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Speed of Big10 vs. other conferences

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Gatorubet;1371141; said:
I'm basically good with what anybody says, since I'll be in Miami in four days, hanging with my buddies, eating a steak with a glass of red wine to chase the double bourbon rocks, and waiting for the BCSCG. :biggrin:

At this point I'm so happy with life that I'm damn near insult proof. :banger:
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Eat Shit......:biggrin:
 
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reagdog;1370988; said:
Shouldn't the strength be decided on how many ranked teams you played - not which conference they are in?
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in a perfect world, yes. but ask yourself, how did those ranked teams get that way in the first place? all of college football is perception. thats one of the reasons why the computer polling is so important. far too many teams are ranked where they are because of what their name is or who their coach is or what their most recent recruiting class looks like or how they finished last year.

ljb's post is probably the best in explaining the speed issue from the hard realities of life perspective. my only comments on the matter is this. your average member of the media is a two bit hack who has performed less than 0 research on any subject let alone the one they spew forth in front of a camera. for the few who actually do care about what they report and are knowledgeable are required to push the agenda of the company they work for.

understand that media outlets are NOT there to provide factual unbiased information. they are there to sell a product. sadly the truth doesn't sell, controversy does. if i as a media outlet can play one group against another i have a story that will sell to both groups. so long as i can keep the two groups fueding... ill have a job.

if the media themselves not understanding football wasn't bad enough, 90% of their customer base, WE the fans, don't even understand the fucking rules of the game!!! so speed has become an easy way of saying team A is better than team B without actually having to explain why. partly because you have no clue how to backup your statement but also because even if you did the majority of your audience wouldn't understand anyway.

speed is speed is speed. the south isn't faster than the north. the north isn't stronger than the south. the elite programs all operate more or less on equal footing. once you look past the sensationalist headline and actually dig into the facts you will start to realize usc isn't the greatest program in the history of god. moving south will not make you a better football player and being born north of the mason dixon doesn't make you any stronger than anyone else.

just sexier.
 
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martinss01;1372597; said:
understand that media outlets are NOT there to provide factual unbiased information. they are there to sell a product. sadly the truth doesn't sell, controversy does. if i as a media outlet can play one group against another i have a story that will sell to both groups. so long as i can keep the two groups fueding... ill have a job.
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That is all of ESPN in a nutshell.
It's Mark May, Lou Holtz, Jim Rome, everyone.
Say absurd things, get responses... people will keep tuning in.

I used to think Herbie was above it, but he's just another troll these days.
 
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Speed of college football in the South has made a move North
By Israel Gutierrez
[email protected]

When did it happen?

When did speed head north? When did athleticism escape Miami and Gainesville and Los Angeles and actually visit places such as Madison, Wis., and Iowa City, Iowa, and Happy Valley?

Did it happen? It sure seems like it.

It wasn't too long ago that it was assumed the Big Ten was slow and plodding. That there wasn't enough speed to go around, and it was normally contained to conferences like the Southeastern or the Pac-10 or the Atlantic Coast. That the only way the slower teams -- most of those coming from the Big Ten or just the north in general -- could compete with the more athletic, faster elite teams would be with tremendous size or masterful coaching.

Just think back to the Florida-Ohio State national championship game in 2007. All you heard after that game is that the team speed of the Gators was too much for the Buckeyes, who couldn't keep up on either side of the ball, especially when Ted Ginn Jr. was injured on the first play of the game.

Or go further back to the dominant University of Miami teams and how any team without world-class speed had no shot of staying in the game with the Hurricanes.

Does that disparity even exist anymore? Or does it just not matter as much anymore?

It sure doesn't seem like it. Not when Iowa can make Georgia Tech look slow and predictable.

Not when UM can get handled by a Wisconsin team that isn't supposed to be anywhere near as fast or athletic. Not when Penn State limits the LSU Tigers to 17 points and their ridiculously fast receivers to 12 lousy catches. Not when Northwestern can take Auburn into overtime, keeping up with one of the country's most potent offenses.
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Speed of college football in the South has made a move North - Israel Gutierrez - MiamiHerald.com
 
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Buckskin86;1636113; said:
Speed of college football in the South has made a move North - Israel Gutierrez - MiamiHerald.com
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[soapbox]Those who can, do. Those who can't make a really bad attempt to write about it.

No offense to any journalists in the crowd, but I still have a real problem with "instant anaylsis" about a game / team from someone who hasn't played that sport anywhere near the level they are opining about.

And the masses continue to drink the kool-aid...[/soapbox]

There, I feel better now.

:bigten2:
 
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Or go further back to the dominant University of Miami teams and how any team without world-class speed had no shot of staying in the game with the Hurricanes.
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I vaguely remember a team taking down TEH BEST TEAM EVA on January 3, 2003 using the same recipe the Big10 teams did in this bowl season...
 
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buckcfd;1636123; said:
[soapbox]Those who can, do. Those who can't make a really bad attempt to write about it.

No offense to any journalists in the crowd, but I still have a real problem with "instant anaylsis" about a game / team from someone who hasn't played that sport anywhere near the level they are opining about.

And the masses continue to drink the kool-aid...[/soapbox]

There, I feel better now.

:bigten2:
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No kidding. Very poorly thought-out article. Consider, for example,the false "either-or":
Either teams like Iowa, Wisconsin and Northwestern have improved their speed to the point that there is no longer a disparity between them and teams such as Miami and Georgia Tech, or the coaches on the supposedly slower teams are simply so much better than the coaches on the other sideline.
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BOOHOOO...

But thanks nonetheless for bumping this thread. What a difference a year makes!
 
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Nothing more needs said than this - consider the source:

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#1 B10 beat #1 Pac10
#2 B10 beat #1 ACC
#3 B10 beat #3 SEC
#4 B10 beat #3 ACC

So, when you win, it must be because you're faster. Let's see...I guess the Big 10 players all of a sudden just got faster.
 
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CalvinistBuck;1636177; said:
#1 B10 beat #1 Pac10
#2 B10 beat #1 ACC
#3 B10 beat #3 SEC
#4 B10 beat #3 ACC

So, when you win, it must be because you're faster. Let's see...I guess the Big 10 players all of a sudden just got faster.
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A fine showing my the Big-10 this year. Congratulations Calvin.
 
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Gatorubet;1636195; said:
A fine showing by the Big-10 this year. Congratulations Calvin.
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And, hats off to the Gators. There did not appear to be a letdown after losing the SEC title game. Or, perhaps there was a letdown and Cincinnati truly sucks. (In your eyes, it's likely that UF is just downright awesome.)

To be sure, I'm jealous of any Ohio school attempting to usurp tOSU's long established claim of supremacy in the state. I suppose schadenfreude described my feeling when UF destroyed Cincy. Rarely have I seen the outcome of a BCS bowl game determined in the first few possessions. I'd also like to think that the outcome of the Sugar Bowl in some way exposes the Big East as pretenders.
 
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