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Sloopy45
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Tibbs: "Ugh...the whole thing with Yoda being pals with Chewbacca...ugh. The ridiculous amount of coincidences of people knowing one another in the trilogy is terrible. I mean, why couldn't Yoda just know some random wookie...heck, it would give you an excuse for another action figure. Just fucking stupid."
Lucas put Chewbacca in this movie for one reason: he hasn't created a single character in these Prequels that the general public likes. So, in that case, lets make a Wookie's life span 200 years & put Chewie in there, so we can put him on cereal boxes, toys, & Pepsi cans.
You're 100% right that the Kashykk scene could've held water without Chewbacca. In fact, I thought it was great that we finally got to go there & see what the Planet is like (Kashykk was originally intended to be the scene of the final battle in Return of the Jedi, but Lucas chose to use Ewoks instead of Wookies).
Have you noticed that there's not a single new character on any of the promos for this movie? No Anakin, no young Obi-Wan, etc. Its all the old recycled characters. Watch the Chewbacca Cingular commercial: there's Chewie, Vader, the Droids, Yoda, & STORM Troopers (not CLONE Troopers) in the spot.
I could hear the meeting now with the Pepsi/Cingular people & Lucas: we'll take all the old characters, but I don't want fucking Jar-Jar's face anywhere near our product.
"I figured he'd make a connection in Episode III but he failed there as well."
We didn't even get a close up of Tarkin in this movie. Its a far away shot with a smudged lens of a guy made up to look like Tarkin.
Lucas put Chewbacca in this movie for one reason: he hasn't created a single character in these Prequels that the general public likes. So, in that case, lets make a Wookie's life span 200 years & put Chewie in there, so we can put him on cereal boxes, toys, & Pepsi cans.
You're 100% right that the Kashykk scene could've held water without Chewbacca. In fact, I thought it was great that we finally got to go there & see what the Planet is like (Kashykk was originally intended to be the scene of the final battle in Return of the Jedi, but Lucas chose to use Ewoks instead of Wookies).
Have you noticed that there's not a single new character on any of the promos for this movie? No Anakin, no young Obi-Wan, etc. Its all the old recycled characters. Watch the Chewbacca Cingular commercial: there's Chewie, Vader, the Droids, Yoda, & STORM Troopers (not CLONE Troopers) in the spot.
I could hear the meeting now with the Pepsi/Cingular people & Lucas: we'll take all the old characters, but I don't want fucking Jar-Jar's face anywhere near our product.
"I figured he'd make a connection in Episode III but he failed there as well."
We didn't even get a close up of Tarkin in this movie. Its a far away shot with a smudged lens of a guy made up to look like Tarkin.
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Sloopy45
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Tibbs: "Did Vader try to track down his kid Luke at all? "Yeah, Obi-Wan great idea! Let's hide Luke with his Uncle....Darth will never think to look for him there!"
He didn't know that he had a son. Remember, he thought Padme was dead & didn't know she gave birth.
I do, however think its stupid to give him to Uncle Owen. First off, he and Beru went from teenagers to 60 year olds in the span of 20 years. Secondly, you don't think Anakin would visit his mother's grave or something at some point in all that time?
He didn't know that he had a son. Remember, he thought Padme was dead & didn't know she gave birth.
I do, however think its stupid to give him to Uncle Owen. First off, he and Beru went from teenagers to 60 year olds in the span of 20 years. Secondly, you don't think Anakin would visit his mother's grave or something at some point in all that time?
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tibor75
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I don't buy it Sloopy45. You'd think Vader would be able to "search his feelings" and know if he had a fucking son alive in the universe.
How did Palpatine know that Padme was dead? Unless it had already reached the intergalactic news wire by then. I assumed it was through the force. Of course, then he should have also known that kids were born and he would try to take them to have successors.
Common sense would have been to let Obi Wan take Luke with him so he could start training him at a young age (considering that the Jedi council complained Anakin was too old to start training) instead of waiting for him to be old enough to drink before working out a plan. And when was Obi Wan going to show up and start training Luke anyway? He just happened to run into him in
Star Wars.
How did Palpatine know that Padme was dead? Unless it had already reached the intergalactic news wire by then. I assumed it was through the force. Of course, then he should have also known that kids were born and he would try to take them to have successors.
Common sense would have been to let Obi Wan take Luke with him so he could start training him at a young age (considering that the Jedi council complained Anakin was too old to start training) instead of waiting for him to be old enough to drink before working out a plan. And when was Obi Wan going to show up and start training Luke anyway? He just happened to run into him in
Star Wars.
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Sloopy45
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Tibbs: "Common sense would have been to let Obi Wan take Luke with him so he could start training him at a young age (considering that the Jedi council complained Anakin was too old to start training) instead of waiting for him to be old enough to drink before working out a plan."
Hey, no disagreement here. You're preaching to the choir. This thread is so long because of all my problems with the inconsistencies & shitty scripts in these movies.
In these movies, Anakin is trained from age 10 to 23, and it ain't good enough. On the other hand, Luke goes to Dagobah for a week, stands on his head, levitates some rocks, & he's all set to confront Vader and become a Jedi.
Hey, no disagreement here. You're preaching to the choir. This thread is so long because of all my problems with the inconsistencies & shitty scripts in these movies.
In these movies, Anakin is trained from age 10 to 23, and it ain't good enough. On the other hand, Luke goes to Dagobah for a week, stands on his head, levitates some rocks, & he's all set to confront Vader and become a Jedi.
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buckzip
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They emphasized that she died, along with the babies. They showed her pregnant belly during the funeral.
Did anyone else catch where in episode IV, Obi Wan says, I haven't heard the name Obi-wan since before you were born, to Luke?
Well, now we all know that is a Lucas f-up.
Did anyone else catch where in episode IV, Obi Wan says, I haven't heard the name Obi-wan since before you were born, to Luke?
Well, now we all know that is a Lucas f-up.
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Sloopy45
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t-bone: "I loved the reason for Padme's death. "She has lost the will to live". Lucas really mailed that one in."
Yeah, that was a classic. Amazingly, she lost the will to live thinking that Anakin was alive & still had good in him. Make any sense to you??
buckzip: "Did anyone else catch where in episode IV, Obi Wan says, I haven't heard the name Obi-wan since before you were born, to Luke?"
Yes. What about these classics:
Darth to Luke (after Luke says there is still good in him): "Obi-Wan once thought as you do .."
Oh yeah? At what point in 'Sith' did Obi-Wan think this?
Obi-Wan: "Your father wanted you to have this, when you were old enough."
When did he want this?
I think Lucas ate alphabet soup & shit out this script.
Yeah, that was a classic. Amazingly, she lost the will to live thinking that Anakin was alive & still had good in him. Make any sense to you??
buckzip: "Did anyone else catch where in episode IV, Obi Wan says, I haven't heard the name Obi-wan since before you were born, to Luke?"
Yes. What about these classics:
Darth to Luke (after Luke says there is still good in him): "Obi-Wan once thought as you do .."
Oh yeah? At what point in 'Sith' did Obi-Wan think this?
Obi-Wan: "Your father wanted you to have this, when you were old enough."
When did he want this?
I think Lucas ate alphabet soup & shit out this script.
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Yes Vader never said this, and yes he probally never wanted it, but this is Obi-Wan putting his own spin on things.Sloopy45 said:
What is he going to say to Luke,
Well this is your fathers light saber. I kept it when I cut off his arms and legs and left Him for dead. It turns out that he is Darth Vader, and you are the new chosen one. Come join Me and defeat your father again
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Sloopy45
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Tibbs: "You'd think the emperor would have enough pull to get an autopsy done on Padme...considering he rules the galaxy and all."
You'd also think that he would have an all out search conducted for the two remaining living Jedi. The whole story only works if the Emperor believes Yoda to be dead. Too bad Lucas didn't figure this out.
buckeyefool: "It turns out that he is Darth Vader, and you are the new chosen one."
What does this Chosen One/Balance thing mean? Does 'bring balance to the Force' mean killing all of the Jedi down to two? i.e. 2 Jedi & 2 Sith = 'Balanced?' Or does it mean ending the Sith in the end?
You'd also think that he would have an all out search conducted for the two remaining living Jedi. The whole story only works if the Emperor believes Yoda to be dead. Too bad Lucas didn't figure this out.
buckeyefool: "It turns out that he is Darth Vader, and you are the new chosen one."
What does this Chosen One/Balance thing mean? Does 'bring balance to the Force' mean killing all of the Jedi down to two? i.e. 2 Jedi & 2 Sith = 'Balanced?' Or does it mean ending the Sith in the end?
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buckzip
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I thought LeBron James, and KWII were the chosen ones. Lucas needs to get his crap together.
I also noticed the part about the light saber. Why is it that Yoda, and Obiwan, and Anakin come back as spirits that talk to Luke, but none of the other Jedi do?
Windu was the toughest Jedi. He would have beaten the emporer if Anakin didn't interfere. Even Yoda couldn't beat the emporer.
How can a woman lose her desire to live when she just gave birth to twins?
Did she not care about her new babies? That bitch...
I also noticed the part about the light saber. Why is it that Yoda, and Obiwan, and Anakin come back as spirits that talk to Luke, but none of the other Jedi do?
Windu was the toughest Jedi. He would have beaten the emporer if Anakin didn't interfere. Even Yoda couldn't beat the emporer.
How can a woman lose her desire to live when she just gave birth to twins?
Did she not care about her new babies? That bitch...
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