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Super Bowl XLIII: Steelers(-6.5) vs. Cardinals

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SanTOEnio Holmes...

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BB73;1397025; said:
It was great to have a Super Bowl that exciting for the second straight year. A couple of thoughts.

On Big Ben's overturned TD - I never heard anything about his O-lineman pulling him into the end zone. It was blatant, and should have been a 10-yard "helping the runner" penalty. But they kicked a FG anyway, so it didn't matter.

On Harriison's runback - ESPN showed this morning that Larry Fitzgerald was trailing the play outside the sideline before he caught Harrison and tackled him on the goal line. While chasing, he bumped into Antrel Rolle, who was standing too close to the sideline during the play. It slowed Fitzgerald down noticeably - he definitely would have made the tackle a few yards earlier it he hadn't been obstructed by a teammate who was just watching on the sideline. Pittsburgh would have had 1 or 2 seconds left, though, and kicked a FG instead of a TD. But that 4 point difference would have changed what happned in the second half.

On the Holmes TD. There was discussion about whether the right foot was down. It it hadn't have been, the refs could have ruled that he would have gotten that foot down if he hadn't been shoved out of bounds. I didn't see or hear that mentioned at all. Interestingly, if the replay would have shown that the foot wasn't down, it would have changed the ruling to incomplete. (edit - I'm wrong here, there's no forceout rule starting this season - thanks, exhawg)

The fact that the forceout wasn't called initially (because they didn't have to make that call since the call was both feet down), and that forceouts or 'non-reviewable' plays, could have made that a non-TD due to the silly restrictions within the replay systems rules. That would have gone over well in Pittsburgh if they ended up losing the game due to that. :wink2:

On the Warner fumble in the last 10 seconds. There was a statement from a league official saying the the replay official determined that it was in fact a fumble. That play was certainly worth reviewing - if it had been an incomplete pass Arizona would have had the ball around the 30-yard line with 5 seconds left. But apparently that determination was made without an official review involving the referee going under the hood on the sideline.
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They got rid of the force out rule this year so unless you get your foot down it doesn't matter. The defense can use the sidelines/endlines as an extra defender now.

Beyond that Holmes did use the football as a prop in his celebration which by rule should have been an automatic 15 yard penalty that should have been assessed on the kickoff
 
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buckeyefool;1397679; said:
Beyond that Holmes did use the football as a prop in his celebration which by rule should have been an automatic 15 yard penalty that should have been assessed on the kickoff
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i saw that too. the officials really screwed up the last minute of that game IMO.
 
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Silent Nature;1396939; said:
What a dick move, but Pittsburgh is well known for this...being unclassy.
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Here's a tip: supporting your allegation with some examples might actually make your post look intelligent and like something other than sour grapes.

Silent Nature;1396939; said:
The Steelers needs to suck up their egos and whatnot. That move by Harrison is exactly why I cannot stand them. They set bad examples for the youth.
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One question I have is whether Harrison offered any explanation for his actions. I watch a lot of Steelers' games, and I have never seen him do anything like this. To the extent that it seems out of character for him, I wonder if the video, which cuts in only right before he strikes the other player, only caught Harrison's response to something the Cardinals player did. Anyone hear anything about this?
 
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fourteenandoh;1397643; said:
i've got a question about warner's 'fumble' at the end of the game. if it was in fact a fumble, why was it a perfect spiral? it should have been a wobler, but it wasn't.
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This is simply another reason why Warner belongs in the hall of fame.

Even his fumbles have perfect form :biggrin:
 
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BB73;1397025; said:
On Harriison's runback - ESPN showed this morning that Larry Fitzgerald was trailing the play outside the sideline before he caught Harrison and tackled him on the goal line. While chasing, he bumped into Antrel Rolle, who was standing too close to the sideline during the play. It slowed Fitzgerald down noticeably - he definitely would have made the tackle a few yards earlier it he hadn't been obstructed by a teammate who was just watching on the sideline. Pittsburgh would have had 1 or 2 seconds left, though, and kicked a FG instead of a TD. But that 4 point difference would have changed what happned in the second half.
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Where the hell was Rolle going and what did he think he was going to do when he got there? Maybe he just wanted to be the first in the locker room for halftime? :slappy:

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Great thread here with a ton of pics which are still being added

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fourteenandoh;1397643; said:
i've got a question about warner's 'fumble' at the end of the game. if it was in fact a fumble, why was it a perfect spiral? it should have been a wobler, but it wasn't.
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I was listening to ESPN radio the other day(Because 1460 is now on 97.1, I'm done now.) and Tirico said he talked to an official and the play was in fact reviewed and they determined it was a fumble. Tirico said he thought the right call was made but questioned why play wasn't stopped and the guy told him they determined quickly it was a fumble...for what it's worth.
 
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