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kn1f3party
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Taosman;1738205; said:
When I was actively a Jehovah's Witness, and to a lesser extent since, it became very obvious that many people are oblivious to what they really believe and practice. Essentially all disciplines of Christianity and other monotheistic faiths originating in southwest Asia are fundamentally similar. All of them have rewritten or reinterpreted, throughout the years, the same fundamental premise. I think the reason Jehovah's Witnesses, the Amish, Mormons, and other fundamental forms of Christianity have a social stigma is because they are at their very root social outsiders. They are our versions of fundamentalists, with extreme beliefs. Making things even more convoluted you have sects within those faiths that take it even further. Jehovah's Witnesses do not bother me. I do, however, have a problem with the Amish.
My problem with the Amish is the hypocrisy of sowing their wild oats. It is often marveled that virtually none of them defect after this period but if you really stop and think about the way these people live from birth on up you realize it would be virtually impossible to assimilate them in to society. It would be like taking the hillbilly from Appalachia and putting him in New York City. I actually pity the children. They go out and drink Mountain Dew and roller blade, take their buggy to McDonald's, and just generally don't really think they're missing out on much because the world that surrounds them is alien and isolating. Maybe they have it right, but I'm a firm believer that you should give people a choice in their ideology and in the Amish culture there is no choice. It is made for you. You are essentially brainwashed in to that choice after you are born.
muffler dragon;1738207; said:What can I say?
It happens to the best of us. Thankfully there is a pill for it.
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Taosman
Your Cousin In New Mexxico
I have a problem with chihuahuas! They're too small for me to get my hands on when they're trying to nip me and they're fuggin ugly! Maybe someone could add them to Chipotle's menu and they could be raised on farms in Iowa but not Arizona because they have a prejudice against all things Mexican there.
Chipotle's Chihuahua Marinade
1 (2 ounce) package dried ancho chiles
1 teaspoon black pepper
2 teaspoons cumin powder
2 tablespoons fresh oregano, chopped
6 cloves garlic1/2 red onion, quartered
1/4 cup vegetable oil
4 Small Steaks (6 ounces each)
Chipotle's Chihuahua Marinade
1 (2 ounce) package dried ancho chiles
1 teaspoon black pepper
2 teaspoons cumin powder
2 tablespoons fresh oregano, chopped
6 cloves garlic1/2 red onion, quartered
1/4 cup vegetable oil
4 Small Steaks (6 ounces each)
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DubCoffman62
Lazy Slob
When I lived in Mexico City I stdied with the JW's for about 2 1/2 years. The studied the red book, the blue book, went to watchtower study , the meeting to make disciples and ministry school and I have to say it was a lot of fun. They were really nice people, no pretense or self righteousness and they were all very dedicated and truly believed in everything. We'd always have get togethers after the Sunday meeting, we'd play various sports, mostly soccer, eat and have a great time and there was never any booze, nobody fought, it was great. There were a lot of nice senoritas too 
In the end though I just couldn't buy what they were selling and I left. Nice people, a really cool organization but completely nuts :)
In the end though I just couldn't buy what they were selling and I left. Nice people, a really cool organization but completely nuts :)
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DubCoffman62;1738887; said:When I lived in Mexico City I stdied with the JW's for about 2 1/2 years. The studied the red book, the blue book, went to watchtower study , the meeting to make disciples and ministry school and I have to say it was a lot of fun. They were really nice people, no pretense or self righteousness and they were all very dedicated and truly believed in everything. We'd always have get togethers after the Sunday meeting, we'd play various sports, mostly soccer, eat and have a great time and there was never any booze, nobody fought, it was great. There were a lot of nice senoritas too
In the end though I just couldn't buy what they were selling and I left. Nice people, a really cool organization but completely nuts :)
While not even close to such exposure, I agree that I have found them for the most part to be really nice people. There is a JW who stops by my house about every 2 months, usually with a different person with him each time (he's an older guy and I get the impression he is mentoring new JW evangelists). He seems fascinated with my Messianic perspectives and we often end up having hour long discussions about our religious views. The guy has always been nice and is easy going, even when we are disputing important topics for us, like the nature of G-d, the implications of salvation, and eschatology.
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DubCoffman62
Lazy Slob
That's how they are, they aren't there to argue with you, they're there to discuss Jehova and any other religious views. They're very patient and will never push. It's all about planting the seed and hoping it grows. I do have an enormous respect for them. Even when I stopped going to meeting and studying they still were very friendly with me. I really miss some of my old friends sometimes.buckeyegrad;1738926; said:
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OhioState001
Tressel Loyalist
The one disturbing thing I learned when talking to my friend is that he thinks Christians are forced to give donations in church. He seemed to take great pride in the fact that JW are not forced into giving money. It was disturbing to learn that he was taught lies about other religions, but from what I understand he is not allowed to read from another religions works to learn more about it. I am now afraid that he thinks I am Satan for trying to teach him about other religions.
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muffler dragon
Bien. Bien chiludo.
OhioState001;1738937; said:
While not all of Christendom "forces" donations to the individual churches, there are a great many that "urge strongly" that one gives ten percent of their earnings (net normally, but sometimes gross) along with being an active participant in every "building fund" that comes down the pike.
I do find it duplicitous that this Witness would consider this to be odd as I happen to remember funding of Assembly Halls being rather similar. I could be quite wrong though.
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