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Thad Matta (OSU's All Time Winningest Coach & 3x B1G COY, Butler HC)

I believe Archie Miller will be our coach next year, and I believe Thad understands and has accepted it.

Archie and Thad are great friends BTW, which in some ways makes it a bit easier....
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I believe Archie Miller will be our coach next year, and I believe Thad understands and has accepted it.

Archie and Thad are great friends BTW, which in some ways makes it a bit easier....
I just do not see Matta walking away from a bad season. The only reason he would leave if his health was bad and it is not. I guess we shall see in a few weeks.
 
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I never thought I'd see a Matta- coached team that played with so little passion and effort on defense. It has become worse and worse. The Craft-era seems so long ago now. The first half today was an embarrassment.
I cannot believe that you blame a coach for players lacking passion and effort to win a basketball game. The coach can only say and do so much but it is up to the players to put forth the effort. A coach can yell and scream at guys and if they do not want to put forth the effort there is no way you can blame that on the coach. If you ever played sports, you would know that.
 
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I cannot believe that you blame a coach for players lacking passion and effort to win a basketball game. The coach can only say and do so much but it is up to the players to put forth the effort. A coach can yell and scream at guys and if they do not want to put forth the effort there is no way you can blame that on the coach. If you ever played sports, you would know that.
Agreed but Thad (and/or his staff) recruited all these guys that are low energy/low effort guys and that is on him... Thad is also responsible for letting this culture find a place and grow within the locker room. Sorry but Managers/Coaches own whats going on with their teams even if it isn't 100% their fault.

I love Thad and all he's done for this program but I don't see this team getting any better unless some miracle happens now that Loving/Lyle(likely) are gone...
 
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Agreed but Thad (and/or his staff) recruited all these guys that are low energy/low effort guys and that is on him... Thad is also responsible for letting this culture find a place and grow within the locker room. Sorry but Managers/Coaches own whats going on with their teams even if it isn't 100% their fault.

I love Thad and all he's done for this program but I don't see this team getting any better unless some miracle happens now that Loving/Lyle(likely) are gone...
I just do not think that you can tell how a high school basketball player is going to do in college with regard to energy. Some guys do not put forth much effort but just get away with it because they are just better talent. I also do not think that it is a "culture". One of the basketball trainers from a few years ago told me about Matta and you would be shocked to know the real Thad Matta.
 
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I cannot believe that you blame a coach for players lacking passion and effort to win a basketball game. The coach can only say and do so much but it is up to the players to put forth the effort. A coach can yell and scream at guys and if they do not want to put forth the effort there is no way you can blame that on the coach. If you ever played sports, you would know that.

I've not only played sports, I've also run major listed companies. If you reach the point that you have to yell and scream at your players or employees, then there has been a failure in leadership somewhere along the way.

Passion is about leadership. Leaders breed passion and that is why they get extraordinary results from ordinary people. I hope that the support of the gentleman below, who knows a thing or two about sports, will help you change your thinking.

Urban Meyer in Above the Line

"Where the coach's job comes in is to get great players to play great. That is the responsibility of any leader in any organization… As I often remind our coaches and support staff, we are at Ohio State for one reason, and that is to make the student-athlete's experience as successful as it can be, equipping him with the tools and the work ethic that will enable him to compete and win in every aspect of his life.

Becoming a truly effective leader is a big challenge, and like everything else important in this world it doesn't happen all at once…You train. You work diligently on building the fitness and mindset you need to achieve your goal. It's no different in the leadership realm. You don't just pull in the office one day and decide "I'm going to become a great leader day," and you deftly don't get it done by watching the inspirational video and findings of good quotes to put on walls. You have to work at it and have an unyielding passion to get better every day.

It all begins with Above the Line behavior. It is a Tim Kight teaching point, and it has deeply influenced high I lead and how I think. I was blown away by its force and clarity when he first explained it to me, and, if anything, my appreciation for it has grown.

The performance of a team rises or falls on behavior. When he behavior is intentional, on purpose, and skillful. It is Above the Line. But is easier to be impulsive, on autopilot, and resistant. This is below the line That. Below the line is dangerous because it is comfortable and convenient. It is the path of least resistance. Below the Line takes little effort or skill, and the best it can produce is "just OK." Eventually it produces failure.

The simple truth is the getting and staying Above the Line is the foundation of success in anything you do – work, school, football, and life. The harder truth is that getting and staying Above the Line is not easy. It must be taught and developed. Every day is a battle for whether we choose to live Above the Line or Below the Line.
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I just do not think that you can tell how a high school basketball player is going to do in college with regard to energy. Some guys do not put forth much effort but just get away with it because they are just better talent. I also do not think that it is a "culture". One of the basketball trainers from a few years ago told me about Matta and you would be shocked to know the real Thad Matta.
So, you get a third party story and we're supposed to believe that you have a unique insight. How do you know that AuTX Buckeye and Thad Matta are not close friends? How do you know that they do not chat weekly? Seriously, lighten up, this isn't like you at all and you are way offsides in these comments.
 
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I just do not see Matta walking away from a bad season. The only reason he would leave if his health was bad and it is not. I guess we shall see in a few weeks.

Why do some insist on referring to "a bad season", as if the Bucks were rolling into 2016? If it was just "a bad season" I don't imagine anyone, outside of a few idiots who want to fire the coach after every loss, would be questioning whether Thad should be retained after this season. It's not "a bad season", but rather a downward spiral over several years culminated by 30 losses the last two seasons.

Will I be surprised if he's still our coach next season? No. Will I be confident when the games start? No. The trust that he'll put together a good squad is gone now.
 
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