- which is exactly what Minnesota football did by firing Glen Mason.

I realize that no one is talking about firing Matta at this point... but getting restless over these seasons, considering the long history of Ohio State basketball, seems extremely short sighted.
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great follow up to what i wrote. Spot on assesment imo.
 
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brodybuck21;2115960; said:
based on what exactly? last years team went 35-3 and didnt even advance past the sweet 16. I love Matta as our coach (and do not want him to leave) but maybe we as Buckeye fans just need to realize the chances of us ever winning a national title in bball (1 title in almost 100 years and that was 42 years ago) might be far fetched? maybe Im just still sour from yesterdays game.....
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Sure, last year's final loss was disappointing, as was yesterday's game, but Matta has also gotten teams to the Elite Eight and the finals. News flash: it's hard to win it all! We've had football teams with "championship potential" fall short too after all, but Matta recruits better than 99% of coaches and has a pretty solid postseason pedigree, there's nothing wrong with remaining optimistic about his teams' potential and still hoping for that one magical tourney run.
 
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BayBuck;2115987; said:
Sure, last year's final loss was disappointing, as was yesterday's game, but Matta has also gotten teams to the Elite Eight and the finals. News flash: it's hard to win it all! We've had football teams with "championship potential" fall short too after all, but Matta recruits better than 99% of coaches and has a pretty solid postseason pedigree, there's nothing wrong with remaining optimistic about his teams' potential and still hoping for that one magical tourney run.
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Expectations. They'll get ya every time.

Matta's problem this year is that people like me expected (unfairly I now think) this team to be as good as last year's team.

Then we throttled Duke. My expectations shot through the roof. It's quite possible that the Duke game was the exception, not the rule...and that the team played lights-out in that game but really isn't the world beater I expected.

So if my expectations were more in line with reality, I'd be really pleased with this team. Now, Matta didn't tell me to expect these things - I told myself....so I can't see how this is Matta's fault that my expectations are out of whack. As you pointed out in your post, we've done an awful lot of winning around here lately, and it just isn't all that easy to make a Final Four run, no matter how good the talent or coaching is. So, I prolly need to check myself and simma a bit. I think I'd enjoy this season a lot more.
 
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Jeesh. You'd think Matta had gone all Bruce Weber on us and sucked out loud for a month straight. :lol:

I am as frustrated as anybody, but this team has lost 6 games, none by more than 11 points, and has been within 5 points in the last 5 minutes of every one of them. (I think...I'm not going back to watch Kansas to confirm the timing on that).

The are nine "major" teams with fewer losses than OSU. I wouldn't trade Matta for the world.

Buckeye86;2115972; said:
In that regard, I look at it in a similar light to how I viewed Minnesota and Glen Mason.

We are at a level now that is about the peak of what we can realistically expect. Let's not get greedy, try to reach the "next level" and do something stupid that sets us back to the stage that we were so fortunate that Matta brought us out of in the first place- which is exactly what Minnesota football did by firing Glen Mason.
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The difference being that Minnesota had a lot more room for improvement. Under Mason, they were occasionally ranked and would win 8-9 games per year? There was still room for growth for them.

I'd argue that OSU has been one of the 10 (maybe even 5) best basketball programs under Matta. How much better can they get?
 
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