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I simply had a lot of free time on my hands before I was married. I was single for a long time and was trying to live a moral life, hence I had all the time in the world to read what I wanted.
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I simply had a lot of free time on my hands before I was married. I was single for a long time and was trying to live a moral life, hence I had all the time in the world to read what I wanted.
BrutusMaximus
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Cant blame you there I guess. I am in that part of life right now myself, cept I just spend all my time fishing, and watching the Sopranos 
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Sloopy45
Pimp Minister Sinister
LRABuck: "A Jedi is resourceful. Grievous was part organic. A blaster lay nearby. What is the most efficient way to dispose of an organic being when you are dangling from a Reeeeeeeally high ledge?"
My point is that it should never even come to that. "Hello, General Grievious? I'm Obi-Wan Kenobi. Soon my name will be Ben. Boom, you're dead." No laser blasts, no saber fights no nothing .. what could GG do to stop that?
"Personally, I like the change. I know a TON of people were up in arms over it. But it does a great job of tying the two trilogies together. What do you think?"
I thought it was terrible. First off, I don't like Lucas messing with my old movies to fit his crappy new ones. Secondly, it makes no sense: Yoda tells Kenobi at the end of 'Sith' that Qui-Gon has learned the secret of immortality & he will teach it to him. If that's the case, then how does Vader know how to do this?? It used to be understood that every Jedi can appear in the afterlife: now, its a big secret that you must learn. Thirdly, how come we get an old Obi-Wan, old Yoda, and a young Anakin? Anakin changed back to Anakin at the end of 'Jedi'. Sebastian Shaw should appear, not Hayden Christiansen. And fourth, if Qui-Gon does indeed know the secret, how come his body doesn't disappear when Darth Maul whacks him? Obi-Wan and Yoda disappeared.
And fifth, the biggest inconsistency (in my mind) is that the 'afterlife' thing to me, is something I assumed all Jedi could do, but a Sith couldn't. It was the price of turning to the Dark Side. That's why Darth was puzzled when Obi-Wan disappeared (stomping his cloak, etc.), and this quote: "You can't win, Darth. If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine." I can buy that Anakin was awarded afterlife when he turned back, I can't but it if its something that Qui-Gon teaches. How did Darth/Anakin learn how to do this?? Did he & Qui-Gon talk this over a beer and a smoke? Makes no sense to me.
buckeyegrad: "I didn't like the idea of the midichlorians at all and thought it diminished the overall view of the Force."
I thought the whole scene where Qui-Gon takes a blood sample from Anakin was incredibly stupid.
My point is that it should never even come to that. "Hello, General Grievious? I'm Obi-Wan Kenobi. Soon my name will be Ben. Boom, you're dead." No laser blasts, no saber fights no nothing .. what could GG do to stop that?
"Personally, I like the change. I know a TON of people were up in arms over it. But it does a great job of tying the two trilogies together. What do you think?"
I thought it was terrible. First off, I don't like Lucas messing with my old movies to fit his crappy new ones. Secondly, it makes no sense: Yoda tells Kenobi at the end of 'Sith' that Qui-Gon has learned the secret of immortality & he will teach it to him. If that's the case, then how does Vader know how to do this?? It used to be understood that every Jedi can appear in the afterlife: now, its a big secret that you must learn. Thirdly, how come we get an old Obi-Wan, old Yoda, and a young Anakin? Anakin changed back to Anakin at the end of 'Jedi'. Sebastian Shaw should appear, not Hayden Christiansen. And fourth, if Qui-Gon does indeed know the secret, how come his body doesn't disappear when Darth Maul whacks him? Obi-Wan and Yoda disappeared.
And fifth, the biggest inconsistency (in my mind) is that the 'afterlife' thing to me, is something I assumed all Jedi could do, but a Sith couldn't. It was the price of turning to the Dark Side. That's why Darth was puzzled when Obi-Wan disappeared (stomping his cloak, etc.), and this quote: "You can't win, Darth. If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine." I can buy that Anakin was awarded afterlife when he turned back, I can't but it if its something that Qui-Gon teaches. How did Darth/Anakin learn how to do this?? Did he & Qui-Gon talk this over a beer and a smoke? Makes no sense to me.
buckeyegrad: "I didn't like the idea of the midichlorians at all and thought it diminished the overall view of the Force."
I thought the whole scene where Qui-Gon takes a blood sample from Anakin was incredibly stupid.
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LRABuck
Proud to be a Buckeye
I'm not totally sure what you mean, but I'm open to discussing it. I'll PM you to continue the discussion so we won't clog up the forum, ok?Sloopy45 said:
Did you (or anyone) notice that the "sample-taker/comlink" was an upside down Schick razor painted Silver with some pushpin-like things stuck in it? It's one of those razors with the 1-2" wide rounded handle and the rubber grip. Check it out next time you see it.Sloopy45 said:
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Sloopy45
Pimp Minister Sinister
bb73: "Sloop, apparently George has a different opinion regarding whose movies they are."
I'll make a trade with Lucas, my man: he can have THX-1138, the Prequels, & Howard the Duck, and I'll take Star Wars, Empire, & Jedi. Its a fair enough trade: I give him 5 movies and he's only giving me three.
I'll make a trade with Lucas, my man: he can have THX-1138, the Prequels, & Howard the Duck, and I'll take Star Wars, Empire, & Jedi. Its a fair enough trade: I give him 5 movies and he's only giving me three.
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Oricus
Forza AC Milan
Do not know if this was ever covered but in response to George Lucas' mockery of Jewish people in his character Watto...Mr. Lucas is Jewish...So that cannot be inferred.
I think all the opinions are well noted about Mr. Lucas' creation however I think some of you are just completely missing some sentiment about the saga.
This is not some spectacular saga created to wow the critics as far as the academy awards are concerned. Not at all, now the first release did wow the critics for its revolutionizing of how we perceive movies of today. It was a watershed that marked a new wave of science fiction and technology. It's a rare breed of a space opera that with it's cheesy plot became a national/global phenomenon and will last throughout the test of time. But this was never Lucas' dream, his dream was just to have a loosely based story off of Flash Gordan series. Just these little Saturday showings at the local theatres showing these cheesy adventure stories.
I think some of us are a little critical of what Mr. Lucas' story and may I reiterate Mr. Lucas' story tried to accomplish. I will admit the prequels were not that high quality of movies, but that is not the point. And it was not the point for Lucas to create such a masterpiece that the original trilogy became. It became this because of intrigued individuals who wondered "What the hell is this?" and they fell in love with what Mr. Lucas' idea was.
To think Mr. Lucas owes us anything is preposterous and in my opinion immature. And to trash Mr. Lucas because people may think he let them down is also in my opinion immature. People may disagree with How Mr. Lucas went about HIS story but overwhelming flack he receives for something he developed and issued to this world is incredible and utterly stupid.
He ruined Stars Wars for me, that's a common phrase I've heard many times. Well he didn't ruin it for me because through all the cheesy lines, horrible dialouge, and silly characters that make up Mr. Lucas' galaxy still remains a humble sentiment and enjoyable entertainment. Because Star Wars is nothing more than a cheesy science fiction story created only to entertain, and however way you look at it in it's inherent core Stars Wars is just that, a cheesy science fiction story that entertains us.
It's fun, it's Star Wars, it wasn't created to be criticized for what it is. I think people lose a little bit of reality sometimes and perhaps should take a more apprehensive approach towards science fiction.
I think the biggest problem the New Trilogy had in conflict with the old trilogy is the fact that it had to create new storyline, and I just think sometimes people have a hard time coping with change. And that is the keyword, Change, are you willing to change or are you too stubborn. Life lessons can be learned from star wars and change is one of them. But in its essence Star wars is made to entertain. You may have not been entertained but I do not think Lucas' detracted too much from his original idea of creating a story that people would enjoy.
I think all the opinions are well noted about Mr. Lucas' creation however I think some of you are just completely missing some sentiment about the saga.
This is not some spectacular saga created to wow the critics as far as the academy awards are concerned. Not at all, now the first release did wow the critics for its revolutionizing of how we perceive movies of today. It was a watershed that marked a new wave of science fiction and technology. It's a rare breed of a space opera that with it's cheesy plot became a national/global phenomenon and will last throughout the test of time. But this was never Lucas' dream, his dream was just to have a loosely based story off of Flash Gordan series. Just these little Saturday showings at the local theatres showing these cheesy adventure stories.
I think some of us are a little critical of what Mr. Lucas' story and may I reiterate Mr. Lucas' story tried to accomplish. I will admit the prequels were not that high quality of movies, but that is not the point. And it was not the point for Lucas to create such a masterpiece that the original trilogy became. It became this because of intrigued individuals who wondered "What the hell is this?" and they fell in love with what Mr. Lucas' idea was.
To think Mr. Lucas owes us anything is preposterous and in my opinion immature. And to trash Mr. Lucas because people may think he let them down is also in my opinion immature. People may disagree with How Mr. Lucas went about HIS story but overwhelming flack he receives for something he developed and issued to this world is incredible and utterly stupid.
He ruined Stars Wars for me, that's a common phrase I've heard many times. Well he didn't ruin it for me because through all the cheesy lines, horrible dialouge, and silly characters that make up Mr. Lucas' galaxy still remains a humble sentiment and enjoyable entertainment. Because Star Wars is nothing more than a cheesy science fiction story created only to entertain, and however way you look at it in it's inherent core Stars Wars is just that, a cheesy science fiction story that entertains us.
It's fun, it's Star Wars, it wasn't created to be criticized for what it is. I think people lose a little bit of reality sometimes and perhaps should take a more apprehensive approach towards science fiction.
I think the biggest problem the New Trilogy had in conflict with the old trilogy is the fact that it had to create new storyline, and I just think sometimes people have a hard time coping with change. And that is the keyword, Change, are you willing to change or are you too stubborn. Life lessons can be learned from star wars and change is one of them. But in its essence Star wars is made to entertain. You may have not been entertained but I do not think Lucas' detracted too much from his original idea of creating a story that people would enjoy.
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lvbuckeye
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umm... first of all, you should check out some of the books, anime, etc... it will help you get over what you percieve to be wrong... there's a pretty damn good thread over on Honda-Tech.com in the General Discussion and Debate forum that could answer many of your questions... such as General Grievous... just before III starts, Mace Windu fought Grievous, and force crushed his chest- hence the cough... the truth is that Obi would have been beaten by Grievous if not for the after-effects of the Windu battle... Jedi are NOT invincible, they are Knights... and Grievous was one bad mother- trained in Jedi arts by Count Dooku...Sloopy45 said:
i like you bro, but you got some serious issues...
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Zurp
I have misplaced my pants.
This reminds me of that Seinfeld episode when the one comedian switched to Judaism so he could tell Jewish jokes.Oricus said:
I agree. Lucas owes me, you, or any one else NOTHING. He spent years of his time, and millions of dollars of his own money to create 6 movies. It just so happens that three were wildly popular, and three were not. So what? Does he go bitch at you for your crappy home movies? Part of me hopes he does.Oricus said:
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Sloopy45
Pimp Minister Sinister
lvbuckeye: "first of all, you should check out some of the books, anime, etc"
I saw the Clone Wars cartoons and the Mace Windu scene you're referring to.
"the truth is that Obi would have been beaten by Grievous if not for the after-effects of the Windu battle"
Why couldn't Obi-Wan just do the same thing and finish the job? Also, if Lucas has all these prequels "in mind," how come Grievious wasn't introduced in Attack of the Clones?
"Jedi are NOT invincible, they are Knights... and Grievous was one bad mother- trained in Jedi arts by Count Dooku..."
It shouldn't matter. Jedi can use the Force, and Grievious can't. 'The Jedi Arts' means more than just using a light saber.
"i like you bro, but you got some serious issues..."
You're taking what I say too seriously. I'm opinionated about the topic, but don't read too much into it.
I saw the Clone Wars cartoons and the Mace Windu scene you're referring to.
"the truth is that Obi would have been beaten by Grievous if not for the after-effects of the Windu battle"
Why couldn't Obi-Wan just do the same thing and finish the job? Also, if Lucas has all these prequels "in mind," how come Grievious wasn't introduced in Attack of the Clones?
"Jedi are NOT invincible, they are Knights... and Grievous was one bad mother- trained in Jedi arts by Count Dooku..."
It shouldn't matter. Jedi can use the Force, and Grievious can't. 'The Jedi Arts' means more than just using a light saber.
"i like you bro, but you got some serious issues..."
You're taking what I say too seriously. I'm opinionated about the topic, but don't read too much into it.
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martinss01
blissfully stupid
i just saw III and all i can say is OMFG!!!! that was laughably bad! at one point i nearly drew blood bitting my lip to keep from laughing. ok, i will consceed that it was MUCH better than the first 2. but only because there were more explosions and a lot less talking. the characters have 0 substance and elicite 0 sympathy. in fact, as people are dropping like flies i found myself just hoping they would hurry the fuck up and die so we could move on to the next explosion. it almost felt like i was in history class looking at a timeline.
to be fair, the movie on its own probably wouldn't have been as horrible if it wasn't for all of the undertones it had working for it. you have love, loss, betrayal, deciet, a gov. overthrown, a war, shifting alliances. for the love of god man! this is like bringing back antwone winfield, ahmed plummer, shawn springs and chris gamble for a farwell game only to play a team like purdue in a super soft zone all flippin game. i have to wonder if lucas is modeling anikan after himself in the development of these movies. by the end of the film i felt like obe wan! "lucas, you had everthing!!!! and you threw it all away!! this was the chosen one!!!"
this movie was straight black and white. as others have noted there was no progression for anikan to become vader. you don't just flip a switch and decide, "today im a bad guy". noone "chooses" to be evil. yet at no point do you ever feel that anikan wants to do the right thing. much to the contrary actually. the common theme throughout the movies has been that good vrs. evil/the truth is largely dependant on your particular point of view. yet the movie makes no attempt what-so-ever to blurr the line for the audience. the sith are portrayed as radically evil and the jedi as near angelic. at no point do you ever feel, "hmm, maybe the sith are just misunderstood". this movie needed to be darker. peolpe should have left the theatre feeling that they had been betrayed by their most loyal and trusted friend. not talking about the "really cool explosions".
the worst part is you chop the scenes up a little bit, edit the dialogue and tweek the story in about 5 places and you have quite possibly the single greatest story ever written. instead you have ken griffey whiffing 3 soft floaters right down the middle. lucas should be killed via papercuts from really really horrible scripts NOT written by him. that is the only fitting end to this tragedy.
not sure how much has been released from III to this point and whether or not its ok to do so in this thread. some people get pissy over such things. so ill keep my mouth shut about my shoulda been changes until its deemed "appropriate".
on the positive side, its worth seeing in the theatre if you want to see it. the special effects are VERY impressive. anikan vrs. kenobi, easily the best fight scene to date.
to be fair, the movie on its own probably wouldn't have been as horrible if it wasn't for all of the undertones it had working for it. you have love, loss, betrayal, deciet, a gov. overthrown, a war, shifting alliances. for the love of god man! this is like bringing back antwone winfield, ahmed plummer, shawn springs and chris gamble for a farwell game only to play a team like purdue in a super soft zone all flippin game. i have to wonder if lucas is modeling anikan after himself in the development of these movies. by the end of the film i felt like obe wan! "lucas, you had everthing!!!! and you threw it all away!! this was the chosen one!!!"
this movie was straight black and white. as others have noted there was no progression for anikan to become vader. you don't just flip a switch and decide, "today im a bad guy". noone "chooses" to be evil. yet at no point do you ever feel that anikan wants to do the right thing. much to the contrary actually. the common theme throughout the movies has been that good vrs. evil/the truth is largely dependant on your particular point of view. yet the movie makes no attempt what-so-ever to blurr the line for the audience. the sith are portrayed as radically evil and the jedi as near angelic. at no point do you ever feel, "hmm, maybe the sith are just misunderstood". this movie needed to be darker. peolpe should have left the theatre feeling that they had been betrayed by their most loyal and trusted friend. not talking about the "really cool explosions".
the worst part is you chop the scenes up a little bit, edit the dialogue and tweek the story in about 5 places and you have quite possibly the single greatest story ever written. instead you have ken griffey whiffing 3 soft floaters right down the middle. lucas should be killed via papercuts from really really horrible scripts NOT written by him. that is the only fitting end to this tragedy.
not sure how much has been released from III to this point and whether or not its ok to do so in this thread. some people get pissy over such things. so ill keep my mouth shut about my shoulda been changes until its deemed "appropriate".
on the positive side, its worth seeing in the theatre if you want to see it. the special effects are VERY impressive. anikan vrs. kenobi, easily the best fight scene to date.
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tibor75
Banned
Man oh man, I just saw this yesterday afternoon and it was indeed stupid. I can't understand stupid fans liking the movie, but I can't imagine a neutral critic thinking this is anything other than crap. As Sloopy45 said, critics just wanted to like it. I remember that Phantom Menace and Clones got fairly respectible reviews when they came out, which is ridiculous, since they are barely better than Flash Gordon. In fact, critics seemed to hate the movies even more later on, when they realized the people hated them too. Yeah, that makes sense.
The whole ghost thing with Yoda and Obi Wan is a joke. His last minute reasoning is illogical and stupid at best. It almost seems like he did a rewrite at the last second after someone told him he forgot to plug that hole in the story and Liam Neeson refused to help out with a quick
cameo. I found it hilarious/pathetic that Padme became upset when Anakin said he had killed Jedi children, but didn't seem to care that he killed the sandpeople children in Episode II. Uh...if Lucas was trying to make her look sympathetic he failed; she looks like a moron. No
wonder the battle droids attacked her planet in Episode I...they knew the planet's queen was a retard.
I actually dislike the whole Anakin/Obi Wan swordfight. Cool effects are one thing, but it really felt like Lucas wanted to insert as many visual effects and wild ideas as he could. Fighting on a piece of debris that is floating on a river of lava? Uh, no...that's just ridiculous. How does Obi Wan hold his own so well? He was beat down by
Count Dooku (twice) who Anakin took care of pretty easily. Plus, the 'dark side' is supposed to make you even more powerful than a regular Jedi and Anakin is supposedly the most powerful ever. Yet somehow Obi
Wan can do better than anyone else? Yeah..right. And why did he change his name to Ben? You'd think Lucas would throw us that bone. If he's beyond the emperor and Vader's senses, why did he change his first name
but not his last? Stupid...
The whole idea of why Anakin fell for the dark side is hysterical. He did it to save Padme. Uh, so he killed innocent children to save her life? Well, I guess he showed homicidal tendancies in the last movie, so this is somewhat plausble. Of course, the fact that Yoda and Padme couldn't see that he was a nut job is fairly convenient... Also, I was hoping for this exchange to take place:
Sidious: "I can save Padme!"
Anakin: "Ok. I will join you. Show me how"
Sidious: "With our combined powers, I am sure we can figure it out"
Anakin: "Hmm..I thought you already knew?"
The opening space battle was sub par too. It was visually cool, but in the end it really did nothing but distract you from the fact that the movie had nothing to offer. The only decent scenes were the Jedi being wasted by the clones. That was pretty cool.
The whole ghost thing with Yoda and Obi Wan is a joke. His last minute reasoning is illogical and stupid at best. It almost seems like he did a rewrite at the last second after someone told him he forgot to plug that hole in the story and Liam Neeson refused to help out with a quick
cameo. I found it hilarious/pathetic that Padme became upset when Anakin said he had killed Jedi children, but didn't seem to care that he killed the sandpeople children in Episode II. Uh...if Lucas was trying to make her look sympathetic he failed; she looks like a moron. No
wonder the battle droids attacked her planet in Episode I...they knew the planet's queen was a retard.
I actually dislike the whole Anakin/Obi Wan swordfight. Cool effects are one thing, but it really felt like Lucas wanted to insert as many visual effects and wild ideas as he could. Fighting on a piece of debris that is floating on a river of lava? Uh, no...that's just ridiculous. How does Obi Wan hold his own so well? He was beat down by
Count Dooku (twice) who Anakin took care of pretty easily. Plus, the 'dark side' is supposed to make you even more powerful than a regular Jedi and Anakin is supposedly the most powerful ever. Yet somehow Obi
Wan can do better than anyone else? Yeah..right. And why did he change his name to Ben? You'd think Lucas would throw us that bone. If he's beyond the emperor and Vader's senses, why did he change his first name
but not his last? Stupid...
The whole idea of why Anakin fell for the dark side is hysterical. He did it to save Padme. Uh, so he killed innocent children to save her life? Well, I guess he showed homicidal tendancies in the last movie, so this is somewhat plausble. Of course, the fact that Yoda and Padme couldn't see that he was a nut job is fairly convenient... Also, I was hoping for this exchange to take place:
Sidious: "I can save Padme!"
Anakin: "Ok. I will join you. Show me how"
Sidious: "With our combined powers, I am sure we can figure it out"
Anakin: "Hmm..I thought you already knew?"
The opening space battle was sub par too. It was visually cool, but in the end it really did nothing but distract you from the fact that the movie had nothing to offer. The only decent scenes were the Jedi being wasted by the clones. That was pretty cool.
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Sloopy45
Pimp Minister Sinister
Tibbs, first off, I think your review was very astute. I think you nailed it right on the head.
"It almost seems like he did a rewrite at the last second after someone told him he forgot to plug that hole in the story and Liam Neeson refused to help out with a quick cameo."
Yep. Speaking of unplugged holes, what is the true story behind the Sifo Dias/Clone mystery?? Hey George, you forgot to tell us this one!! And how come all the Clones look like big dumb guidos on Camino, and in this movie they all look like Jango Fett? How come Obi-Wan/Padme/Yoda are assuming Anakin is alive during Padme's childbirth? As far as they know, he's burned to death at the foot of the river of lava. How is this an Empire if most of the Senate is in support of Palpatine's reign? Stupid, stupid, stupid ..
"Uh...if Lucas was trying to make her look sympathetic he failed; she looks like a moron."
Portman's acting is awful in this movie. She knew it was the end & mailed this one in. Mix that with lines like, "Anakin, you're breaking my heart!" and, "Hold me like you did by the lake on Naboo, Anakin," & you have a bad performance.
BTW, speaking of awful lines that I forgot to bring up, how bout this one?
"You'll always be that little boy I knew on Tattoine, Ani."
"Fighting on a piece of debris that is floating on a river of lava? Uh, no...that's just ridiculous."
I didn't like that either.
"The only decent scenes were the Jedi being wasted by the clones."
I thought the whole 'Order 66' scene was done well. I still can't buy Storm Troopers killing Jedi, but the scene was pretty powerful & sad. I think the best part of the movie was when they go to kill Yoda on Kashykk & he beheads them.
One more thing: Order 66 comes down, and we have an army of Storm Troopers to kill each individual Jedi. But they send TWO (repeat: TWO) to kill the most powerful Jedi??? Makes no frickin' sense.
"It almost seems like he did a rewrite at the last second after someone told him he forgot to plug that hole in the story and Liam Neeson refused to help out with a quick cameo."
Yep. Speaking of unplugged holes, what is the true story behind the Sifo Dias/Clone mystery?? Hey George, you forgot to tell us this one!! And how come all the Clones look like big dumb guidos on Camino, and in this movie they all look like Jango Fett? How come Obi-Wan/Padme/Yoda are assuming Anakin is alive during Padme's childbirth? As far as they know, he's burned to death at the foot of the river of lava. How is this an Empire if most of the Senate is in support of Palpatine's reign? Stupid, stupid, stupid ..
"Uh...if Lucas was trying to make her look sympathetic he failed; she looks like a moron."
Portman's acting is awful in this movie. She knew it was the end & mailed this one in. Mix that with lines like, "Anakin, you're breaking my heart!" and, "Hold me like you did by the lake on Naboo, Anakin," & you have a bad performance.
BTW, speaking of awful lines that I forgot to bring up, how bout this one?
"You'll always be that little boy I knew on Tattoine, Ani."
"Fighting on a piece of debris that is floating on a river of lava? Uh, no...that's just ridiculous."
I didn't like that either.
"The only decent scenes were the Jedi being wasted by the clones."
I thought the whole 'Order 66' scene was done well. I still can't buy Storm Troopers killing Jedi, but the scene was pretty powerful & sad. I think the best part of the movie was when they go to kill Yoda on Kashykk & he beheads them.
One more thing: Order 66 comes down, and we have an army of Storm Troopers to kill each individual Jedi. But they send TWO (repeat: TWO) to kill the most powerful Jedi??? Makes no frickin' sense.
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tibor75
Banned
Ugh...the whole thing with Yoda being pals with Chewbacca...ugh. The ridiculous amount of coincidences of people knowing one another in the trilogy is terrible. I mean, why couldn't Yoda just know some random wookie...heck, it would give you an excuse for another action figure. Just fucking stupid.
I think I already complained about this, but Lucas never explains why Governor Tarkin in Star Wars is able to boss Vader around. Uh, he's the baddest man alive, but an old dude tells him what to do. I figured he'd make a connection in Episode III but he failed there as well.
Also, when Shaft arrested Palpatine weren't those other people next to him, Jedi? But didn't they die pretty quickly for being so-called masters of the force? I guess Palpatine is that powerful then. So powerful his ass was whacked by Shaft. Eh, maybe he lost on purpose so that Annie could save his life.
I think I already complained about this, but Lucas never explains why Governor Tarkin in Star Wars is able to boss Vader around. Uh, he's the baddest man alive, but an old dude tells him what to do. I figured he'd make a connection in Episode III but he failed there as well.
Also, when Shaft arrested Palpatine weren't those other people next to him, Jedi? But didn't they die pretty quickly for being so-called masters of the force? I guess Palpatine is that powerful then. So powerful his ass was whacked by Shaft. Eh, maybe he lost on purpose so that Annie could save his life.
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