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Talking Religion...

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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;1419138; said:
I originally began the habit out of respect for another poster on this board. After doing a little research on the reasoning, I adopted the practice. While I must confess, my idea about G-d probably doesn't care if I type out "God" or not... it helps me differentiate "who" I'm talking about...if I say "G-d" I'm talking about the creator... or... the "real" G-d... (if there is such a thing).. if I say "God" or "god" I'm usually talking about man's concept of G-d... and not the actual entity itself. (If that makes sense)
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G-d you're weird.
 
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Jake;1419127; said:
Who wouldn't want to live forever, surrounded by loved ones, in paradise? I know I would.....
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Not me. Living forever with family and friends in "paradise" sounds like a living hell to me. I can't stand being with even my closest friends and family for more than a few hours at a time (and with my wife for longer than that - but we still need some time apart from each other now and then). And what would you do with your time? I couldn't do anything I get pleasure out of here on earth (eating, drinking, sex, watching OSU football, etc.). And what would you talk about or do after a few million years? By then you would have met everyone who ever existed and talked about every conceivable topic. Eternity is a very, very, very long time.

Personally I like the idea of finality - that I will die and that is the end for me. It makes every moment I'm alive that much more enjoyable.
 
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Brewtus;1420150; said:
Not me. Living forever with family and friends in "paradise" sounds like a living hell to me. I can't stand being with even my closest friends and family for more than a few hours at a time (and with my wife for longer than that - but we still need some time apart from each other now and then). And what would you do with your time? I couldn't do anything I get pleasure out of here on earth (eating, drinking, sex, watching OSU football, etc.). And what would you talk about or do after a few million years? By then you would have met everyone who ever existed and talked about every conceivable topic. Eternity is a very, very, very long time.

Personally I like the idea of finality - that I will die and that is the end for me. It makes every moment I'm alive that much more enjoyable.
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What if it so happens that you're able to be re-incarnated? What if it so happens that your choices for re-incarnation don't just include this earth?

Admittedly "fanciful" but was wondering if re-incarnation being a reality would change your answer.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;1420161; said:
What if it so happens that you're able to be re-incarnated? What if it so happens that your choices for re-incarnation don't just include this earth?

Admittedly "fanciful" but was wondering if re-incarnation being a reality would change your answer.
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I wouldn't want to take my chances with re-incarnation either. Not to sound arrogant, but I feel that I've already lived a more privileged and fulfilled life than 99.9% of the people who have ever been born on this planet and I wouldn't want to take my chances of being born in a Calcutta slum or to an Amish family or Michigan alums in Ann Arbor :). As for other worlds, maybe that would be an interesting experience but if I had no memory of this planet to reflect on, I'd miss out on gaining any universal insights.
 
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Brewtus;1420178; said:
I wouldn't want to take my chances with re-incarnation either. Not to sound arrogant, but I feel that I've already lived a more privileged and fulfilled life than 99.9% of the people who have ever been born on this planet and I wouldn't want to take my chances of being born in a Calcutta slum or to an Amish family or Michigan alums in Ann Arbor :). As for other worlds, maybe that would be an interesting experience but if I had no memory of this planet to reflect on, I'd miss out on gaining any universal insights.
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What if re-incarnation wasn't a "roll of the dice" per se. This begs the question as to why anyone would "choose" to be born and then immediately die (ie childbirth) as it would seemingly serve no purpose metaphysically, or why one would choose to be born in a Calcutta slum, as you say. But, setting aside those particulars, what I'm driving at is more along these lines:

Suppose our metaphysical existence - or the answer to the questin "Why are we here?" - is to learn evey thing we can learn. To become as "all knowing" (For our purposes (and my intent), we can say "G-dlike") as we possibly can.

Wouldn't such an existence be in accord with the more "scientific" approach to this reality? That is to say, aren't we here, ultimately, to live and learn? Or, is the answer to "Why are we here" simply this: No reason.

If the answer is "no reason" then why bother doing anyting at all?

I'm sorry the juxtiposition of these two ideas is so haphazard... I hope you can see where I'm going here a little bit.
 
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t_BuckeyeScott;1420221; said:
One possible reason, of which I don't subscribe too, because it is pleasurable.
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I've given this response some consideration before replying.... If that is the case, "because it's pleasurable" I'm hard pressed to make any counter argument. Such a philosophy may lead to social disorganization (it might not) but at the end of the day, I fail to see a "better" reason given the parameters of the question.
 
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I just hate it when religious people say really stupid things as if they were begging for an intellectual ass-whooping. Here, Stanley Fish in the NY Times manages to bungle both the Bible and economics 101:

Faith and Deficits - Stanley Fish Blog - NYTimes.com

This economy, in which funds depleted are endlessly replenished, is underwritten by a power so great and beneficent that it turns failures into treasures. Some economists identify that power as the market and ask us to have faith in it. God might be a better candidate.
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JimsSweaterVest;1420844; said:
I love this hymn! (Even though it is Protestant!)
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Heretics Rock! (although this one sound like something Luther wrote :p)

I love this one too...I can't find a gospel choir rocking this out, but it is amazing more up tempo with a full choir
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmDOYrINr9E"]YouTube - Wintley Phipps - God's Gonna Trouble the Water[/ame]
 
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