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Game Thread Sugar Bowl: tOSU vs Arkansas, Tue, Jan 4th, 8:30 ET ESPN

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BB73;1850094; said:
It was a very brainless play on his part. It was a blocked punt well behind the line of scrimmage - the only way Arkansas doesn't end up with the ball is if tOSU picks it up and gains a first down, or if Arkansas gains full possession of the ball and then fumbles it back. If he muffs it, it's still Arkansas ball no matter who falls on it in a scramble. And he had 4 teammates behind him closer to the ball than any Buckeye. He definitely should have taken the time to try to pick the ball up and score - I'm quite relieved he wasn't composed enough to realize that at the time.

I agree with "brainless" in the sense that he probably just switched off, relied on instinct and what he had likely been drilled to do since he started playing football. I can't imagine his thought process (or that of many other players) in that situation contains the nuance of your analysis of the situation. His thought process is probably more like FUMBLE = FALL ON IT. It's the same kind of thought process/reaction that led to the OL catching the tipped pass for a safety on his own team in the Stanford game.

It's easy to pick on this play in hindsight, but there are countless fumbles that I watch where I'm begging the player that I'm rooting for to just fall on the damn thing. Considering how much trouble Arkansas had securing a loose ball that ended up resulting in seven points for the Buckeyes earlier in the game, I don't think it was a bad play to take the sure thing and put the ball (and the game) in the hands of their best player.
 
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Bucknut24;1849993; said:
i was just kidding around...i believe you said you weren't gonna post til the game was over but you did, you were gonna be the jinx..

was meant to be in good fun, that's all

For once I wasn't following BP during the whole bowl game...

On the other hand, I might have saved myself from being banned during the end of the 3rd, most of the 4th and after a punt block :biggrin:
 
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Coqui;1850032; said:
That close to a 1st down, I don't blame him for making sure Ohio State didn't get the ball back. If his hands failed him and he kicked the ball around instead, the chance an Ohio State player gets it increases dramatically.

That close of a game with that little time left, on a fumble, you drop on it and secure it. He played smartly. Sure it but them in the ass in the long run, but still the smart thing to do.

Maybe he was considering what happened on the 1st score of the game...
 
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He wasn't "thinking" anything.

There's a saying in coaching - You will not rise to the occasion. You will default to your level of training.

He did what he was trained to do. That may be a coaching blunder in the circumstance - they should have reminded all players - if we block this kick, scoop it and go. Maybe they did.. I can't say... but, I seriously doubt if the lad had one conscious thought at that moment.
 
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I am still wondering how that was called a safety. Haven't heard anyone talking about it or heard what interpretation of the rule they used to call that a safety.
if the player had been driven back into the endzone by a yard or less, then broke free on his own, I believe the rule about disengaging takes place and in that case the call would have been correct. the fact that Boom got out to the 2 and was then pushed back 3 yards into the endzone should have stopped forward progress at some point......preferably where the damn ref on the far sideline came walking out with his arm up signifying that's where we should have had the ball.
 
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Bleed S & G;1850322; said:
The side judge marked the ball on the 3 that play before they called a saftey.

BuckeyeNation27;1850324; said:
if the player had been driven back into the endzone by a yard or less, then broke free on his own, I believe the rule about disengaging takes place and in that case the call would have been correct. the fact that Boom got out to the 2 and was then pushed back 3 yards into the endzone should have stopped forward progress at some point......preferably where the damn ref on the far sideline came walking out with his arm up signifying that's where we should have had the ball.


Yeah, I don't get this. "Disengaged" is not what I saw. He got stood up and help came to push him backwards. Until someone comes up with a good explanation, that was a bullshit call that an average peewee ref would have gotten right.
 
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Saw31;1850339; said:
Yeah, I don't get this. "Disengaged" is not what I saw. He got stood up and help came to push him backwards. Until someone comes up with a good explanation, that was a bull[Mark May] call that an average peewee ref would have gotten right.

I'm just pleased that while it had an impact, it didn't not impact the outcome. :whew:
 
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